rclone on F41: mounting proton drive

[Ranjan Maitra]

Dear friends,

According to the manpage for Rclone, it seems to me that I an option with a number for mounting Proton drive using rclone on F41 (when we get to Storage). However, I tried both v1.67.0 and v1.68.2 (that is on updates-testing) but I can not find this option. Is there something special that needs to be done?

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan

[Todd Zullinger]

Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> According to the manpage for Rclone, it seems to me that I
> an option with a number for mounting Proton drive using
> rclone on F41 (when we get to Storage). However, I tried
> both v1.67.0 and v1.68.2 (that is on updates-testing) but
> I can not find this option. Is there something special
> that needs to be done?

Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2336979#c1:
> Backend is disabled for now
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rclone/blob/rawhide/f/rclone.spec#_6

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Sun Jan12'25 01:08:52PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> From: Todd Zullinger 
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 13:08:52 -0500
> To: [e-mail]
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: rclone on F41: mounting proton drive
>
> Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > According to the manpage for Rclone, it seems to me that I
> > an option with a number for mounting Proton drive using
> > rclone on F41 (when we get to Storage). However, I tried
> > both v1.67.0 and v1.68.2 (that is on updates-testing) but
> > I can not find this option. Is there something special
> > that needs to be done?
>
> Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2336979#c1:
> > Backend is disabled for now
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rclone/blob/rawhide/f/rclone.spec#_6

Thanks very much! So I see that I should probably enable Backend in a privately rolled rpm? I wonder why this is disabled. Enabling it would also allow more testing and use cases for upstream.

Best wishes,
Ranjan

[Todd Zullinger]

Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> On Sun Jan12'25 01:08:52PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> > Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2336979#c1:
> > > Backend is disabled for now
> > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rclone/blob/rawhide/f/rclone.spec#_6
>
> Thanks very much! So I see that I should probably enable
> Backend in a privately rolled rpm? I wonder why this is
> disabled. Enabling it would also allow more testing and
> use cases for upstream.

The second link states it pretty clearly. :)

# protondrive backend introduces many new deps

Unless/until those dependencies are all packaged, it's not
just a matter of turning it on.

This is a common issue with projects using Go (or Rust, or
many of the "modern" languages) which generally expect
developers and users to blindly pull code from the network).

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Sun Jan12'25 01:24:04PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> From: Todd Zullinger 
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 13:24:04 -0500
> To: [e-mail]
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: rclone on F41: mounting proton drive
>
> Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > On Sun Jan12'25 01:08:52PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> > > Per https://bugzilla.redhat.com/2336979#c1:
> > > > Backend is disabled for now
> > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rclone/blob/rawhide/f/rclone.spec#_6
> >
> > Thanks very much! So I see that I should probably enable
> > Backend in a privately rolled rpm? I wonder why this is
> > disabled. Enabling it would also allow more testing and
> > use cases for upstream.
>
> The second link states it pretty clearly. :)
> # protondrive backend introduces many new deps
>
> Unless/until those dependencies are all packaged, it's not
> just a matter of turning it on.
>
> This is a common issue with projects using Go (or Rust, or
> many of the "modern" languages) which generally expect
> developers and users to blindly pull code from the network).

Thanks for the clarifications and explanations! What would you suggest for mounting a Proton drive. I basically want to copy my files out of it.

Many thanks, and best wishes,
Ranjan

[Todd Zullinger]

Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> Thanks for the clarifications and explanations! What would
> you suggest for mounting a Proton drive. I basically want
> to copy my files out of it.

Unfortunately, I don't have any direct experience with
Proton Drive.  Hopefully someone else will be able to help.

Proton Drive may provide a way to download/export your files
via the browser, similar to what can be done via Google
Drive?

It may be possible to get a build of rclone which includes
the Proton Drive dependencies, if you are comfortable taking
binaries from upstream or somewhere outside of Fedora.

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Sun Jan12'25 09:09:06PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> From: Todd Zullinger 
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 21:09:06 -0500
> To: [e-mail]
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: rclone on F41: mounting proton drive
>
> Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > Thanks for the clarifications and explanations! What would
> > you suggest for mounting a Proton drive. I basically want
> > to copy my files out of it.
>
> Unfortunately, I don't have any direct experience with
> Proton Drive.  Hopefully someone else will be able to help.
>
> Proton Drive may provide a way to download/export your files
> via the browser, similar to what can be done via Google
> Drive?

They appear to only allow this one file at a time which is not really efficient (unless there is a script one can write to do this).
> It may be possible to get a build of rclone which includes
> the Proton Drive dependencies, if you are comfortable taking
> binaries from upstream or somewhere outside of Fedora.

Thanks, I found a project called Celeste:

https://github.com/hwittenborn/celeste

Though I would prefer a commandline setup for greater control, I can try this. However, I have never installed either from flatpak or snap: which one is preferred? I have to rather embarrassingly say I do not quite know the difference.

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan

[Mike Wright]

On 1/12/25 19:55, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> Thanks, I found a project called Celeste:
>
> https://github.com/hwittenborn/celeste
>
> Though I would prefer a commandline setup for greater control, I can try this. However, I have never installed either from flatpak or snap: which one is preferred? I have to rather embarrassingly say I do not quite know the difference.

Snap is an Ubuntu thing and I had to go to *great* lengths to get rid of 
it.  Even if you figure out how to rid yourself of it, it is a 
dependency of everything so the next time you install anything it will 
reinfect your system.  flatpak seems to be *much* less intrusive.

IMO,
:m

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Sun Jan12'25 08:25:18PM, Mike Wright wrote:
> From: Mike Wright 
> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 20:25:18 -0800
> To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: rclone on F41: mounting proton drive
>
> On 1/12/25 19:55, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > Thanks, I found a project called Celeste:
> >
> > https://github.com/hwittenborn/celeste
> >
> > Though I would prefer a commandline setup for greater control, I can try this. However, I have never installed either from flatpak or snap: which one is preferred? I have to rather embarrassingly say I do not quite know the difference.
>
> Snap is an Ubuntu thing and I had to go to *great* lengths to get rid of it.
> Even if you figure out how to rid yourself of it, it is a dependency of
> everything so the next time you install anything it will reinfect your
> system.  flatpak seems to be *much* less intrusive.
>
> IMO,
> :m

So, I installed using flatpak, but it did "not really work." However, I noticed that I can

$ curl https://rclone.org/install.sh | sudo bash

to directly install the CLI-based rclone from rclone.org so that is what I intended doing.

However, sadly, ProtonDrive does not allow photographs to be transferred from the drive. However, I found that on the web interface, if you have more than a single month of photographs, then you can check on the month and download the whole month of photographs so that is an option.

As an aside, I do not quite understand what value there is in not allowing transfers of photographs from a backup drive. Perhaps Proton has some reasons.

Hope all this information helps someone.

Thanks to all for your help!

Best wishes,
Ranjan