Hi All,
Fedora 41.
I have tried both PDF Studio and Master PDF Editor.
PDF Studio does not support RPM and has bad tech support
Master PDF Editor supports RPM, has responsive tech support, although they are not real helpful at times, and has all kinds of print problems, such as not supporting duel sided printing (it is there but does not work, despite their promises to fix it) and the print preview does not match the actual print.
Only Office supports RPM and does print correctly, but it is awkward to use and has ton of bugs.
Libre Office supports RPM but is bug city on PDF's (Draw)
You guy know of a good PDF editor that you like?
Many thanks, -T
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 12:03 PM ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41.
I have tried both PDF Studio and Master PDF Editor.
PDF Studio does not support RPM and has bad tech support
Master PDF Editor supports RPM, has responsive tech support, although they are not real helpful at times, and has all kinds of print problems, such as not supporting duel sided printing (it is there but does not work, despite their promises to fix it) and the print preview does not match the actual print.
Only Office supports RPM and does print correctly, but it is awkward to use and has ton of bugs.
Libre Office supports RPM but is bug city on PDF's (Draw)
You guy know of a good PDF editor that you like?
PDF was not intended to support arbitrary edits. Two documents that give the same print output may be quite different internally, so choosing an editor really depends on how the PDF was created. In some cases I have used OCR to recover text from PDF's (scanned line printer output data from the punched-card era).
On 2025-02-10 11:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41.
I have tried both PDF Studio and Master PDF Editor.
(...stuff nuked...)
You guy know of a good PDF editor that you like?
The latest version of Firefox for Windows advertises its ability to edit PDF's. I have not test it though.
Perhaps the latest version of Firefox for Linux would offer the same functionality. It might be worth investigating.
Cheers Frank
On 12/2/25 05:35, Frank Bures wrote:
On 2025-02-10 11:02, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41.
I have tried both PDF Studio and Master PDF Editor.
(...stuff nuked...)
You guy know of a good PDF editor that you like?
The latest version of Firefox for Windows advertises its ability to edit PDF's. I have not test it though.
Perhaps the latest version of Firefox for Linux would offer the same functionality. It might be worth investigating.
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
regards, Steve
Cheers Frank
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:13 PM Stephen Morris steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
I think I heard about it through a Moziila newsletter:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 11:19 PM Ted Roche tedroche@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:13 PM Stephen Morris steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
I think I heard about it through a Moziila newsletter:
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/features/pdf-editor/
It works for me on Fedora 40 with Firefox 134.0.1 (64-bit). Thank you very much for the info.
greg
On 2025-02-11 17:12, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 12/2/25 05:35, Frank Bures wrote:
The latest version of Firefox for Windows advertises its ability to edit PDF's. I have not test it though.
Perhaps the latest version of Firefox for Linux would offer the same functionality. It might be worth investigating.
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
Firefox advertises it in its "What's New" tab after update in Windows. As I said, I have not tested it.
Cheers Frank
On 2/11/25 4:45 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 12:03 PM ToddAndMargo via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41.
I have tried both PDF Studio and Master PDF Editor.
PDF Studio does not support RPM and has bad tech support
Master PDF Editor supports RPM, has responsive tech support, although they are not real helpful at times, and has all kinds of print problems, such as not supporting duel sided printing (it is there but does not work, despite their promises to fix it) and the print preview does not match the actual print.
Only Office supports RPM and does print correctly, but it is awkward to use and has ton of bugs.
Libre Office supports RPM but is bug city on PDF's (Draw)
You guy know of a good PDF editor that you like?
PDF was not intended to support arbitrary edits. Two documents that give the same print output may be quite different internally, so choosing an editor really depends on how the PDF was created. In some cases I have used OCR to recover text from PDF's (scanned line printer output data from the punched-card era).
My problems with Master PDF Editor are mainly with printing, which is a deal killer. Other than that it works well
On 2/11/25 2:19 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:13 PM Stephen Morris steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
I think I heard about it through a Moziila newsletter:
This is online. I am after a local editor that can't be spied on.
