Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
---- what do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (screen section ?)
Craig
Em Terça 04 Julho 2006 12:09, Craig White escreveu:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
Probably your video BIOS do not offer the resolution you want. Download 915resolution: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/
Use it to list the video modes offered by your video BIOS. If the resolution you want is not listed, use the software to replace an unused mode with the one you want. After that you'll probably need to edit xorg.conf manually to add the resolution you want to your screen configuration.
[]'s Marcelo
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I have a Dell 2005FPW running at full 1680x1050 resolution running under FC5 (it is using the D-SUB adapter not the DVI one, if that matters to you). When I first installed FC5 I had problems getting it to work at the high resolution. Xorg would start and seem to be running fine, but nothing would be displayed and the log files helped none either. In the end I had to use a tool to generate a Modeline for my machine specifically. Sadly I cannot remember what the tool was for the life of me (if anyone can help it was a simple X tool that had sliders so you could tinker with it until you had the settings correct, then you had to match all the numbers with the correct spot in the modeline).
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
I am running on a nVidia GeForce 4 Go (or something of the sort), but if the card can do 1680x1050 there should be no reason to think the monitor + card combo would mess things up.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Perhaps post the error log from X (if there is one) and the xorg.conf file.
--michael
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 13:47 -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:
Sadly I cannot remember what the tool was for the life of me (if anyone can help it was a simple X tool that had sliders so you could tinker with it until you had the settings correct, then you had to match all the numbers with the correct spot in the modeline).
Perhaps "xvidtune"?
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:47:26PM -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I have a Dell 2005FPW running at full 1680x1050 resolution running under FC5
For the record, I opened a bugzilla to send the MonitorDB entries for several of our newest monitors just a few days ago. Here they are. These go in /usr/share/hwdata/MonitorsDB.
Dell; Dell 1706FPV (Analog); DEL3017; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1706FPV (Digital); DEL3018; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1707FP(Analog); DEL4012; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1707FP(Digital); DEL4013; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1800FP(Analog); DELE002; 30.0-80.0; 56.0-75.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1800FP(Digital); DELE003; 30.0-70.0; 56.0-75.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1906FP (Analog); DEL400E; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1906FP (Digital); DEL400F; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1907FP(Analog); DEL4014; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1907FP(Digital); DEL4015; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007FP (Analog); DELA020; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007FP (Digital); DELA021; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007WFP (Analog); DELA018; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007WFP (Digital); DELA019; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2405FPW (Analog); DELA00F; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2405FPW (Digital); DELA010; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2407WFP (Analog); DELA016; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2407WFP (Digital); DELA017; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 3007WFP; DEL4016; 30.0-100.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell E156FP; DELA013; 30.0-63.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell E176FP; DELA014; 31.0-80.0; 56.0-75.0; 1 Dell; Dell E196FP; DELA015; 31.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell E773mm; DELD009; 30.0-70.0; 50.0-160.0; 1 Dell; Dell M783c; DELD008; 30.0-85.0; 50.0-160.0; 1
Thanks, Matt
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 08:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
what do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (screen section ?)
Right now :
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:37 +0900, Naoki wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 08:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
what do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (screen section ?)
Right now :
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection
---- Then I gather the other reply about mode not supported by BIOS is probably appropriate - perhaps you only need to give it more RAM (presuming on board video from on board RAM) or BIOS upgrade or it's possible that the onboard video will never support that mode.
Craig
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 12:31 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
Em Terça 04 Julho 2006 12:09, Craig White escreveu:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
Probably your video BIOS do not offer the resolution you want. Download 915resolution: http://www.geocities.com/stomljen/
Use it to list the video modes offered by your video BIOS. If the resolution you want is not listed, use the software to replace an unused mode with the one you want. After that you'll probably need to edit xorg.conf manually to add the resolution you want to your screen configuration.
Aha! Don't you love forums :D
Ok, so I did the little bios hack then generated the modeline from the logs as instructed in this very handy page : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Widescreen_Resolutions_(WSXGA)
My logs for the 2007WFP showed :
(II) I810(0): clock: 146.2 MHz Image Size: 434 x 270 mm (II) I810(0): h_active: 1680 h_sync: 1784 h_sync_end 1960 h_blank_end 2240 h_border: 0 (II) I810(0): v_active: 1050 v_sync: 1053 v_sync_end 1059 v_blanking: 1089 v_border: 0
And so my resulting modeline is : ModeLine "1680x1050" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089
Now I have _almost_ the right result, it looks ok, width is find, but the bottom gnome panel is missing from the screen and the fonts look like it's not running in native resolution..
