up2date header files

[Mark Weaver]

I'm curious about something... are the up2date package header files that 
are stored in /var/spool/up2date needed for anything, or can I clear 
them out to conserve space on my hard drive?

thanks,

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Do, den 31.03.2005 schrieb Mark Weaver um 13:18:
> I'm curious about something... are the up2date package header files that 
> are stored in /var/spool/up2date needed for anything, or can I clear 
> them out to conserve space on my hard drive?
> Mark

Sure the header files are needed. Else they won't be stored. They are
necessary for letting up2date know about package availability and
dependencies.

Alexander

[Mark Weaver]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Do, den 31.03.2005 schrieb Mark Weaver um 13:18:
> > I'm curious about something... are the up2date package header files that 
> > are stored in /var/spool/up2date needed for anything, or can I clear 
> > them out to conserve space on my hard drive?
> > Mark
>
> Sure the header files are needed. Else they won't be stored. They are
> necessary for letting up2date know about package availability and
> dependencies.
>
> Alexander

I thought that might be the case but wanted to check and be sure. Thank 
you Alexander.

[Jim Cornette]

Mark Weaver wrote:
> I'm curious about something... are the up2date package header files that 
> are stored in /var/spool/up2date needed for anything, or can I clear 
> them out to conserve space on my hard drive?
>
> thanks,

I clean out the files periodically. It doesn't seem to mess things up 
for me. I believe headers for avalable programs that are not yet 
installed will be the bulk of headers that will reappear with time. The 
rpms are removed by the default setting.

Jim

[Alexander Dalloz]

Am Fr, den 01.04.2005 schrieb Jim Cornette um 0:55:
> I clean out the files periodically. It doesn't seem to mess things up 
> for me. I believe headers for avalable programs that are not yet 
> installed will be the bulk of headers that will reappear with time. The 
> rpms are removed by the default setting.
>
> Jim

Yes,  the header files are refetched once you run up2date the next time.
But that can take some time and I remember many users complaining about
that fact how up2date behaves.

Alexander

[Jim Cornette]

Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> Am Fr, den 01.04.2005 schrieb Jim Cornette um 0:55:
> > I clean out the files periodically. It doesn't seem to mess things up 
> > for me. I believe headers for avalable programs that are not yet 
> > installed will be the bulk of headers that will reappear with time. The 
> > rpms are removed by the default setting.
> >
> > Jim
>
> Yes,  the header files are refetched once you run up2date the next time.
> But that can take some time and I remember many users complaining about
> that fact how up2date behaves.
>
> Alexander

Out of curiousity I checked how many header files are in 
/var/spool/up2date and found that there are only 9 remaining headers 
within the directory. I assume that rpms installed already are not 
fetched since they are within the rpm database already.
It looks like up2date probably should remove headers from preceeding 
versions of packages already installed onto the system. I haven't 
checked out the sourcecode but have noticed that there is a lot of 
redundant older headers in this directory from earlier installs. 
Sometimes there are several stepped down versions for the same package 
within the directory. This is the reason that I periodically clean out 
the cache. Sometimes there gets to accumulate so many headers within 
this directory that rm -rf within this directory won't delete all of the 
headers within this directory.

I guess up2date ought to clean out the headers periodically to save disk 
space on its own.

Jim

[Kam Leo]

On Mar 31, 2005 6:22 PM, Jim Cornette  wrote:
> Alexander Dalloz wrote:
> > Am Fr, den 01.04.2005 schrieb Jim Cornette um 0:55:
> > > I clean out the files periodically. It doesn't seem to mess things up
> > > for me. I believe headers for avalable programs that are not yet
> > > installed will be the bulk of headers that will reappear with time. The
> > > rpms are removed by the default setting.
> > >
> > > Jim
> >
> > Yes,  the header files are refetched once you run up2date the next time.
> > But that can take some time and I remember many users complaining about
> > that fact how up2date behaves.
> >
> > Alexander
>
> Out of curiousity I checked how many header files are in
> /var/spool/up2date and found that there are only 9 remaining headers
> within the directory. I assume that rpms installed already are not
> fetched since they are within the rpm database already.
> It looks like up2date probably should remove headers from preceeding
> versions of packages already installed onto the system. I haven't
> checked out the sourcecode but have noticed that there is a lot of
> redundant older headers in this directory from earlier installs.
> Sometimes there are several stepped down versions for the same package
> within the directory. This is the reason that I periodically clean out
> the cache. Sometimes there gets to accumulate so many headers within
> this directory that rm -rf within this directory won't delete all of the
> headers within this directory.
>
> I guess up2date ought to clean out the headers periodically to save disk
> space on its own.
>
> Jim

You are right.  Up2date should have a auto clean up setting like yum. 
I regularly delete the rpm files and from time to time clean out the
header files. Today I checked and found 25 MB of header files.  Time
to clean that up too.