Has system.config-users been discontinued with FC31?

[Erik P. Olsen]

I can't find system-config-users in FC31. Is there a replacement for it?

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Erik P. Olsen - Copenhagen, Denmark
Fedora 30/64 bit Linux xfce Claws-Mail POP3 Gramps 5.1.1

[Tom Horsley]

On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 23:33:25 +0100
Erik P. Olsen wrote:

>  I can't find system-config-users in FC31. Is there a replacement
> for it?
>   
In fedora 30 I seem to have system-config-users-1.3.8-6.fc29.noarch
installed. Perhaps it works on 31 as well.

Certainly the gnome-control-center users app is utterly
worthless with about a zillion missing features.

I've pretty much taken to using the command line tools
for everything (hopefully they won't go away).

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 2019-10-30 at 18:55:22 Tom Horsley wrote:

>  On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 23:33:25 +0100
>  Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>  
>  > I can't find system-config-users in FC31. Is there a replacement for it?
>  >   
>  
>  In fedora 30 I seem to have system-config-users-1.3.8-6.fc29.noarch
>  installed. Perhaps it works on 31 as well.
>  
>  Certainly the gnome-control-center users app is utterly
>  worthless with about a zillion missing features.
>  
>  I've pretty much taken to using the command line tools
>  for everything (hopefully they won't go away). 
It's python2 dependant so it wont install on FC31.

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Erik P. Olsen - Copenhagen, Denmark
Fedora 30/64 bit Linux xfce Claws-Mail POP3 Gramps 5.1.1

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 00:16 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>  On 2019-10-30 at 18:55:22 Tom Horsley wrote:
>  
>  > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 23:33:25 +0100
>  > Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>  > 
>  > > I can't find system-config-users in FC31. Is there a replacement for it?
>  > >   
>  > 
>  > In fedora 30 I seem to have system-config-users-1.3.8-6.fc29.noarch
>  > installed. Perhaps it works on 31 as well.
>  > 
>  > Certainly the gnome-control-center users app is utterly
>  > worthless with about a zillion missing features.
>  > 
>  > I've pretty much taken to using the command line tools
>  > for everything (hopefully they won't go away).
>  
>  It's python2 dependant so it wont install on FC31. 
Are you referring to gnome-control-center or specifically to the users
app? If it's g-c-c that would be a deal-breaker for me as I need it to
be able to run Evolution under KDE.

poc

[Erik P. Olsen]

On 2019-10-31 at 08:57:18 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

>  On Thu, 2019-10-31 at 00:16 +0100, Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>  > On 2019-10-30 at 18:55:22 Tom Horsley wrote:
>  >   
>  > > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 23:33:25 +0100
>  > > Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>  > >   
>  > > > I can't find system-config-users in FC31. Is there a replacement for
> it?
>  > > >     
>  > > 
>  > > In fedora 30 I seem to have system-config-users-1.3.8-6.fc29.noarch
>  > > installed. Perhaps it works on 31 as well.
>  > > 
>  > > Certainly the gnome-control-center users app is utterly
>  > > worthless with about a zillion missing features.
>  > > 
>  > > I've pretty much taken to using the command line tools
>  > > for everything (hopefully they won't go away).  
>  > 
>  > It's python2 dependant so it wont install on FC31.  
>  
>  Are you referring to gnome-control-center or specifically to the users
>  app? If it's g-c-c that would be a deal-breaker for me as I need it to
>  be able to run Evolution under KDE.
>   
No. I've been porting system-config-users from previous versions to the next but now
it
wont work that way any longer. And it is not gnome-control-center.

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[stan]

On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:28:02 +0100
"Erik P. Olsen" <epodata(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  No. I've been porting system-config-users from previous versions
> to
>  the next but now it wont work that way any longer. And it is not
>  gnome-control-center. 
Yes.  In koji, it has FTBFS (failed to build from source) for two
releases, F30 and F31, probably because build dependencies have
disappeared, so it has been retired (removed from the distro).

I took a quick look at this.  It depends on pygtk2 (python2), so it
needs to be ported to python3 and gtk3 (there is a python3 package
for gtk3, but its name isn't obvious like python3-gtk3, so I can't find
it at the moment).  I'm not familiar enough with gtk to know how much
work this would be, but I presume it isn't trivial substitution.

Or it needs an exception, because at the end of this year python2 is
EOL from upstream, though it will continue to be maintained in Fedora
for a while to allow time to transition applications to python3.  

But for both of these, it would have to go through the new package
process to be added back to the distro by a maintainer now that it is
removed.