I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Thanks for any links.
Quoting jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Thanks for any links.
was it even on CD? My first slackware came from walnut creek on diskettes (20 of 'em!)
Dave
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On 02/26/2015 04:43 AM, Dave Stevens wrote:
Quoting jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Thanks for any links.
was it even on CD?
I am pretty sure, there wasn't any.
My first slackware came from walnut creek on diskettes (20 of 'em!)
The very first Linux, I played with, consisted of ca. 4 floppies (IIRC, these were published be Linus T.). However, these were very soon replaced by floppies from SLS and later from Slackware.
The first Linux on CD, I had, came from S.u.S.E.
Ralf
Once upon a time, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com said:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Linus just does the kernel, not distribution ISOs, so you won't find any from him.
The earliest Linux I ran was in the pre-distribution days, when H.J. Lu at MIT (who IIRC maintained the early Linux ports of gcc/binutils and libc) put together boot/root floppy sets. You had the "boot" floppy, which was just a kernel; it would load and then prompt you to insert the root filesystem floppy and press return. You then inserted the "root" floppy, which had your basic root filesystem.
It was a big deal when he trimmed things down enough to make a single boot/root combined floppy; you didn't have to change disks! It booted to a bash prompt, and had basic tools like ls, vi, fdisk, and mkfs.
I don't believe I have any of those old floppy images anymore, and I didn't find copies when I looked around a few years ago.
I think I still have some Slackware floppies in a box in my storage room, probably from early 1995. The oldest Red Hat product I have is Red Hat Linux 3.0.3 on CD, from 1996. Since a lot of systems then didn't boot from CD (or didn't even have CD), the CD set included the floppy images that you could also use to install.
In the very early days, the only way to get Linux components was by dialup download. There were no "distributions". It was everybody for themselves.
If one had an issue, it was easy to email Linus or Alan Cox.
I did a few ports in 1992/93 including things like gated and imapd and Alan and/or Linus made the necessary kernel mods when I needed them.
Interesting times - specially when changing things like libc.
On 26/02/15 13:54, jd1008 wrote:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Thanks for any links.
On 26.02.2015, Dave Stevens wrote:
was it even on CD? My first slackware came from walnut creek on diskettes (20 of 'em!)
I second that!
Well there is no way it was on CD, we didn't have those yet. In case anyone is interested I still have my original copy of Minix, PC/AT Version, by Tanenbaum. Spent weeks compiling and tweaking it on my poor little 286 machine until it gave up and died.
Jim Lewis
On 02/26/2015 03:43 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 26.02.2015, Dave Stevens wrote:
was it even on CD? My first slackware came from walnut creek on diskettes (20 of 'em!)
I second that!
mine was a slackware CD.. 2.4 ? 1996??
On Thursday 26 February 2015 09:22:57 Jim Lewis wrote:
On 26.02.2015, Dave Stevens wrote:
was it even on CD? My first slackware came from walnut creek on diskettes (20 of 'em!)
I second that!
Well there is no way it was on CD, we didn't have those yet. In case anyone is interested I still have my original copy of Minix, PC/AT Version, by Tanenbaum. Spent weeks compiling and tweaking it on my poor little 286 machine until it gave up and died.
Jim Lewis
OMG, memory jog.
My first venture into this area was also with Minix on a 50MB external SCSI HDD running on my Atari ST. It came pre-installed on the HDD :-)
My first Linux was much later, Red Hat 3 installed onto a 386 with a massive 100MB HDd which came on floppy but I can't remember how many. Probably in the region of 20 too. I think back then I was still using Compuserv, before the internet really became the internet.
That was I think our company's first ever mail server, when only about 4 people in the whole company had email, and our network was thin-ethernet connected to the thick ethernet used by our ICL mainframe. What a pain that was if someone removed a terminator lol
We still collected our emails hourly using a dial-up modem connection as did everyone else who wasn't in education or the military.
