you shouldn't need a new sound card, but who knows, this is what happend to me and my nVidia board no doubt, I installed drivers, and suddenly fedora tells me it doesn't support my onboard sound. Lucky for me I had an extra old sound blaster lying around, and I used it, but I dont think this is a normal thing, just like what you were saying I think it has a lot to do with nVidia, and there drivers.
From: Clint Harshaw clint@penguinsolutions.org Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases fedora-list@redhat.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: OT: Want to Build PC for Fedora Use - Hardware Questions Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:36:22 -0400
Hi all:
I'm wanting to try to build my own computer for home/office use with Fedora. I would like some help picking out some of the components to ensure that I'll have a good experience with the build and that all the things I typically use the computer for will work with a minimum of fuss. Here's a list of the things I use the computer for on a day-to-day basis:
mozilla browswer/mail and mail, gaim, xmms, kaffeine, emacs, latex, xdvi, xpdf, grip, ogg files, gimp, basic perl scripts, mysql/php/phpmyadmin, apache
I tend to like the fancier screensavers, like Ant Spotlight, just because they look cool to me ;-) and enjoy an occasional game of Tux Racer and Neverball. I'd like to be able to play DVD movies on this new machine.
So I've been poking around newegg looking for what would make a good project for me to build and here's what I have come up with:
ANTEC Life Style Series Black Case With 380W Power Supply, Model "SONATA"
ASUS "P4P800-E Deluxe" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU
ASUS nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "V9520/TD"
Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology
Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200
Mitsumi Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model D359M3D/D359M3B
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD800JD
Logitech Black Internet Keyboard PS/2 104keys
Logitech SBF69 Optical Wheel Mouse PS/2
TEAC 52X32X52 Internal EIDE CD-RW Combo Drive Black Bezel, Model DW-552G BLK
I'd like some ideas about if this looks like a decent system, and if there are some changes that I ought to make to save some headaches and/or money. I have a couple of pre-built boxes that have nvidia cards in them, so I have gotten accustomed to the driver issues, but would really prefer something that was more in line with open source, so I could simply upgrade a kernel without the additional nvidia driver work.
Do I even need a sound card, since the board comes with onboard audio?
I sure would appreciate your opinions or suggestions. I'm horribly out-of-place when it comes to hardware and really need some help getting over this hurdle. Over the years, I have done individual component changes on machines that go down, but I've not ever picked out pieces from scratch.
Thanks, Clint
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Jonathan S wrote:
you shouldn't need a new sound card, but who knows, this is what happend to me and my nVidia board no doubt, I installed drivers, and suddenly fedora tells me it doesn't support my onboard sound. Lucky for me I had an extra old sound blaster lying around, and I used it, but I dont think this is a normal thing, just like what you were saying I think it has a lot to do with nVidia, and there drivers.
From: Clint Harshaw clint@penguinsolutions.org Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases fedora-list@redhat.com To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: OT: Want to Build PC for Fedora Use - Hardware Questions Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 13:36:22 -0400
Hi all:
I'm wanting to try to build my own computer for home/office use with Fedora. I would like some help picking out some of the components to ensure that I'll have a good experience with the build and that all the things I typically use the computer for will work with a minimum of fuss. Here's a list of the things I use the computer for on a day-to-day basis:
mozilla browswer/mail and mail, gaim, xmms, kaffeine, emacs, latex, xdvi, xpdf, grip, ogg files, gimp, basic perl scripts, mysql/php/phpmyadmin, apache
I tend to like the fancier screensavers, like Ant Spotlight, just because they look cool to me ;-) and enjoy an occasional game of Tux Racer and Neverball. I'd like to be able to play DVD movies on this new machine.
So I've been poking around newegg looking for what would make a good project for me to build and here's what I have come up with:
ANTEC Life Style Series Black Case With 380W Power Supply, Model "SONATA"
ASUS "P4P800-E Deluxe" i865PE Chipset Motherboard for Intel Socket 478 CPU
ASUS nVIDIA GeForce FX5200 Video Card, 128MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "V9520/TD"
Intel Pentium 4/ 2.8E GHz 800MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache, Hyper Threading Technology
Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200
Mitsumi Black 1.44MB 3.5inch Floppy Disk Drive, Model D359M3D/D359M3B
Western Digital 80GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD800JD
Logitech Black Internet Keyboard PS/2 104keys
Logitech SBF69 Optical Wheel Mouse PS/2
TEAC 52X32X52 Internal EIDE CD-RW Combo Drive Black Bezel, Model DW-552G BLK
I'd like some ideas about if this looks like a decent system, and if there are some changes that I ought to make to save some headaches and/or money. I have a couple of pre-built boxes that have nvidia cards in them, so I have gotten accustomed to the driver issues, but would really prefer something that was more in line with open source, so I could simply upgrade a kernel without the additional nvidia driver work.
Do I even need a sound card, since the board comes with onboard audio?
I sure would appreciate your opinions or suggestions. I'm horribly out-of-place when it comes to hardware and really need some help getting over this hurdle. Over the years, I have done individual component changes on machines that go down, but I've not ever picked out pieces from scratch.
Thanks, Clint
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check out www. frozencpu.com for some real cool looking cases check out http://www.jncs.com/ hardware check ati for compatibility for a video card instead of "nvidia" http://www.ati.com/support/driver.html
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:43:43PM -0500, Jonathan S wrote:
you shouldn't need a new sound card, but who knows, this is what happend to me and my nVidia board no doubt, I installed drivers, and suddenly fedora tells me it doesn't support my onboard sound.