Funny thing is the monitor display menu says the resolution is 1280x1024 @ 64 but there is no panning around the screen and both gnome and X report 1680x1050..
Might just go buy a real video card as this damn integrated intel didn't come with DVI, anybody know why on earth some computers still ship with either Analog or floppy disks?
Matt Domsch wrote:
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 01:47:26PM -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I have a Dell 2005FPW running at full 1680x1050 resolution running under FC5
For the record, I opened a bugzilla to send the MonitorDB entries for several of our newest monitors just a few days ago. Here they are. These go in /usr/share/hwdata/MonitorsDB.
Dell; Dell 1706FPV (Analog); DEL3017; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1706FPV (Digital); DEL3018; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1707FP(Analog); DEL4012; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1707FP(Digital); DEL4013; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1800FP(Analog); DELE002; 30.0-80.0; 56.0-75.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1800FP(Digital); DELE003; 30.0-70.0; 56.0-75.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1906FP (Analog); DEL400E; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1906FP (Digital); DEL400F; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1907FP(Analog); DEL4014; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 1907FP(Digital); DEL4015; 30.0-81.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007FP (Analog); DELA020; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007FP (Digital); DELA021; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007WFP (Analog); DELA018; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2007WFP (Digital); DELA019; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2405FPW (Analog); DELA00F; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2405FPW (Digital); DELA010; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2407WFP (Analog); DELA016; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 2407WFP (Digital); DELA017; 30.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell 3007WFP; DEL4016; 30.0-100.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell E156FP; DELA013; 30.0-63.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell E176FP; DELA014; 31.0-80.0; 56.0-75.0; 1 Dell; Dell E196FP; DELA015; 31.0-83.0; 56.0-76.0; 1 Dell; Dell E773mm; DELD009; 30.0-70.0; 50.0-160.0; 1 Dell; Dell M783c; DELD008; 30.0-85.0; 50.0-160.0; 1
Thanks, Matt
This is really helpful. I bought a 2405FPW a few months ago which my wife instantly appropriated for herself. She runs it with a smaller 17" monitor so she has two monitors connected to the same video card. When she wassn't using her machine, I would fire up Fedora Core 4 x86_64 and it recognized the dual monitors but would only run them at 800X600. I then turned on the "Dual Head" feature of the Display Settings applet and this changed xorg.conf in such a way that the X server wouldn't start. I just upgraded her machine to FC5 and restored the backup xorg.conf file so I'm back to 800X600 and 2 monitors. I'm going to try the Nvidia driver and sample with the modelines given above.
Wide monitors are productive for my wife -- she gets a lot more work done. I'm planning to order myself a Dell flat panel for Christmas. My 19" ViewSonic CRT is strictly for the birds. Like the 3 who make up the ViewSonic logo.
Bob Cochran
Le mercredi 05 juillet 2006 à 11:37 +0900, Naoki a écrit :
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection
Since you're writing about widescreens :
Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Belinea" ModelName "10 20 35W" DisplaySize 434 272 HorizSync 31.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 75.0 ModeLine "1680x1050@60" 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync Option "dpms" EndSection
Regards,
Em Terça 04 Julho 2006 23:41, Craig White escreveu:
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:37 +0900, Naoki wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 08:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
what do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (screen section ?)
Right now :
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection
Then I gather the other reply about mode not supported by BIOS is probably appropriate - perhaps you only need to give it more RAM (presuming on board video from on board RAM) or BIOS upgrade or it's possible that the onboard video will never support that mode.
That software I mentioned, 915resolution, can replace an unused BIOS video mode by the one he wants in RAM, for Intel 915 and 945 chipsets. Of course, it needs to be executed everytime the machine is booted. It would be appropriate to do it in rc.local.
[]'s Marcelo
Hi,
Em Quarta 05 Julho 2006 00:29, Naoki escreveu:
Ok, so I did the little bios hack then generated the modeline from the logs as instructed in this very handy page : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Widescreen_Resolutions_(WSXGA)
My logs for the 2007WFP showed :
(II) I810(0): clock: 146.2 MHz Image Size: 434 x 270 mm (II) I810(0): h_active: 1680 h_sync: 1784 h_sync_end 1960 h_blank_end 2240 h_border: 0 (II) I810(0): v_active: 1050 v_sync: 1053 v_sync_end 1059 v_blanking: 1089 v_border: 0
And so my resulting modeline is : ModeLine "1680x1050" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089
Now I have _almost_ the right result, it looks ok, width is find, but the bottom gnome panel is missing from the screen and the fonts look like it's not running in native resolution..