Hi
Just to put my own 10 cents worth in here. I went to Manchester Computing Centre throughout the 90's. At that time Dr Owen Le Blanc was writing some early code for the GNU/Linux kernel. He was in touch with Linus a lot of the time...
http://people.man.ac.uk/~zlsiial/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCC_Interim_Linux
I helped Owen and some other people to start ManLUG which is still running today. www.manlug.org. The rest is history. Over the years I've spent many happy hours flying around the world promoting GNU/Linux by writing for magazines.
It's been fun :)
On 02/25/2015 09:08 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com said:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Linus just does the kernel, not distribution ISOs, so you won't find any from him.
The earliest Linux I ran was in the pre-distribution days, when H.J. Lu at MIT (who IIRC maintained the early Linux ports of gcc/binutils and libc) put together boot/root floppy sets. You had the "boot" floppy, which was just a kernel; it would load and then prompt you to insert the root filesystem floppy and press return. You then inserted the "root" floppy, which had your basic root filesystem.
It was a big deal when he trimmed things down enough to make a single boot/root combined floppy; you didn't have to change disks! It booted to a bash prompt, and had basic tools like ls, vi, fdisk, and mkfs.
I don't believe I have any of those old floppy images anymore, and I didn't find copies when I looked around a few years ago.
I think I still have some Slackware floppies in a box in my storage room, probably from early 1995. The oldest Red Hat product I have is Red Hat Linux 3.0.3 on CD, from 1996. Since a lot of systems then didn't boot from CD (or didn't even have CD), the CD set included the floppy images that you could also use to install.
Thank you for your post. Reason I was looking for CD was my incorrect assumption that it might have been available. I did locate some floppy images on the web.
On 02/26/2015 03:59 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 02/26/2015 03:43 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 26.02.2015, Dave Stevens wrote:
was it even on CD? My first slackware came from walnut creek on diskettes (20 of 'em!)
I second that!
mine was a slackware CD.. 2.4 ? 1996??
The date is close enough to original release. Do you still have the CD? Perhaps you can upload the ISO to somewhere like pastebin or yousendit ?
Thanx!
JD
On 02/26/2015 04:37 AM, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
Hi
Just to put my own 10 cents worth in here. I went to Manchester Computing Centre throughout the 90's. At that time Dr Owen Le Blanc was writing some early code for the GNU/Linux kernel. He was in touch with Linus a lot of the time...
http://people.man.ac.uk/~zlsiial/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCC_Interim_Linux
I helped Owen and some other people to start ManLUG which is still running today. www.manlug.org. The rest is history. Over the years I've spent many happy hours flying around the world promoting GNU/Linux by writing for magazines.
It's been fun :)
Lucky YOU!!! Not everyone gets to be a pioneer of the most successful opens source movement.
On 02/26/2015 04:47 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 26.02.2015, Jim Lewis wrote:
Well there is no way it was on CD, we didn't have those yet.
It was on floppy disks. I remember clearly, because I reformatted them some time ago, in need for empty disks to check an external floppy disk drive.
I was able to locate the earliest CD iso. It was issued by Yggdrasil. It comes with the iso and a floppy image. Packaged together a tar file. I uploaded it to https://www.sendspace.com/file/yl5fa0 because the original URL is apparently too slow to handle large traffic.
Cheers,
JD
On Feb 25, 2015 8:25 PM, "jd1008" jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
People have mentioned having CDs and floppies, but no links so far, so...
Here's some information about running Slackware 1.01 in a virtual machine, complete with floppy image links: http:// http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/ blog.nielshorn.net http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi//2009/06/ http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/older- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/slackware- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/versions-vi http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi// http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
The earliest CD image I could find is for Slackware 3.2: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.2-iso/
From the Red Hat/Fedora side, the earliest floppy image I could find is
from Red Hat Linux 4.2: http:// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img archive.download.redhat.com http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img /pub/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img redhat http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img / http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img linux http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img /4.2/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img en http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img / http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img os http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img /i386/images/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img boot.img http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img
There's lots of partial content and the root of that URL for earlier releases, but AFAICT RH didn't make floppy images publicly downloadable before then; the directories where they would be seem to be all empty.
