Upgrade from F16 to F17 and F17 to future F18

[Rafnews]

Hi,

i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to know
what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ?
is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like "upgrade" ?
if not, is something like that planned in F17 to upgrade to F18 ?

thx.

[Temlakos]

On 10/22/2012 10:53 AM, Alain Roger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to 
> know what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ?
> is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like 
> "upgrade" ?
> if not, is something like that planned in F17 to upgrade to F18 ?
>
> thx.
>
> -- 
> Alain
>
> Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 16 x64
> MySQL 5.5.24
> Apache 2.4.2
> PHP 5.4.3

When you put in an F17 live spin or network install disk, it offers you 
the option to upgrade an existing Fedora installation, so long as it's 
not too far back. F16 will let you upgrade.

But you can *also* do a *clean* install, *if* you have thought to 
partition your disk so that:

/boot is a separate physical partition, at least 500 MB in size.

/home is a separate physical or Logical Value partition from / (root) 
and "swap."

That way, you can at least keep your data while you clean out the OS and 
your applications. I had to upgrade from F14. I used a KDE live spin, 
and then a fast Internet connection to do about 300-plus app upgrades.

Now if you haven't done that, then if you have two machines, you can 
always transfer your data to one, which will hold it while you 
clean-install F17 on the other and can then move your data back.

Or, if you have an on-line backup, you can restore your data from that.

Temlakos

[Rafnews]

Hi Temlakos,

you are talking about data like during upgrade they were wipe out....
should i understand that upgrade to F17 wipe out all users' data ?
is upgrade to F17 not only upgrade system files ?

A.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Temlakos  wrote:
> On 10/22/2012 10:53 AM, Alain Roger wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to know
> what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ?
> is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like "upgrade" ?
> if not, is something like that planned in F17 to upgrade to F18 ?
>
> thx.
>
> --
> Alain
>
> Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 16 x64
> MySQL 5.5.24
> Apache 2.4.2
> PHP 5.4.3
>
> When you put in an F17 live spin or network install disk, it offers you
> the option to upgrade an existing Fedora installation, so long as it's not
> too far back. F16 will let you upgrade.
>
> But you can *also* do a *clean* install, *if* you have thought to
> partition your disk so that:
>
> /boot is a separate physical partition, at least 500 MB in size.
>
> /home is a separate physical or Logical Value partition from / (root) and
> "swap."
>
> That way, you can at least keep your data while you clean out the OS and
> your applications. I had to upgrade from F14. I used a KDE live spin, and
> then a fast Internet connection to do about 300-plus app upgrades.
>
> Now if you haven't done that, then if you have two machines, you can
> always transfer your data to one, which will hold it while you
> clean-install F17 on the other and can then move your data back.
>
> Or, if you have an on-line backup, you can restore your data from that.
>
> Temlakos
>
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[Temlakos]

Replied at bottom of post, as per the proper form:

On 10/22/2012 11:10 AM, Alain Roger wrote:
> Hi Temlakos,
>
> you are talking about data like during upgrade they were wipe out.... 
> should i understand that upgrade to F17 wipe out all users' data ?
> is upgrade to F17 not only upgrade system files ?
>
> A.
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Temlakos <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> On 10/22/2012 10:53 AM, Alain Roger wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like
> > to know what is the best solution to upgrade it to F17 ?
> > is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like
> > "upgrade" ?
> > if not, is something like that planned in F17 to upgrade to F18 ?
> >
> > thx.
> >
> > -- 
> > Alain
> > -----------------------------------------------------------
> > Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 16 x64
> > MySQL 5.5.24
> > Apache 2.4.2
> > PHP 5.4.3
> When you put in an F17 live spin or network install disk, it
> offers you the option to upgrade an existing Fedora installation,
> so long as it's not too far back. F16 will let you upgrade.
>
> But you can *also* do a *clean* install, *if* you have thought to
> partition your disk so that:
>
> /boot is a separate physical partition, at least 500 MB in size.
>
> /home is a separate physical or Logical Value partition from /
> (root) and "swap."
>
> That way, you can at least keep your data while you clean out the
> OS and your applications. I had to upgrade from F14. I used a KDE
> live spin, and then a fast Internet connection to do about
> 300-plus app upgrades.
>
> Now if you haven't done that, then if you have two machines, you
> can always transfer your data to one, which will hold it while you
> clean-install F17 on the other and can then move your data back.
>
> Or, if you have an on-line backup, you can restore your data from
> that.
>
> Temlakos
>
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Alain
>
> Windows 7 x64 / Fedora 16 x64
> MySQL 5.5.24
> Apache 2.4.2
> PHP 5.4.3
> C# 2005-2008

A clean install includes the option to format the disk. Formatting 
destroys all data. And in fact, a clean install /must/ format the root, 
swap, and boot directories; else it is not clean. I'm trying to describe 
how to save your home directory and its contents. There is where your 
data resides. Format that, and you lose your data.

But if you have partitioned your disk as I described it above, you can 
avoid formatting the home directory. Thus you can save your data.

Temlakos

[Joe Zeff]

On 10/22/2012 08:01 AM, Temlakos wrote:
> When you put in an F17 live spin or network install disk, it offers you
> the option to upgrade an existing Fedora installation, so long as it's
> not too far back. F16 will let you upgrade.

Or, of course, you can install and run preupgrade.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 22.10.2012 16:53, schrieb Alain Roger:
> Hi,
>
> i have an old Fedora 16 installed on a computer and i would like to know what is the best solution to upgrade it to
> F17 ?
> is there a standard process or a simple and magical button like "upgrade" ?
> if not, is something like that planned in F17 to upgrade to F18 ?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_16_-.3E_Fedo...

done on 29 machines until now

22 of them are virtual machines and clones from the same master
originally installed with F9 in summer 2008

2 of them are RAID1-boot/RAID10-data (4x2 TB) HP 8200 Elite
originally installed with F14 and acting as router/firewall

1 of them is a HP 8200 Elite with 2x1TB RAID1 as router/firewall

the rest are several virtual machines for testing