This monitor is an LCD one, right? Did you configure X to use sub-pixel font rendering? Text doesn't look nice in LCD monitors without this. Anyway, according to your next paragraph, you may really not be using the native resolution of the monitor.
Funny thing is the monitor display menu says the resolution is 1280x1024 @ 64 but there is no panning around the screen and both gnome and X report 1680x1050..
I think you should trust the information provided by your monitor :) Did you try to set the resolution using "Modes" in the Screen section of xorg.conf, instead of using "ModeLine"? Also, FYI, I have a notebook which uses intel 945GM, but so far I have not been able to make it work using xorg i810 driver, for xorg >= 6.9. It worked well in FC4 with xorg 6.8, but I can only use it with the VESA driver in FC5. Maybe you're experiencing a driver problem.
Might just go buy a real video card as this damn integrated intel didn't come with DVI, anybody know why on earth some computers still ship with either Analog or floppy disks?
You'll certainly get better results with DVI.
[]'s Marcelo
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 09:28 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
This monitor is an LCD one, right? Did you configure X to use sub-pixel font rendering? Text doesn't look nice in LCD monitors without this.
Just to be picky, that's not necessarily the case. LCDs can show fonts quite nicely without it. But if you're using a system that draws fonts in an ugly manner without it (e.g. FC3, FC4, haven't tested FC5), yes it's the case. It seems to be the design of the fonts used by Fedora, as well as the font rendering system. Other things can draw very neat looking fonts that only occupy one pixel width.
Em Quarta 05 Julho 2006 13:07, Tim escreveu:
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 09:28 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
This monitor is an LCD one, right? Did you configure X to use sub-pixel font rendering? Text doesn't look nice in LCD monitors without this.
Just to be picky, that's not necessarily the case. LCDs can show fonts quite nicely without it. But if you're using a system that draws fonts in an ugly manner without it (e.g. FC3, FC4, haven't tested FC5), yes it's the case. It seems to be the design of the fonts used by Fedora, as well as the font rendering system. Other things can draw very neat looking fonts that only occupy one pixel width.
Yes, some systems display fonts better than others without sub-pixel rendering. However, I'm yet to see a system, Linux or not, in which text will not look nicer on LCDs after setting up sub-pixel rendering. When it's well configured, the difference is huge, specially on small fonts.
[]'s Marcelo
Le jeudi 06 juillet 2006 à 01:37 +0930, Tim a écrit :
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 09:28 -0300, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
This monitor is an LCD one, right? Did you configure X to use sub-pixel font rendering? Text doesn't look nice in LCD monitors without this.
Just to be picky, that's not necessarily the case. LCDs can show fonts quite nicely without it. But if you're using a system that draws fonts in an ugly manner without it (e.g. FC3, FC4, haven't tested FC5), yes it's the case. It seems to be the design of the fonts used by Fedora, as well as the font rendering system.
-> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts/DejavuFeedbackCall
Tim:
Just to be picky, that's not necessarily the case. LCDs can show fonts quite nicely without it. But if you're using a system that draws fonts in an ugly manner without it (e.g. FC3, FC4, haven't tested FC5), yes it's the case. It seems to be the design of the fonts used by Fedora, as well as the font rendering system. Other things can draw very neat looking fonts that only occupy one pixel width.
Marcelo Magno T. Sales:
Yes, some systems display fonts better than others without sub-pixel rendering. However, I'm yet to see a system, Linux or not, in which text will not look nicer on LCDs after setting up sub-pixel rendering. When it's well configured, the difference is huge, specially on small fonts.
I've experienced the opposite. It looks good for big fonts, but helps very little for small fonts.
I've seen fonts which render one pixel to one pixel on an LCD screen, and they're neat to read. Small, and neat. No antialiasing.
Contrariwise, I've seen small fonts are a complete mess on LCDs, where the font drawing pixels don't sit on the LCD display pixels, glitching about. The blurring involved with antialiasing just made them more of a fuzzy mess. It didn't help any in that case, and makes everything look soft and fuzzy all the time, anyway. Even without that dancing about, it still didn't help draw them better.
It's an attempt to make things look better on a low resolution display device that doesn't always work. Thus far, I compare it to the differences you see on old dot-matrix printers, where you had nice simple fonts that were made from an 8x8 grid, that were quite legible, compared against attempts to show complex tiny fonts where there weren't really enough dots per inch to do so.
It's a stop gap measure until LCD display resolutions get up to the point that CRTs have had for quite some time.
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
Em Terça 04 Julho 2006 23:41, Craig White escreveu:
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:37 +0900, Naoki wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 08:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
Howdy all,
Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in 'gnome-display-properties' ?
I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 with no widescreen options.
If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear it.
Cheers.
Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
what do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (screen section ?)