The earliest CD images available are for 6.2: http:// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/ archive.download.redhat.com http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso//pub/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/redhat http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/linux http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso//6.2/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/en http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/iso http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
I guess I'm a real youngster compared to everyone else, because I didn't join the party till a little bit later, when a friend of my dad's (I was really a youngster at the time!) handed me a copy of Red Hat Linux 7 for Dummies complete with CDs in the back cover. (Thankfully he had good choice in friends, had he instead handed me a copy of the also recently released Windows 2000 things might have ended up much differently. :-)
My poor old Gateway couldn't run Windows 98 without blue screening every 5 minutes, but damn if it didn't run that thing flawlessly. (It even made it to Fedora 2 before it finally gave the ghost!) The included copy of Netscape Navigator 4 left much to be desired, but I quickly discovered early milestones of this Mozilla Suite thing which worked much better, despite all the scary warnings Netscape had plastered all over Mozilla.org at the time.
-T.C.
On 02/26/2015 01:35 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Feb 25, 2015 8:25 PM, "jd1008" <jd1008@gmail.com mailto:jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/
and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/
http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
People have mentioned having CDs and floppies, but no links so far, so...
Here's some information about running Slackware 1.01 in a virtual machine, complete with floppy image links: http:// http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/blog.nielshorn.net http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi//2009/06/ http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/older- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/slackware- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/versions-vi http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi// http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
The earliest CD image I could find is for Slackware 3.2: http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.2-iso/
From the Red Hat/Fedora side, the earliest floppy image I could find is from Red Hat Linux 4.2: http:// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.imgarchive.download.redhat.com http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img/pub/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.imgredhat http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.imglinux http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img/4.2/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.imgen http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.imgos http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img/i386/images/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.imgboot.img http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/boot.img
There's lots of partial content and the root of that URL for earlier releases, but AFAICT RH didn't make floppy images publicly downloadable before then; the directories where they would be seem to be all empty.
The earliest CD images available are for 6.2: http:// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/archive.download.redhat.com http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso//pub/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/redhat http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/linux http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso//6.2/ http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/en http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/iso http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso// http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
I guess I'm a real youngster compared to everyone else, because I didn't join the party till a little bit later, when a friend of my dad's (I was really a youngster at the time!) handed me a copy of Red Hat Linux 7 for Dummies complete with CDs in the back cover. (Thankfully he had good choice in friends, had he instead handed me a copy of the also recently released Windows 2000 things might have ended up much differently. :-)
My poor old Gateway couldn't run Windows 98 without blue screening every 5 minutes, but damn if it didn't run that thing flawlessly. (It even made it to Fedora 2 before it finally gave the ghost!) The included copy of Netscape Navigator 4 left much to be desired, but I quickly discovered early milestones of this Mozilla Suite thing which worked much better, despite all the scary warnings Netscape had plastered all over Mozilla.org at the time.
-T.C.
Thank you TC. I went ahead and downloaded the early slackware.
Cheers,
JD
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 01:35:33PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Feb 25, 2015 8:25 PM, "jd1008" <[1]jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
I found [2] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and [3] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and [4] http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
People have mentioned having CDs and floppies, but no links so far, so...
I have (I'm sure I do, though I don't have it in my hand at this second) a CD containing Slackware 2.1, which comes with a 1.1.59 kernel (1.1.59 being a development, not production, kernel--but it ran fine for me for 2 or 3 years before I acquired a RH 3.x or maybe it was 4.x.)
I ran it on my screaming 40 Mhz AMD 386 whitebox system where it ran very nicely.
Here's some information about running Slackware 1.01 in a virtual machine, complete with floppy image links: [5]http://%5B6%5Dblog.nielshorn.net%5B7%5D/2009/06/%5B8%5Dolder-%5B9%5Dslackwar... rsions-vi[11]/
The earliest CD image I could find is for Slackware 3.2: [12]http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.2-iso/
From the Red Hat/Fedora side, the earliest floppy image I could find is from Red Hat Linux 4.2: [13]http://%5B14%5Darchive.download.redhat.com%5B15%5D/pub/%5B16%5Dredhat%5B17%5... inux[19]/4.2/[20]en[21]/[22]os[23]/i386/images/[24]boot.img
There's lots of partial content and the root of that URL for earlier releases, but AFAICT RH didn't make floppy images publicly downloadable before then; the directories where they would be seem to be all empty.