On Mon, 2025-02-10 at 08:02 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Master PDF Editor supports RPM, has responsive tech support, although they are not real helpful at times, and has all kinds of print problems, such as not supporting duel sided printing (it is there but does not work, despite their promises to fix it) and the print preview does not match the actual print.
You probably need to expand more on this, and your problem.
What way does the preview differ from the print? Is it more than just scaling?
That's a particular peeve of mine, when you design something so that it prints a 4 by 6 cm object, and you used real dimensions in the editor, you want it printed at that size, and not have the entire page scaled down to fit inside *that* printer's page margins. I'm aware there are options to do that kind of thing, but I've not used them.
Doubled-sided printing is a pain. "Duel" printing is very apt. Usually the option to use it is there, but unavailable. Sometimes it's not there, at all. *Sometimes* the option is there, and selectable. Sometimes the damned printer prints in double-sided, despite your wishes. I have a HP3015 office printer, hardly an obscure device. It ought to be well supported by now.
And what do you mean by editing? Are you modifying existing pages? Are you creating something from new? Are you printing PDF forms? (The user adds some fill-in-the-blanks details to a prepared form.) Are you joining pages together?
On 12/02/2025 11:45, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 2/11/25 2:19 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:13 PM Stephen Morris steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
I think I heard about it through a Moziila newsletter:
This is online. I am after a local editor that can't be spied on.
For what it's worth I use Xournal to modify existing PDF and send them back. The main problem I see is that PDF are made from specific editor and editing them requires the PDF editor to be format-aware to work seamlessly..
I believe Inkscape also can edit PDF too. I do use it as well sometimes.
Fred
On 2/11/25 10:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2025-02-10 at 08:02 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Master PDF Editor supports RPM, has responsive tech support, although they are not real helpful at times, and has all kinds of print problems, such as not supporting duel sided printing (it is there but does not work, despite their promises to fix it) and the print preview does not match the actual print.
You probably need to expand more on this, and your problem.
What way does the preview differ from the print? Is it more than just scaling?
That's a particular peeve of mine, when you design something so that it prints a 4 by 6 cm object, and you used real dimensions in the editor, you want it printed at that size, and not have the entire page scaled down to fit inside *that* printer's page margins. I'm aware there are options to do that kind of thing, but I've not used them.
Doubled-sided printing is a pain. "Duel" printing is very apt. Usually the option to use it is there, but unavailable. Sometimes it's not there, at all. *Sometimes* the option is there, and selectable. Sometimes the damned printer prints in double-sided, despite your wishes. I have a HP3015 office printer, hardly an obscure device. It ought to be well supported by now.
And what do you mean by editing? Are you modifying existing pages? Are you creating something from new? Are you printing PDF forms? (The user adds some fill-in-the-blanks details to a prepared form.) Are you joining pages together?
I am mainly filling in tax forms and scanning in tax paperwork to PDF
On 2/11/25 8:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 2/11/25 2:19 PM, Ted Roche wrote:
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 5:13 PM Stephen Morris steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Frank, where did you find that information? I'm on Firefox Nightly 137 and I can't see anything in it's menus relative to pdf's.
I think I heard about it through a Moziila newsletter:
This is online. I am after a local editor that can't be spied on.
It's not "online" in the way you mean. They're using that term because most people wouldn't understand. You're editing locally in the browser, it's not going anywhere else unless you send it.
On Wed, 2025-02-12 at 12:15 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I am mainly filling in tax forms and scanning in tax paperwork to PDF
I seem to remember just using Evince to fill in the blanks in some forms, and it'd generate a ready-to-send/print PDF.
And my ordinary scanning software was quite capable of putting scans into a PDF. I hadn't looked at doing OCR with that, too. As far as I was concerned that aspect was "not my problem." Let *them* deal with that pain.
Actually, trying to make any PDF coherent in that fashion is fraught with problems. They like to construct the things in seemingly random columns of text.
Various things that generate multi-purpose PDFs with a printable or readable version for people to look at, and a quite separately embedded data for machine assessment.
If I wanted any separate PDFs joined into one, I used the pdfunite command line tool. Though my scanning software was quite happy to keep adding scanned pages into one PDF file.
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