Hi All,
Fedora 34 $ rpm -qa osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc33.x86_64 (prior version) osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64 libnotify-0.7.9-4.fc34.x86_64
As of Fedora 33, when Osmo throws a task popup with libnotify, I am no longer able to run my mouse across (no buttons pressed) my task popups and have them automatically reorganize to the top right, getting them out of the way. (I have a lot of tasks going off and some stay in the middle of my screen.)
I have corresponded with the author of Osmo and he has made no changes as to how he calls libnotify.
Is there some missing libnotify configuration that got overwrote with Fedora 33 that I can fix?
Many thanks, -T
On 11/07/2021 07:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 34 $ rpm -qa osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc33.x86_64 (prior version) osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64 libnotify-0.7.9-4.fc34.x86_64
As of Fedora 33, when Osmo throws a task popup with libnotify, I am no longer able to run my mouse across (no buttons pressed) my task popups and have them automatically reorganize to the top right, getting them out of the way. (I have a lot of tasks going off and some stay in the middle of my screen.)
I have corresponded with the author of Osmo and he has made no changes as to how he calls libnotify.
Is there some missing libnotify configuration that got overwrote with Fedora 33 that I can fix?
I don't use osmo. But, first, are you saying you have 2 versions showing when you do rpm -q?
You're using Xfce, yes?
As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few tasks. They pop up in the upper right of the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
Is something else supposed to happen?
On 7/10/21 4:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 07:04, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 34 $ rpm -qa osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc33.x86_64 (prior version) osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64 libnotify-0.7.9-4.fc34.x86_64
As of Fedora 33, when Osmo throws a task popup with libnotify, I am no longer able to run my mouse across (no buttons pressed) my task popups and have them automatically reorganize to the top right, getting them out of the way. (I have a lot of tasks going off and some stay in the middle of my screen.)
I have corresponded with the author of Osmo and he has made no changes as to how he calls libnotify.
Is there some missing libnotify configuration that got overwrote with Fedora 33 that I can fix?
I don't use osmo. But, first, are you saying you have 2 versions showing when you do rpm -q?
Only one. I only showed the prior version that was running under FC33 for historical purposes
You're using Xfce, yes?
Xfce 4.14 Sorry, forgot that.
As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few tasks. They pop up in the upper right of the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
Is something else supposed to happen?
When you get several of these pop up, for example four, you "remind me later" or "done" the middle two, then mouse over the bottom one and it should rearrange to just under the first one.
I can't live without Osmo. You should play with it a bit and see if you like it.
On 11/07/2021 08:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
You're using Xfce, yes?
Xfce 4.14 Sorry, forgot that.
As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few tasks. They pop up in the upper right of the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
Is something else supposed to happen?
When you get several of these pop up, for example four, you "remind me later" or "done" the middle two, then mouse over the bottom one and it should rearrange to just under the first one.
I can't live without Osmo. You should play with it a bit and see if you like it.
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
I'm quite happy with T-Bird's calendar and the ability to sync multiple google-calendars. It allows me to see my wife's (a non-linux user) calendar on my desktop as well as my mobile devices. So, I won't be using osmo.
On 7/10/21 5:40 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 08:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
You're using Xfce, yes?
Xfce 4.14 Sorry, forgot that.
As I said, I don't use it, but did install on a VM and added a few tasks. They pop up in the upper right of the screen with a few buttons. Like Done, Remind Me Later.
Is something else supposed to happen?
When you get several of these pop up, for example four, you "remind me later" or "done" the middle two, then mouse over the bottom one and it should rearrange to just under the first one.
I can't live without Osmo. You should play with it a bit and see if you like it.
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
On 7/10/21 9:51 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I just posted:
libnotify stoped rearranging popups https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981068
On 11/07/2021 13:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just posted:
libnotify stoped rearranging popups https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1981068
See my other message.
I think you jumped the gun.
Since libnotify interfaces with the desktop's notify daemon I would look more towards xfce4-notifyd.
And, as I said, F32Xfce didn't work any different/better than F34Xfce. Both are running lightdm if that matters at all. So, why it was working for you previously is unknown to me.
On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
So....
[egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
[egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the task bar.
However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom to top was:
F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above to drop down to take the vacated item.
Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and fully updated it.
F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
On 7/11/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in > the upper right, one below the other. > Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to > leave the screen. The other items did > not move to take up the empty space. Should they?
No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
So....
[egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
[egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the task bar.
However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom to top was:
F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above to drop down to take the vacated item.
Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and fully updated it.
F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
I installed Fedora Workstation in a VM (gnome?). All the Osmo popups pop on top of each other and disappear if you mouse over them
Did you use KDE?
On 12/07/2021 07:13, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/11/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in the upper right, one below the other. >> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to leave the screen. The other items did >> not move to take up the empty space. Should they? > > No. Not until you mouse over them
I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in chronological order on the right side of the display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused over the remaining tasks. Nothing was reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain.
I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining tasks but can't see how it would be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
So....
[egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
[egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the task bar.
However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom to top was:
F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above to drop down to take the vacated item.
Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and fully updated it.
F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
I installed Fedora Workstation in a VM (gnome?). All the Osmo popups pop on top of each other and disappear if you mouse over them
Did you use KDE?
As written above, I did test on F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
I tried osmo just now on an F34 Workstation (GNOME xorg) and it acts as you noted. Not very well integrated with GNOME.
I'm even more happy with T-Bird and google calendar after these experiments.
On 7/11/21 5:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 12/07/2021 07:13, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/11/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 9:12 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/07/2021 12:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 7/10/21 8:25 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 11/07/2021 10:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >> >>> I just scheduled 5 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up >>> in the upper right, one below the other. >>> Clicking on one of the options in an item caused that item to >>> leave the screen. The other items did >>> not move to take up the empty space. Should they? >> >> No. Not until you mouse over them > > I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart. They all lined up in > chronological order on the right side of the > display. I clicked "Done" in the 3rd and 5th tasks. I moused > over the remaining tasks. Nothing was > reordered. The blank space for 3 and 5 remain. > > I have no idea what would be responsible for moving the remaining > tasks but can't see how it would > be libnotify's responsibility.
Not "responsibility", feature.
I do not understand that comment.
Are you saying things worked differently in a fully update F33 system?
I am saying I would like the mouse over and rearrange feature present in FC32 restored in FC34
I see. Well, I don't have an F32 xfce VM. But I do have F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
So....
[egreshko@f32k ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc32.x86_64
[egreshko@f34k2 ~]$ rpm -q osmo osmo-0.4.2-2.fc34.x86_64
On both systems I scheduled 6 tasks, one minute apart.
On both systems the notifications started on the bottom right above the task bar.
However, after all 6 notifications appeared the arrangement from bottom to top was:
F32 - 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 F34 - 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
But, in both cases, clicking "Done" in the box causes the entries above to drop down to take the vacated item.
Figured, what the heck, installed a F32 XFCE VM from the live image and fully updated it.
F32 XFCE didn't rearrange the notifications either. Just like F34 XFCE didn't. So, I don't know how you had it "working".
I installed Fedora Workstation in a VM (gnome?). All the Osmo popups pop on top of each other and disappear if you mouse over them
Did you use KDE?
As written above, I did test on F32 KDE and F34 KDE vm's.
I tried osmo just now on an F34 Workstation (GNOME xorg) and it acts as you noted. Not very well integrated with GNOME.
I'm even more happy with T-Bird and google calendar after these experiments.
I am about to create a KDE VM and test Osmo
Never did get along with Thunderbird calendar. Just don't like it.
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