Right now :
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection
Then I gather the other reply about mode not supported by BIOS is probably appropriate - perhaps you only need to give it more RAM (presuming on board video from on board RAM) or BIOS upgrade or it's possible that the onboard video will never support that mode.
That software I mentioned, 915resolution, can replace an unused BIOS video mode by the one he wants in RAM, for Intel 915 and 945 chipsets. Of course, it needs to be executed everytime the machine is booted. It would be appropriate to do it in rc.local.
[]'s Marcelo
Grab:
ftp://ftp.redfish-solutions.com/pub/915resolution-0.5.2-2.i386.rpm
(or conversely, grab the .src rpm if you want).
This repackaging will create entries in /etc/sysconfig and /etc/rc.d/init.d/ to integrate a little better on RH/FC than the version you get from the author.
Oh, and I've found that Dell makes LCD monitors that frequently have slightly incorrect DDC parameters. To use a 2005FWP over VGA, for instance, I had to use:
ModeLine "1680x1050 (Dell')" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1091
and not the:
ModeLine "1680x1050 (Dell)" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089
that the DDC reported (or else the top 3 scan lines would be off-screen).
I've had similar issues with a Dell 2405FPW.
-Philip
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 05:25 +0930, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 13:47 -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:
Sadly I cannot remember what the tool was for the life of me (if anyone can help it was a simple X tool that had sliders so you could tinker with it until you had the settings correct, then you had to match all the numbers with the correct spot in the modeline).
Perhaps "xvidtune"?
Xvidtune will hurtcha if you are not verwy verwy careful... hehheheheheh
I blew the smoke out of a very nice 15" multisync back when they cost large dollars, just because I thought it would do something that it would not. xvidtune just gleefully did what I told it to do... <POOF!> before I could hit the power button to off. The flyback made a ZING! noise, then I saw the smoke. I cried like a grandmother that day over a ruined display and $500 "up in smoke".
Be verwy verwy careful... heheheheheheh! Ric
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 18:03 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
Xvidtune will hurtcha if you are not verwy verwy careful...
Yes, but it does warn you first. ;-)
I think Windows should come with a warning like that before the installation starts, and when you first log on...
Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 18:03 -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
Xvidtune will hurtcha if you are not verwy verwy careful...
Yes, but it does warn you first. ;-)
I think Windows should come with a warning like that before the installation starts, and when you first log on...
I think its well known reputation has tended to serve as that warning. Unforch, familiarity breeds contempt, so its largely ignored by the sheeple who run it.
Having been fed up with the lack of a correct resolution I decided to upgrade to fedora rawhide, I've been updating daily and messing about with my xorg.conf to try and get this resolved without the need for 915resolution.
Over the weekend I logged into my work box, updated it (Fedora Core release 5.90 rawhide as of 20070709), then rebooted it.
To my happy surprise this morning I moved the mouse and when the screen un-blanked it was at the correct resolution, no panning, nothing cropped off the screen. Ohh joy and happy days..
So, the package versions that might be of interest to people are :
xorg-x11-drv-i810-1.6.0-6.modeset20060707 xorg-x11-drivers-7.1-2 xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.1.0-27.fc6
And my xorg.conf file is here :
[root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display
Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "single head configuration" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection
Section "Files"
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, a font server independent of the X server is # used to render fonts. FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection
Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" # Load "dri" EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection
Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection
Section "Monitor"
### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: # HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 # VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "DELL 2007WFP" DisplaySize 434 272 ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 56.0 - 76.0 Option "dpms" ModeLine "1680x1050" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync EndSection
Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "Intel Corporation 945G Integrated Graphics Controller" EndSection
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display"
#Modes "1680x1050" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" "1280x800" EndSubSection EndSection
Ric Moore wrote:
Xvidtune will hurtcha if you are not verwy verwy careful... hehheheheheh
I blew the smoke out of a very nice 15" multisync back when they cost large dollars, just because I thought it would do something that it would not. xvidtune just gleefully did what I told it to do... <POOF!> before I could hit the power button to off. The flyback made a ZING! noise, then I saw the smoke. I cried like a grandmother that day over a ruined display and $500 "up in smoke".
I understand that modern monitors are *much* less likely to do this (and LCDs don't have the right sort of hardware for the pyrotechnics). With the electronics in them, modern monitors can wait until the incoming signal has definitely stabilised and is definitely something that the monitor is prepared to handle before they even try displaying something. If the monitor isn't happy with the signal it will either go black, or possibly display a "NO SIGNAL" message.
That's why there's a ~1 second delay when you switch resolutions. The delay doesn't cost the manufacturer anything, but broken screens mean they have to handle the returns.
