Hi All,
Anyone have a favorite on screen keyboard that will operate under Xfce?
I have been using Florence, but it seems to not be supported anymore and crashes a lot.
Many thanks, -T
On Monday, February 4, 2019 10:58:59 PM EST ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Anyone have a favorite on screen keyboard that will operate under Xfce?
I have been using Florence, but it seems to not be supported anymore and crashes a lot.
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I prefer `onboard`.
On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 19:58 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Anyone have a favorite on screen keyboard that will operate under Xfce?
I have been using Florence, but it seems to not be supported anymore and crashes a lot.
Slightly OT, but I've long wished I could have a keyboard widget like the one in MacOS, where it just shows you the currently active keyboard and reacts to Ctrl, Alt, Shift etc. by changing the keycaps. It's incredibly useful if you want to find some unusual combination but I've never found one that does this on Linux.
poc
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 6:20:27 AM EST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2019-02-04 at 19:58 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Anyone have a favorite on screen keyboard that will operate under Xfce?
I have been using Florence, but it seems to not be supported anymore and crashes a lot.
Slightly OT, but I've long wished I could have a keyboard widget like the one in MacOS, where it just shows you the currently active keyboard and reacts to Ctrl, Alt, Shift etc. by changing the keycaps. It's incredibly useful if you want to find some unusual combination but I've never found one that does this on Linux.
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`onboard` ☺
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 10:56 -0500, John Harris wrote:
`onboard` ☺
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
poc
On 2/5/19 9:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
I'm not quite sure what you're meaning, but in gnome settings, region & language, you can bring up a keyboard picture that will highlight keys as you press them.
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 12:33:51 PM EST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 10:56 -0500, John Harris wrote:
`onboard` ☺
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
I got that, `onboard` does that.
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 11:15 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2/5/19 9:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
I'm not quite sure what you're meaning, but in gnome settings, region & language, you can bring up a keyboard picture that will highlight keys as you press them.
I use KDE. I was hoping for something DE-independent, but will take a KDE equivalent if one exists.
Thanks anyway.
poc
On 2/6/19 5:54 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I use KDE. I was hoping for something DE-independent, but will take a KDE equivalent if one exists.
I have never tried it, but there is
Name : kvkbd Version : 0.6 Release : 18.fc29 Arch : x86_64 Size : 94 k Source : kvkbd-0.6-18.fc29.src.rpm Repo : fedora Summary : Virtual keyboard for KDE URL : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kvkbd+-+KDE4?content=94374 License : GPLv2+ Description : Kvkbd is a virtual keyboard for KDE, it contains many feature like : system tray and dock support, autodetection and on the fly change of : the keyboard layout, scripting with DBus, etc.
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 21:54 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 11:15 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2/5/19 9:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
I'm not quite sure what you're meaning, but in gnome settings, region & language, you can bring up a keyboard picture that will highlight keys as you press them.
I use KDE. I was hoping for something DE-independent, but will take a KDE equivalent if one exists.
I just checked the Gnome widget. It's just a slightly better-looking version of xkeycaps and doesn't do what I'm talking about.
poc
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 21:59 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 21:54 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 11:15 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2/5/19 9:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
I'm not quite sure what you're meaning, but in gnome settings, region & language, you can bring up a keyboard picture that will highlight keys as you press them.
I use KDE. I was hoping for something DE-independent, but will take a KDE equivalent if one exists.
I just checked the Gnome widget. It's just a slightly better-looking version of xkeycaps and doesn't do what I'm talking about.
I found an old video of what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNePcJe6xCc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m8s
poc
On 2/5/19 2:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I found an old video of what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNePcJe6xCc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m8s
That was very helpful. However, I've never seen anything like that.
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 4:54:02 PM EST Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 11:15 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2/5/19 9:33 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That's not what I'm saying. As with most of these widgets onboard is for typing using the screen instead of a keyboard. I don't care about that. The MacOS widget (formally called Key Caps and now called Keyboard Viewer) allows me to *see* the keycaps in the onscreen keyboard image change as I press the Ctrl, Alt etc. key combinations, to show what the resulting input *would be* if I typed them. I don't mind it also entering the character if I click on it, but that's not the point.