The earliest CD images available are for 6.2: [25]http://%5B26%5Darchive.download.redhat.com%5B27%5D/pub/%5B28%5Dredhat%5B29%5... inux[31]/6.2/[32]en[33]/[34]iso[35]/
I guess I'm a real youngster compared to everyone else, because I didn't join the party till a little bit later, when a friend of my dad's (I was really a youngster at the time!) handed me a copy of Red Hat Linux 7 for Dummies complete with CDs in the back cover. (Thankfully he had good choice in friends, had he instead handed me a copy of the also recently released Windows 2000 things might have ended up much differently. :-)
My poor old Gateway couldn't run Windows 98 without blue screening every 5 minutes, but damn if it didn't run that thing flawlessly. (It even made it to Fedora 2 before it finally gave the ghost!) The included copy of Netscape Navigator 4 left much to be desired, but I quickly discovered early milestones of this Mozilla Suite thing which worked much better, despite all the scary warnings Netscape had plastered all over Mozilla.org at the time.
-T.C.
References
- mailto:jd1008@gmail.com
- https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/
- https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/
- http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.2-iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
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On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 01:35:33PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
On Feb 25, 2015 8:25 PM, "jd1008" <[1]jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
I found [2] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and [3] https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and [4] http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
People have mentioned having CDs and floppies, but no links so far, so...
And I meant to mention in my last mail that I THINK (not direct knowledge) that SLS (Soft Landing Systems) may have been the first to ship a complete integrated system, though I think it may have been on a huge pile of floppies instead of a CDROM.
Fred
Here's some information about running Slackware 1.01 in a virtual machine, complete with floppy image links: [5]http://%5B6%5Dblog.nielshorn.net%5B7%5D/2009/06/%5B8%5Dolder-%5B9%5Dslackwar... rsions-vi[11]/
The earliest CD image I could find is for Slackware 3.2: [12]http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.2-iso/
From the Red Hat/Fedora side, the earliest floppy image I could find is from Red Hat Linux 4.2: [13]http://%5B14%5Darchive.download.redhat.com%5B15%5D/pub/%5B16%5Dredhat%5B17%5... inux[19]/4.2/[20]en[21]/[22]os[23]/i386/images/[24]boot.img
There's lots of partial content and the root of that URL for earlier releases, but AFAICT RH didn't make floppy images publicly downloadable before then; the directories where they would be seem to be all empty.
The earliest CD images available are for 6.2: [25]http://%5B26%5Darchive.download.redhat.com%5B27%5D/pub/%5B28%5Dredhat%5B29%5... inux[31]/6.2/[32]en[33]/[34]iso[35]/
I guess I'm a real youngster compared to everyone else, because I didn't join the party till a little bit later, when a friend of my dad's (I was really a youngster at the time!) handed me a copy of Red Hat Linux 7 for Dummies complete with CDs in the back cover. (Thankfully he had good choice in friends, had he instead handed me a copy of the also recently released Windows 2000 things might have ended up much differently. :-)
My poor old Gateway couldn't run Windows 98 without blue screening every 5 minutes, but damn if it didn't run that thing flawlessly. (It even made it to Fedora 2 before it finally gave the ghost!) The included copy of Netscape Navigator 4 left much to be desired, but I quickly discovered early milestones of this Mozilla Suite thing which worked much better, despite all the scary warnings Netscape had plastered all over Mozilla.org at the time.
-T.C.
References
- mailto:jd1008@gmail.com
- https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/
- https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/
- http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://blog.nielshorn.net/2009/06/older-slackware-versions-vi/
- http://slackware.cs.utah.edu/pub/slackware/slackware-3.2-iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
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- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
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- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/4.2/en/os/i386/images/bo...