But then there's my sigmonster's take on things:
I did. But my display is a 2005FPW and video board is i915. Let me know if that is of interest to you. I used 915resolution.
I did not find the way to get rid of a black stripe on the left side of the screen. Tried all the modelines I could get my hands on on the web to no avail. If anyone has modelines that work without this black stripe, I am interested.
I running xorg: laurent > X -version
X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-42.0.2.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux chronos-lt 2.6.9-42.0.3.EL #1 Fri Oct 6 05:59:54 CDT 2006 i686 Build Date: 13 September 2006 Build Host: build-i386
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org [1] to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-42.0.3.EL (buildsvn@build-i386 [2]) (gcc version 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)) #1 Fri Oct 6 05:59:54 CDT 2006 F
Links: ------ [1] http://wiki.X.Org [2] mailto:buildsvn@build-i386
lmnca wrote:
I did. But my display is a 2005FPW and video board is i915. Let me know if that is of interest to you. I used 915resolution.
I did not find the way to get rid of a black stripe on the left side of the screen. Tried all the modelines I could get my hands on on the web to no avail. If anyone has modelines that work without this black stripe, I am interested.
I running xorg: laurent > X -version
X Window System Version 6.8.2 Release Date: 9 February 2005 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.2 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-42.0.2.ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux chronos-lt 2.6.9-42.0.3.EL #1 Fri Oct 6 05:59:54 CDT 2006 i686 Build Date: 13 September 2006 Build Host: build-i386
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org [1] to make sure that you have the latest version.Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-42.0.3.EL (buildsvn@build-i386 [2]) (gcc version 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-3)) #1 Fri Oct 6 05:59:54 CDT 2006 F
Links:
[1] http://wiki.X.Org [2] mailto:buildsvn@build-i386
That monitor does not report its capabilities properly.. It is .1 off. :)
Here are the lines from my xorg.conf file that make the differences:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "LCD Panel 1920x1200" ### Comment all HorizSync and VertSync values to use DDC: HorizSync 31.5 - 90.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 Option "dpms" EndSection
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 Option "ModeValidation" "NoMaxPClkCheck" SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1920x1200" "1680x1050" "1280x800" EndSubSection EndSection
That should do it. The only trick is the NoMaxPClkCheck entry.
This works on mine with the nvidia and nv drivers.
Philip Prindeville wrote:
Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
Em Terça 04 Julho 2006 23:41, Craig White escreveu:
On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 11:37 +0900, Naoki wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 08:09 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 09:17 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
Naoki wrote:
>Howdy all, > >Anybody managed to get 1680x1050 as an available resolution in >'gnome-display-properties' ? > >I'm running an intel 945G graphics chip and all I get is 1600x1200 >with no widescreen options. > >If anybody knows the magic xorg.conf hack I'd be very happy to hear >it. > >Cheers. > > > Good luck. I've tired bios hacks, alternate drivers, and dozens of configs with the same monitor and chip set. I think it's impossible.
what do you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf (screen section ?)
Right now :
Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1680x1050" EndSubSection EndSection
Then I gather the other reply about mode not supported by BIOS is probably appropriate - perhaps you only need to give it more RAM (presuming on board video from on board RAM) or BIOS upgrade or it's possible that the onboard video will never support that mode.
That software I mentioned, 915resolution, can replace an unused BIOS video mode by the one he wants in RAM, for Intel 915 and 945 chipsets. Of course, it needs to be executed everytime the machine is booted. It would be appropriate to do it in rc.local.
[]'s Marcelo
Grab:
ftp://ftp.redfish-solutions.com/pub/915resolution-0.5.2-2.i386.rpm
(or conversely, grab the .src rpm if you want).
This repackaging will create entries in /etc/sysconfig and /etc/rc.d/init.d/ to integrate a little better on RH/FC than the version you get from the author.
Oh, and I've found that Dell makes LCD monitors that frequently have slightly incorrect DDC parameters. To use a 2005FWP over VGA, for instance, I had to use:
ModeLine "1680x1050 (Dell')" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1091
and not the:
ModeLine "1680x1050 (Dell)" 146.2 1680 1784 1960 2240 1050 1053 1059 1089
that the DDC reported (or else the top 3 scan lines would be off-screen).
I've had similar issues with a Dell 2405FPW.
-Philip
Just an update:
I've taken 915resolution off my server... though I notice from the FTP server logs people are still looking for it there.
Instead, go to:
http://www.atrpms.net/dist/fc5/915resolution/ http://www.atrpms.net/dist/fc6/915resolution/
Note, of course, that it's only built in i386... there is no x86_64 image.
-Philip
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