evolution paper size

[Craig White]

Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups print
server for the network.

Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
I can tell.

It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
Letter.

Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2

TIA

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[P Jones]

Craig;

On 7/31/07, Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; wrote:
>  Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups
> print
>  server for the network.
>
>  Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
>  I can tell.
>
>  It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
>  the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
>  Letter.
>
>  Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
>  have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
>  at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240001

-dtech

>  TIA
>
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[Craig White]

On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 20:35 -0400, P Jones wrote:
>  Craig;
>  
>  On 7/31/07, Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups print
>  > server for the network.
>  >
>  > Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
>  > I can tell.
>  >
>  > It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
>  > the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
>  > Letter.
>  >
>  > Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
>  > have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
>  > at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2
>  
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240001
>   
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damn - I was searching bugzilla for fedora not devel - I promise I
searched it before I posted to list

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[Aaron Konstam]

On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 16:11 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups
> print
>  server for the network.
>  
>  Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
>  I can tell.
>  
>  It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
>  the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
>  Letter.
>  
>  Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
>  have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
>  at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2
>   
I have noticed somewhat the same thing. I would think this could be
changed by the lpoptions command. 
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[Craig White]

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 08:11 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>  On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 16:11 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  > Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups print
>  > server for the network.
>  > 
>  > Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
>  > I can tell.
>  > 
>  > It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
>  > the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
>  > Letter.
>  > 
>  > Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
>  > have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
>  > at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2
>  > 
>  I have noticed somewhat the same thing. I would think this could be
>  changed by the lpoptions command.  
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No suggestion in the bugzilla reference from deerfieldtech that
lpoptions would alter this behavior - and no efforts on my part
disproved that. It's obvious that this was a hard coded problem upstream
and apparently that have put out a fix which hopefully is adopted soon
on Fedora 7.

I am rather surprised by the lack of discussion on this here...which
suggests some or many of the following:
- few people using US sized paper are using Evolution
- few people using GNOME on Fedora 7 (KDE no longer defaults to
  using Evolution)
- few people print from Evolution
- few people using Fedora 7

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[Torsten Eberhardt]

Craig,

>  I am rather surprised by the lack of discussion on this here...which
>  suggests some or many of the following:
>  - few people using US sized paper are using Evolution
>  - few people using GNOME on Fedora 7 (KDE no longer defaults to
>    using Evolution)
>  - few people print from Evolution 
this will be the main reason, why should i put an email on a piece of
paper ? I've never printed from Evolution before this thread ;-)


Torsten

[Craig White]

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 18:28 +0200, Torsten Eberhardt wrote:
>  Craig,
>  
>  > I am rather surprised by the lack of discussion on this here...which
>  > suggests some or many of the following:
>  > - few people using US sized paper are using Evolution
>  > - few people using GNOME on Fedora 7 (KDE no longer defaults to
>  >   using Evolution)
>  > - few people print from Evolution
>  
>  this will be the main reason, why should i put an email on a piece of
>  paper ? I've never printed from Evolution before this thread ;-) 
----
Well, you can print but in our office, the job waits for you to put in
A4 sheet but you can tell it to go ahead and print and it will suck
through a legal sheet.

While I don't print e-mail all that often, and if pressed, I suppose I
could copy/paste into a text program but consider...

- evolution is a PIM and you amass calendar, task lists, notes as
  well as e-mails.

- it reflects rather poorly as I have successfully gotten this non-
  profit corp. to eschew Macs and Windows systems in favor of Dell
  Optiplex systems with kickstart installed Fedora 7 only to stumble
  into this problem. Thankfully, I have configured for each user,
  Thunderbird, Kmail, Korgainizer, KaddressBook as well as Evolution.

I was trying to express my surprise by how few people have sounded off
on this issue. It's a problem - but of course, only if you print from
Evolution.

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[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:21 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 08:11 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>  > On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 16:11 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  > > Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups print
>  > > server for the network.
>  > > 
>  > > Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
>  > > I can tell.
>  > > 
>  > > It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
>  > > the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
>  > > Letter.
>  > > 
>  > > Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
>  > > have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
>  > > at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2
>  > > 
>  > I have noticed somewhat the same thing. I would think this could be
>  > changed by the lpoptions command. 
>  ----
>  No suggestion in the bugzilla reference from deerfieldtech that
>  lpoptions would alter this behavior - and no efforts on my part
>  disproved that. It's obvious that this was a hard coded problem upstream
>  and apparently that have put out a fix which hopefully is adopted soon
>  on Fedora 7.
>  
>  I am rather surprised by the lack of discussion on this here...which
>  suggests some or many of the following:
>  - few people using US sized paper are using Evolution
>  - few people using GNOME on Fedora 7 (KDE no longer defaults to
>    using Evolution)
>  - few people print from Evolution
>  - few people using Fedora 7 
Well I noticed this a while ago. I like you tried to
find an option in
evolution to change the A4 printing. I did not find it. As soon as I
made the lpoptions suggestion I realized that htis was not the answer
since lpoptions -l said the Pagesize was Letter.

