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[jdow]

These three lines appear at the bottom of every mailing from this list.
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clueless enough not to save your subscription dialog.

You can also look at the full headers for the list which include these
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Note in particular the "List-Unsubscribe:" entry. It shows TWO proper
ways to unsubscribe.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Felix Cudello Hernandez" 
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[Andrew Lewis]

Granted.

Goodbye from Fedora-list.

On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:43, [e-mail] wrote:
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[jdow]

Sorry, you must do this yourself. I leave it as an educational exercise
for you to learn how. It's really not hard at all.
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[Edward Croft]

On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:32, jdow wrote:
> Sorry, you must do this yourself. I leave it as an educational exercise
> for you to learn how. It's really not hard at all.
> {^_^}

J, some of these people got placed on the list inadvertently. At least
that is what I am getting. They didn't sign on and can't sign off. Being
as they probably don't have a password, it is not as easy as you think.
I know that the same happened on the redhat list and there is someone
from Red Hat monitoring on that list and taking people off manually. So
short of someone getting and "educational exercise" in how to hack into
a system in order to get them off a list that they didn't ask to be on,
well, I think that is a bit much.

[jdow]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Croft"
> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:32, jdow wrote:
> > Sorry, you must do this yourself. I leave it as an educational exercise
> > for you to learn how. It's really not hard at all.
> > {^_^}
>
> J, some of these people got placed on the list inadvertently. At least
> that is what I am getting. They didn't sign on and can't sign off. Being
> as they probably don't have a password, it is not as easy as you think.
> I know that the same happened on the redhat list and there is someone
> from Red Hat monitoring on that list and taking people off manually. So
> short of someone getting and "educational exercise" in how to hack into
> a system in order to get them off a list that they didn't ask to be on,
> well, I think that is a bit much.

Considering how the sign on process works it should be remarkably hard
for someone to get signed on involuntarily unless they are just plain
not safe around computers and have an easily hacked password on a machine
that is not physically secured.
{o.o}

[Edward Croft]

On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 14:14, jdow wrote:
> Considering how the sign on process works it should be remarkably hard
> for someone to get signed on involuntarily unless they are just plain
> not safe around computers and have an easily hacked password on a machine
> that is not physically secured.
> {o.o}

Except if they never signed on to start with as is the issue on the red
hat list. This may also be the case here. I let the person that was
handling this issue on the red hat list know that it might be happening
here also. This was a red hat issue not a user issue, so please stop
jumping all over these people.

[Michael Schwendt]

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:49:00 -0500, Edward Croft wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:32, jdow wrote:
> > Sorry, you must do this yourself. I leave it as an educational exercise
> > for you to learn how. It's really not hard at all.
> > {^_^}
>
> J, some of these people got placed on the list inadvertently.
> At least that is what I am getting.

How's that possible when subscription confirmation is necessary?

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[jdow]

Quoth Michael:
> On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:49:00 -0500, Edward Croft wrote:
> > J, some of these people got placed on the list inadvertently.
> > At least that is what I am getting.
> How's that possible when subscription confirmation is necessary?

I can think of ways. But people that sloppy with their personal security
have earned the long wait until the list manager gets around to pulling
them from the list. They've also earned the scorn being heaped upon them.

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