Debian snuggles up to Fedora?

[Andy Green]

http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1067056799.html

Ian Murdock, the founder of the Debian GNU/Linux project ... made two very 
important announcements: the porting of Red Hat's Anaconda installer tool to 
Debian, and a modification of Debian's APT package tool which will allow it 
to use both RedHat and Debian packages.

-Andy

[Doncho N. Gunchev]

On Saturday 25 October 2003 13:06, Andy Green wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1067056799.html
>
> Ian Murdock, the founder of the Debian GNU/Linux project ... made two very
> important announcements: the porting of Red Hat's Anaconda installer tool
> to Debian, and a modification of Debian's APT package tool which will allow
> it to use both RedHat and Debian packages.
>
> -Andy
>
> --
> fedora-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Nice ;) maybe rpm should be modified to to allow us use debian packages :) ?
<no_flames_please>
btw: does rpm stil hang with large rpm -Uhv / -ihv and do we have still to 
killall -9 rpm; rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb; ... ? AFIK rpm in 
rh8 was not able to relocate packages at all and hangs sometimes, in rh9 just 
hangs...
</no_flames_please>

[Michael Schwendt]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:47:39 +0200, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
> AFIK rpm in rh8 was not able to relocate packages at all and

Whether a package is relocatable depends on whether it was made
relocatable. Many packages from independent packagers are flagged
reloctable, but are not really relocatable actually. Often they access
files via hardcoded non-relocated paths or depend on files in
non-relocated locations.

--

[Doncho N. Gunchev]

On Tuesday 28 October 2003 09:05, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:47:39 +0200, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
> > AFIK rpm in rh8 was not able to relocate packages at all and
>
> Whether a package is relocatable depends on whether it was made
> relocatable. Many packages from independent packagers are flagged
> reloctable, but are not really relocatable actually. Often they access
> files via hardcoded non-relocated paths or depend on files in
> non-relocated locations.

I mean with relocatable packages - check kylix rpms and release notes if you 
don't belive me ;) I 'installed' it and it 'relocated' all files to my '/' 
dir :) This was fixed in rh9.

[Chris]

On Monday 27 October 2003 10:47 pm, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
> btw: does rpm stil hang with large rpm -Uhv / -ihv and do we have still to
> killall -9 rpm; rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb; ... ?

rpm died on me yesterday and I had to go through this procedure, I am using 
rpm version rpm-4.2.1-0.30.  So yes, rpm is still broken.  I should not that 
this occured after trying to install hwdata with up2date, and up2date 
segfaulted, which in turn caused rpm to crap out.  So, rpm definately has 
some problems, it certainly does not clean itself up properly when 
interrupted.

[Chris Spencer]

You know something that stands out as clearly incorrect about this
article is "Progeny may have provided the catalyst needed to create a
distribution of unprecedented quality; it is now up to open source
software developers to follow through."

Give credit where credit is due.  Red Hat created the catalyst by
releasing anaconda and creating Fedora.

Progeny/Debian are just recognizing that anaconda is an excellent
installer and that they have sorely needed this with there distribution
for some time.

-chris

On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 05:06, Andy Green wrote:
> http://arstechnica.com/archive/news/1067056799.html
>
> Ian Murdock, the founder of the Debian GNU/Linux project ... made two very 
> important announcements: the porting of Red Hat's Anaconda installer tool to 
> Debian, and a modification of Debian's APT package tool which will allow it 
> to use both RedHat and Debian packages.
>
> -Andy
>
> --
> fedora-list mailing list
> [e-mail]
> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

"Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing
the freeness of speech." - Benjamin Franklin

[Milan Kerslager]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 08:47:39AM +0200, Doncho N. Gunchev wrote:
> Nice ;) maybe rpm should be modified to to allow us use debian packages :) ?
>
> <no_flames_please>
> btw: does rpm stil hang with large rpm -Uhv / -ihv and do we have still to 
> killall -9 rpm; rm -rf /var/lib/rpm/__db*; rpm --rebuilddb; ... ? AFIK rpm in 
> rh8 was not able to relocate packages at all and hangs sometimes, in rh9 just 
> hangs...
> </no_flames_please>

There will be only security fixes for RH 9 and 8.0.

You have to download latest stable package from ftp.rpm.org.

There is no reason to do --rebuilddb, as database is not damaged. The
problem is in futexes.