Unfortunately I assumed that it was my stupidity nor a evolution
problem. I was obviously wrong.



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[Julius Smith]

In FC6, I can go to
System / Administration / Printing
select (in the Printer configuration window that came up)
Local Printers / printer
select the "Printer Options" tab, and set the Page Size to Letter there.

Does this not work in FC7?

Julius

On 7/31/07, Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; wrote:
>  Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a cups print
>  server for the network.
>
>  Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print - as far as
>  I can tell.
>
>  It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is somewhere in
>  the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it to US
>  Letter.
>
>  Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple thing but I
>  have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out how to get
>  at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2
>
>  TIA
>
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[Craig White]

Hi

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 -0700, Julius Smith wrote:
>  In FC6, I can go to 
>  System / Administration / Printing
>  select (in the Printer configuration window that came up)
>  Local Printers / printer
>  select the "Printer Options" tab, and set the Page Size to Letter
>  there. 
>  
>  Does this not work in FC7?
>  
>  Julius
>  
>  On 7/31/07, Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; wrote:
>          Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a
>          cups print
>          server for the network. 
>          
>          Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print -
>          as far as
>          I can tell.
>          
>          It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is
>          somewhere in
>          the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it
>          to US 
>          Letter.
>          
>          Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple
>          thing but I
>          have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out
>          how to get
>          at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2 
>          
>          TIA 
----
No - read the bugzilla...it can't be fixed without updating both
evolution and gtkprint

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240001

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[Craig White]

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:45 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  Hi
>  
>  On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 -0700, Julius Smith wrote:
>  > In FC6, I can go to 
>  > System / Administration / Printing
>  > select (in the Printer configuration window that came up)
>  > Local Printers / printer
>  > select the "Printer Options" tab, and set the Page Size to Letter
>  > there. 
>  > 
>  > Does this not work in FC7?
>  > 
>  > Julius
>  > 
>  > On 7/31/07, Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; wrote:
>  >         Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a
>  >         cups print
>  >         server for the network. 
>  >         
>  >         Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print -
>  >         as far as
>  >         I can tell.
>  >         
>  >         It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is
>  >         somewhere in
>  >         the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it
>  >         to US 
>  >         Letter.
>  >         
>  >         Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple
>  >         thing but I
>  >         have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out
>  >         how to get
>  >         at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2 
>  >         
>  >         TIA
>  ----
>  No - read the bugzilla...it can't be fixed without updating both
>  evolution and gtkprint
>  
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240001 
----
FYI

For all who use Fedora 7 and Evolution, take note of the last entry in
bugzilla...printing issues discussed will not be fixed until Fedora 8 

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Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt;

[Caitlyn O'Hanna]

On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 11:46 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:45 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  > Hi
>  > 
>  > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 -0700, Julius Smith wrote:
>  > > In FC6, I can go to 
>  > > System / Administration / Printing
>  > > select (in the Printer configuration window that came up)
>  > > Local Printers / printer
>  > > select the "Printer Options" tab, and set the Page Size to Letter
>  > > there. 
>  > > 
>  > > Does this not work in FC7?
>  > > 
>  > > Julius
>  > > 
>  > > On 7/31/07, Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; wrote:
>  > >         Have an issue with newly installed F7 and evolution with a
>  > >         cups print
>  > >         server for the network. 
>  > >         
>  > >         Nowhere in evolution can you choose page size when you print -
>  > >         as far as
>  > >         I can tell.
>  > >         
>  > >         It appears the default page size is A4 and that setting is
>  > >         somewhere in
>  > >         the bowels of GNOME and I cannot figure out how to switch it
>  > >         to US 
>  > >         Letter.
>  > >         
>  > >         Anyone want to toss me a bone...it would seem to be a simple
>  > >         thing but I
>  > >         have 30 minutes chasing my tail around and I can't figure out
>  > >         how to get
>  > >         at something like this - even with the most crude gconftool-2 
>  > >         
>  > >         TIA
>  > ----
>  > No - read the bugzilla...it can't be fixed without updating both
>  > evolution and gtkprint
>  > 
>  > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=240001
>  ----
>  FYI
>  
>  For all who use Fedora 7 and Evolution, take note of the last entry in
>  bugzilla...printing issues discussed will not be fixed until Fedora 8 
>  
>  -- 
>  Craig White <craig(a)tobyhouse.com&gt; 

If one needs to print emails from Evolution, try printing to PDF (I used
cups-pdf-2.4.6-1.fc7) then print the PDF as normal.  Printing the PDF
seems to override that it is in A4 size.

--Tim

[Aaron Konstam]

On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 09:34 -0700, Julius Smith wrote:
>  In FC6, I can go to 
>  System / Administration / Printing
>  select (in the Printer configuration window that came up)
>  Local Printers / printer
>  select the "Printer Options" tab, and set the Page Size to Letter
>  there. 
>  
>  Does this not work in FC7?
>  
>  Julius 
No, that does the same thing that lpoptions command. Evolution ignores
this but why I don't know.
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