The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reaches the install step and just keeps running without end.
Does this work for other people? If so what is your trick to get it to work?
Am 01.03.2013 15:57, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reaches the install step and just keeps running without end.
Does this work for other people? If so what is your trick to get it to work?
what says "yum upgrade" as root?
all this graphical crap is a frontend to yum with zero feedback if something does not work perfectly
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 16:20 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 01.03.2013 15:57, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reaches the install step and just keeps running without end.
Does this work for other people? If so what is your trick to get it to work?
what says "yum upgrade" as root?
all this graphical crap is a frontend to yum with zero feedback if something does not work perfectly
yum upgrade works. I am just curious if my experience is unique.
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reaches the install step and just keeps running without end.
Does this work for other people? If so what is your trick to get it to work? --
What I wanted to know if this works for others. I have not gotten any response giving that information.
Am 02.03.2013 15:27, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reaches the install step and just keeps running without end.
Does this work for other people? If so what is your trick to get it to work?
What I wanted to know if this works for others. I have not gotten any response giving that information
which indicates that the majority of all users avoid the grapical stuff and use always yum for good reasons
On 03/02/2013 09:30 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 02.03.2013 15:27, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 08:57 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
The Check Updates option in the Software application does not work for me. It starts as expected reporting the number of updates. But it never reaches the install step and just keeps running without end.
Does this work for other people? If so what is your trick to get it to work?
What I wanted to know if this works for others. I have not gotten any response giving that information
which indicates that the majority of all users avoid the grapical stuff and use always yum for good reasons
Not completely accurate. Check Updates in Apper works all the time for me. Sometimes Apper will hang, or delay-and-delay, /after/ the update is done.
None of those GUI extenders issues commands like "yum clean metadata." So when I want to run an update on my own schedule, I issue that command first.
The best part of a GUI: when you want to know what packages are available, you don't lose the first listing just because it has scrolled above your command-line prompt (xterm, Konsole, etc.) window. Instead you always know what's available, and can give orders for installation with a few clicks. Occasionally I use "yumex" for that view.
There has never been any "trick" to "making Check Updates work" in Apper. It has worked, straight-out-of-the-box, since KDE pushed it through to replace KPackageKit. I abandoned another third-party GUI, called "smart," once Apper became available and I saw how versatile it could be.
I respectfully suggest that neither Fedora nor any other distribution is ever going to gain any traction with greater numbers of users, should the community ever decide to abandon the GUI completely and use command-line applications (manually initiated, at that) for routine system maintenance.
Temlakos
Am 02.03.2013 15:52, schrieb Temlakos:
The best part of a GUI: when you want to know what packages are available, you don't lose the first listing just because it has scrolled above your command-line prompt (xterm, Konsole, etc.) window
jokingly? "Konsole" knows scrolling and even settings for infinite buffer
on my machines i scroll back 3 days if needed
Allegedly, on or about 02 March 2013, Temlakos sent:
None of those GUI extenders issues commands like "yum clean metadata." So when I want to run an update on my own schedule, I issue that command first.
I've rarely ever had to do such a thing, and I certainly wouldn't bother doing each time. But then I don't go updating every day, so I'm probably not fighting stale cached data.
The best part of a GUI: when you want to know what packages are available, you don't lose the first listing just because it has scrolled above your command-line prompt (xterm, Konsole, etc.) window.
You can increase the buffer size of your console, so it is possible to scroll further back.
I respectfully suggest that neither Fedora nor any other distribution is ever going to gain any traction with greater numbers of users, should the community ever decide to abandon the GUI completely and use command-line applications (manually initiated, at that) for routine system maintenance.
That would seem the opposite of what actually happens. The command line was first, the GUI came next. If anything's being abandoned, it's the command line. Leaving you with only GUIs to control some things, and often inadequate GUIs, at that.
On 03/03/2013 01:30 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 02 March 2013, Temlakos sent:
None of those GUI extenders issues commands like "yum clean metadata." So when I want to run an update on my own schedule, I issue that command first.
I've rarely ever had to do such a thing, and I certainly wouldn't bother doing each time. But then I don't go updating every day, so I'm probably not fighting stale cached data.
The best part of a GUI: when you want to know what packages are available, you don't lose the first listing just because it has scrolled above your command-line prompt (xterm, Konsole, etc.) window.
You can increase the buffer size of your console, so it is possible to scroll further back.
I respectfully suggest that neither Fedora nor any other distribution is ever going to gain any traction with greater numbers of users, should the community ever decide to abandon the GUI completely and use command-line applications (manually initiated, at that) for routine system maintenance.
That would seem the opposite of what actually happens. The command line was first, the GUI came next. If anything's being abandoned, it's the command line. Leaving you with only GUIs to control some things, and often inadequate GUIs, at that.
I wouldn't recommend abandoning command-line tools, either. The secret to system security, whether against unauthorized access or against accidental data loss, is redundancy. That includes redundancy in the tools we use to manage our data.
Temlakos
On 2 March 2013 14:30, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
which indicates that the majority of all users avoid the grapical stuff and use always yum for good reasons
Emails like this remind me why I should unsubscribe from users@fp.o
Richard.
Am 03.03.2013 09:38, schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 2 March 2013 14:30, Reindl Harald h.reindl@thelounge.net wrote:
which indicates that the majority of all users avoid the grapical stuff and use always yum for good reasons
Emails like this remind me why I should unsubscribe from users@fp.o
ah because you could learn how to use command-line tools, that for things are command-line tools existing which you did not imagine and find out how much faster and clearer many things are possible as with it could done in a GUI
your choice - be happy
i also came from winow and seeked for GUI's here or there but it took only a very short timeframe do do ANY system maintainance far away from a GUI and this knowledge helps you work on remote-machines and leaded to get a payed systems administrator a few years later - guess that would not had happened with move them ouse from the left to the right
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