Hrm.... Thunderbird is already starting to peeve me. It wants to reply with the html stuff even after I told it to send text only to this list-domain. Next, it's not filtering fedora-list@redhat.com into it's folder.
This marriage is off to a rocky start and the Honeymoon hasn't even had time to kick in. <g> Ric
Ric Moore skrev:
Hrm.... Thunderbird is already starting to peeve me. It wants to reply with the html stuff even after I told it to send text only to this list-domain. Next, it's not filtering fedora-list@redhat.com into it's folder.
This marriage is off to a rocky start and the Honeymoon hasn't even had time to kick in. <g> Ric
Here's how I have set up the filter for this list; it works here:
For messages where one of the rules apply Rule 1: 'List-Id' contains 'fedora-list.redhat.com' Rule 2: 'To' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com' Move to chosen folder.
The field 'List-Id' can be added using the entry at the bottom of the roll-down list of possible fields to check. (Setup or Configure? Mine is in norwegian)
Hope this helps.
Frode
On Monday 21 May 2007, Frode Petersen wrote:
Ric Moore skrev:
Hrm.... Thunderbird is already starting to peeve me. It wants to reply with the html stuff even after I told it to send text only to this list-domain. Next, it's not filtering fedora-list@redhat.com into it's folder.
This marriage is off to a rocky start and the Honeymoon hasn't even had time to kick in. <g> Ric
Here's how I have set up the filter for this list; it works here:
For messages where one of the rules apply Rule 1: 'List-Id' contains 'fedora-list.redhat.com' Rule 2: 'To' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com' Move to chosen folder.
I'd add Rule 3: 'CC' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com'
The field 'List-Id' can be added using the entry at the bottom of the roll-down list of possible fields to check. (Setup or Configure? Mine is in norwegian)
Anne
Frode Petersen:
Here's how I have set up the filter for this list; it works here:
For messages where one of the rules apply Rule 1: 'List-Id' contains 'fedora-list.redhat.com' Rule 2: 'To' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com' Move to chosen folder.
Anne Wilson:
I'd add Rule 3: 'CC' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com'
I wouldn't filter a list with either of the 2nd or 3rd rules. It makes for mistakes:
If you're on lists with list-id headers, they're redundant, at best.
If you're on both lists that something gets crossposted to, all the mail goes to one folder, instead of one to each appropriate folder.
Private replies including a list address as a recipient get treated as list mail, and that mayn't be appropriate. I've seen quite a few people get their knickers in a twist because someone replied publically to what they sent privately, because the respondent never noticed it.
Likewise for spam. It erroneously ends up in your list mail folder.
On Monday 21 May 2007, Tim wrote:
Frode Petersen:
Here's how I have set up the filter for this list; it works here:
For messages where one of the rules apply Rule 1: 'List-Id' contains 'fedora-list.redhat.com' Rule 2: 'To' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com' Move to chosen folder.
Anne Wilson:
I'd add Rule 3: 'CC' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com'
I wouldn't filter a list with either of the 2nd or 3rd rules. It makes for mistakes:
If you're on lists with list-id headers, they're redundant, at best.
So Rule 1 matches.
If you're on both lists that something gets crossposted to, all the mail goes to one folder, instead of one to each appropriate folder.
True, but I've never found it to be a huge problem.
Private replies including a list address as a recipient get treated as list mail, and that mayn't be appropriate. I've seen quite a few people get their knickers in a twist because someone replied publically to what they sent privately, because the respondent never noticed it.
That one is serious. So what's your solution where List-Id doesn't exist?
Likewise for spam. It erroneously ends up in your list mail folder.
That I've never found.
Anne
Frode Petersen:
For messages where one of the rules apply Rule 1: 'List-Id' contains 'fedora-list.redhat.com' Rule 2: 'To' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com' Move to chosen folder.
Anne Wilson:
I'd add Rule 3: 'CC' contains 'fedora-list@redhat.com'
Tim:
I wouldn't filter a list with either of the 2nd or 3rd rules. It makes for mistakes:
If you're on lists with list-id headers, they're redundant, at best.
Anne Wilson:
So Rule 1 matches.
And is all that's needed, for lists that have them. I'd only set up different rules for other lists (without them).
If you're on both lists that something gets crossposted to, all the mail goes to one folder, instead of one to each appropriate folder.
True, but I've never found it to be a huge problem.
It might be if you're trying to follow a thread. At least, if you're aware of this, you know where to look. But it's a surprise that's easily avoided.
Private replies including a list address as a recipient get treated as list mail, and that mayn't be appropriate. I've seen quite a few people get their knickers in a twist because someone replied publically to what they sent privately, because the respondent never noticed it.
That one is serious. So what's your solution where List-Id doesn't exist?
Most lists seem to have them. For those that don't, I use specific rules using the to or reply-to addresses. I don't use generic recipient rules, because then any match counts (to, cc, etc.), even when they're not really appropriate.
Likewise for spam. It erroneously ends up in your list mail folder.
That I've never found.
You're lucky, then. I've seen spam that's harvested addresses from lists (list addresses and participants addresses).
Ric Moore wrote:
Hrm.... Thunderbird is already starting to peeve me. It wants to reply with the html stuff even after I told it to send text only to this list-domain. Next, it's not filtering fedora-list@redhat.com into it's folder.
This marriage is off to a rocky start and the Honeymoon hasn't even had time to kick in. <g> Ric
Also:
procmail is your friend. Using IMAP from your local host you can easily subscribe to folders in the ~/Mail directory.
Then I use Thunderbird to view with threads sorted by date on these mailboxes. Very nice, really. It also gives me more than one easy way to search messages.
Also, Thunderbird always asks me to send text only to these. It seems to be doing all the right things, for me.
For example, here is my .procmailrc file:
-> cat .procmailrc PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail #you’d better make sure it exists LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/log #recommended
:0: * (^TO|^From|^Subject:.*)fedora-buildsys-list buildsys
:0: * (^TO|^From|^Subject:.*)fedora-list fedora
:0: * (^TO|^From|^Subject:.*)rpm-maint rpm
:0: * (^TO|^From|^Subject:.*)livecd-list kadischi
:0: * (^TO|^From|^Subject:.*)anaconda-devel-list anaconda
:0: * (^TO|^From|^Subject:.*)Postfix SMTP server xmail
On Mon, 21 May 2007 03:01:31 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
Hrm.... Thunderbird is already starting to peeve me. It wants to reply with the html stuff even after I told it to send text only to this list-domain. Next, it's not filtering fedora-list@redhat.com into it's folder.
This marriage is off to a rocky start and the Honeymoon hasn't even had time to kick in. <g> Ric
why use filters? why use e-mail? this is what nntp is for :)
gmane.org
-Thufir
Thufir wrote:
On Mon, 21 May 2007 03:01:31 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
Hrm.... Thunderbird is already starting to peeve me. It wants to reply with the html stuff even after I told it to send text only to this list-domain. Next, it's not filtering fedora-list@redhat.com into it's folder.
This marriage is off to a rocky start and the Honeymoon hasn't even had time to kick in. <g> Ric
why use filters? why use e-mail? this is what nntp is for :)
gmane.org
-Thufir
Because not all of us can access nntp without using some form of web access due to corporate policies. :)
I have no issues with Thunderbird filtering mail into folders.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:05:11 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: [...]
why use filters? why use e-mail? this is what nntp is for :)
gmane.org
[...]
Because not all of us can access nntp without using some form of web access due to corporate policies. :)
I have no issues with Thunderbird filtering mail into folders.
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Oh. sorry to hear that :(
-Thufir