I'm not quite sure what you're meaning, but in gnome settings, region & language, you can bring up a keyboard picture that will highlight keys as you press them.
I use KDE. I was hoping for something DE-independent, but will take a KDE equivalent if one exists.
Thanks anyway.
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`onboard` is DE independent. ☺
On 2/5/19 2:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I found an old video of what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNePcJe6xCc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m8s
I'm not sure that this is even possible. Definitely not on Wayland. On X, I suppose it could get the info from xkb, but only for things registered that way.
What are you trying to accomplish with this?
On Tuesday, February 5, 2019 5:22:20 PM EST Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2/5/19 2:18 PM, John Harris wrote:
`onboard` is DE independent. ☺
But it doesn't do what he's looking for.
You can configure `onboard` to highlight keys that are pressed, but I'm afraid it won't switch its layout when you hold down your compose key, and other such things.
On Tue, 2019-02-05 at 14:24 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 2/5/19 2:09 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I found an old video of what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNePcJe6xCc&feature=youtu.be&t=1m8s
I'm not sure that this is even possible. Definitely not on Wayland. On X, I suppose it could get the info from xkb, but only for things registered that way.
What are you trying to accomplish with this?
It's a question of basic usability. When I want to type an "international" character, it would be nice to see how to do it without having to root around in keyboard files. Accents are easy as I use dead keys (áéíóúñ) but other things are harder, e.g. the Spanish upside-down question mark which I can never remember how to get. I'm frankly surprised that no-one seems to have brought this up before. I'm only a very occasional Mac user, but this kind of thing is something Apple has got right. Of course they have the advantage of complete control over the platform.
poc
Allegedly, on or about 6 February 2019, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
It's a question of basic usability. When I want to type an "international" character, it would be nice to see how to do it without having to root around in keyboard files. Accents are easy as I use dead keys (áéíóúñ) but other things are harder, e.g. the Spanish upside-down question mark which I can never remember how to get. I'm frankly surprised that no-one seems to have brought this up before.
I went with using the compose key, because of the lack of information about which keys to use (as we're discussing - quick key show utility), and I can usually figure out ways to type the usual culprits with the compose key (because it picks on common typewriter symbols that look a bit close to the accents you want to add to another character).
e.g. hit compose c then comma produces ç hit compose ? then ? produces ¿
I'd seriously like to see a new style of keyboard which includes more punctuation marks (dashes, proper quotes, different spaces, etc) on dedicated keys.
On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 22:03 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 6 February 2019, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
It's a question of basic usability. When I want to type an "international" character, it would be nice to see how to do it without having to root around in keyboard files. Accents are easy as I use dead keys (áéíóúñ) but other things are harder, e.g. the Spanish upside-down question mark which I can never remember how to get. I'm frankly surprised that no-one seems to have brought this up before.
I went with using the compose key, because of the lack of information about which keys to use (as we're discussing - quick key show utility), and I can usually figure out ways to type the usual culprits with the compose key (because it picks on common typewriter symbols that look a bit close to the accents you want to add to another character).
e.g. hit compose c then comma produces ç hit compose ? then ? produces ¿
Sure, except that now you only have to figure out which is the Compose key. This is not something I want to have to explain to a user, even if I can figure it out for myself if I read enough documentation. It's an absurd situation.
(Note that Windows is if anything even worse. The only dead-key settings officially supported are for US keyboards and I still haven't figured out how to type ñ on Windows w/o having to resort to some weird ALT-NNN combination. Seriously, life is too short for this nonsense).
I'd seriously like to see a new style of keyboard which includes more punctuation marks (dashes, proper quotes, different spaces, etc) on dedicated keys.
I'm not too fussed about that as inevitably no kb can include everything. What I want is for the magic combos to be *discoverable*. That's what the MacOS Key Viewer enables.
poc
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