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
- http://archive.download.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/6.2/en/iso/
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Once upon a time, Fred Smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us said:
And I meant to mention in my last mail that I THINK (not direct knowledge) that SLS (Soft Landing Systems) may have been the first to ship a complete integrated system, though I think it may have been on a huge pile of floppies instead of a CDROM.
I'm pretty sure MCC Interim Linux and maybe TAMU pre-date SLS.
On 26.02.2015 19:37, jd1008 wrote:
On 02/26/2015 04:37 AM, Richard Ibbotson wrote:
Hi
Just to put my own 10 cents worth in here. I went to Manchester Computing Centre throughout the 90's. At that time Dr Owen Le Blanc was writing some early code for the GNU/Linux kernel. He was in touch with Linus a lot of the time...
http://people.man.ac.uk/~zlsiial/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCC_Interim_Linux
I helped Owen and some other people to start ManLUG which is still running today. www.manlug.org. The rest is history. Over the years I've spent many happy hours flying around the world promoting GNU/Linux by writing for magazines.
It's been fun :)
Lucky YOU!!! Not everyone gets to be a pioneer of the most successful opens source movement.
Never too late, you can start pioneering with Linux 4.0.
On 02/26/2015 10:31 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 01:35:33PM -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote:
People have mentioned having CDs and floppies, but no links so far, so...And I meant to mention in my last mail that I THINK (not direct knowledge) that SLS (Soft Landing Systems) may have been the first to ship a complete integrated system, though I think it may have been on a huge pile of floppies instead of a CDROM.
Depends on your definition of "complete integrated system".
Of those Linux "distros" I've used, SLS was the first, I'd nowadays call a "distro". It was an ever growing "pile of floppies" :)
However, I recall having played with a "4 floppy" Linux, which to my recollection came from Linus, but now that somebody else in this thread mentioned HJLu, I believe was his works - But this wasn't a "distro" in today's meaning.
Yggdrasil, Walnut Creek, Slackware, ... RH, Debian ... SuSE all came years later.
Ralf
On 02/26/2015 04:47 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 26.02.2015, Jim Lewis wrote:
Well there is no way it was on CD, we didn't have those yet.
It was on floppy disks. I remember clearly, because I reformatted them some time ago, in need for empty disks to check an external floppy disk drive.
I was able to locate the earliest CD iso. It was issued by Yggdrasil. It comes with the iso and a floppy image. Packaged together a tar file. I uploaded it to https://www.sendspace.com/file/yl5fa0 because the original URL is apparently too slow to handle large traffic.
If that turns out to be bad, I have a copy here someplace. (As well as a number of OLD versions of Linux. The problem of being a digital packrat.)
On 02/25/2015 09:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/historic-linux/distributions/
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 14:38 -0800, alan@clueserver.org wrote:
If that turns out to be bad, I have a copy here someplace. (As well as a number of OLD versions of Linux. The problem of being a digital packrat.)
But, but, but... What about the two-inch-thick *ix manuals? ;-)
On 02/26/2015 03:38 PM, alan@clueserver.org wrote:
On 02/26/2015 04:47 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
On 26.02.2015, Jim Lewis wrote:
Well there is no way it was on CD, we didn't have those yet.
It was on floppy disks. I remember clearly, because I reformatted them some time ago, in need for empty disks to check an external floppy disk drive.
I was able to locate the earliest CD iso. It was issued by Yggdrasil. It comes with the iso and a floppy image. Packaged together a tar file. I uploaded it to https://www.sendspace.com/file/yl5fa0 because the original URL is apparently too slow to handle large traffic.
If that turns out to be bad, I have a copy here someplace. (As well as a number of OLD versions of Linux. The problem of being a digital packrat.)
By all means - if you find it, upload it somewhere and provide us with the URL.
Cheers,
JD
On 02/26/2015 04:11 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:
On 02/25/2015 09:24 PM, jd1008 wrote:
I found https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/ and https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/Historic/old-versions/ and http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html
But I cannot find any first CD iso releases.
Thanx! I will save the link.
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 15:36 -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
I'm pretty sure MCC Interim Linux and maybe TAMU pre-date SLS.
According to this, you are correct:
Woogie