Sound and modem cards can be a pain. Many do not have open source drivers. I have a nifty Turtle Beach card and only one channel is usefull on Linux. They are unwilling to expose how their DSP works. Many modem cards are sounds cards with DSP code in them that may be copyright.
There is a hardware matrix out there.
I am sick of waiting for both MySQL and Redhat to pull their heads out of their a*ses, and I was about 1 inch away from going with a straight PostgreSQL install (which I may just do anyway...but I have too many corporate clients using MySQL at the moment), so I decided to build MySQL 4.0.20, PHP 4.3.6.5, and all the other needed modules I had to uninstall when ripping out MySQL 3.2.x using the instructions found at:
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/tony_smith/mysql/ (I updated the SPEC file to point to 4.0.20 instead of 4.0.17)
I have done this on a fresh Redhat Fedora Core 2 installation with all current updates as of today using up2date.
Where can I go to post these RPM's for other people to download? Should I send an email to different repositories?
I am sick of waiting for both MySQL and Redhat to pull their heads out of their a*ses, and I was about 1 inch away from going with a straight PostgreSQL install (which I may just do anyway...but I have too many corporate clients using MySQL at the moment), so I decided to build MySQL 4.0.20, PHP 4.3.6.5, and all the other needed modules I had to uninstall when ripping out MySQL 3.2.x using the instructions found at:
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/tony_smith/mysql/ (I updated the SPEC file to point to 4.0.20 instead of 4.0.17)
I have done this on a fresh Redhat Fedora Core 2 installation with all current updates as of today using up2date.
Where can I go to post these RPM's for other people to download? Should I send an email to different repositories?
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I have MySQL Ver 4.0.17 installed on my server. I did it under this instruction http://fedoranews.org/contributors/tony_smith/mysql/ How I can upgrade now to 4.0.20? With your file it is possible?
It is very, very simple:
1) Download the MySQL 4.0.20 SRC RPM from MySQL's website 2) Download the mysql.init, my.cnf-def, and spec files exactly as outlined at http://fedoranews.org/contributors/tony_smith/mysql/ 3) Open the spec file in your favorite text editor 4) Change "%define mysql_version 4.0.17" to "%define mysql_version 4.0.20" (Line #1) 5) Change "Version: 4.0.17" to "Version: 4.0.20" (Line #15)
The rest is history. Enjoy.
-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com]On Behalf Of batva73 Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:44 AM To: fedora-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: MySQL 4 and Related Programs
I am sick of waiting for both MySQL and Redhat to pull their heads out of their a*ses, and I was about 1 inch away from going with a straight PostgreSQL install (which I may just do anyway...but I have too many corporate clients using MySQL at the moment), so I decided to build MySQL 4.0.20, PHP 4.3.6.5, and all the other needed modules I had to uninstall when ripping out MySQL 3.2.x using the instructions found at:
http://fedoranews.org/contributors/tony_smith/mysql/ (I updated the SPEC file to point to 4.0.20 instead of 4.0.17)
I have done this on a fresh Redhat Fedora Core 2 installation with all current updates as of today using up2date.
Where can I go to post these RPM's for other people to download? Should I send an email to different repositories?
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I have MySQL Ver 4.0.17 installed on my server. I did it under this instruction http://fedoranews.org/contributors/tony_smith/mysql/ How I can upgrade now to 4.0.20? With your file it is possible?
--On Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:55 AM -0500 "Ryan R. La Mothe" ryanrlamothe@yahoo.com wrote:
- Change "%define mysql_version 4.0.17" to "%define mysql_version
4.0.20" (Line #1) 5) Change "Version: 4.0.17" to "Version: 4.0.20" (Line #15)
Save yourself work in the future. Change the 2nd line to:
Version: %{mysql_version}
Then you only have to change the macro definition in the future.
Sorry, what is the problem if i install rpm directly? On mysql.com i see rpm packages.
Kenneth Porter ha scritto:
--On Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:55 AM -0500 "Ryan R. La Mothe" ryanrlamothe@yahoo.com wrote:
- Change "%define mysql_version 4.0.17" to "%define mysql_version
4.0.20" (Line #1) 5) Change "Version: 4.0.17" to "Version: 4.0.20" (Line #15)
Save yourself work in the future. Change the 2nd line to:
Version: %{mysql_version}
Then you only have to change the macro definition in the future.
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 00:44, Nifty Hat Mitch wrote:
On Thu, Jul 01, 2004 at 12:43:43PM -0500, Jonathan S wrote:
you shouldn't need a new sound card, but who knows, this is what happend to me and my nVidia board no doubt, I installed drivers, and suddenly fedora tells me it doesn't support my onboard sound.
Sound and modem cards can be a pain. Many do not have open source drivers. I have a nifty Turtle Beach card and only one channel is usefull on Linux. They are unwilling to expose how their DSP works. Many modem cards are sounds cards with DSP code in them that may be copyright.
There is a hardware matrix out there.
Jonathan, You may have been bitten by the thing that gets some people with on-board devices vs adapters. They do not necessarily use the same bios or drivers even if the system reports the devices as identical. A good example of this is what adaptec tells users about their scsi adapters. They explicitly release code for the bios on the adapter, but the *WARN* users to *NOT* use that code on cards that are made using the adaptec chips, but manufactured by someone else. It can break the card if not made by adaptec.
The same applies in some cases with devices that are built-in on the mobo or made by a different manufacturer. The core chips are the same, but the overall device is different so the same bios/drivers may/may not work.
-Jeff
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