On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 09:19, Bob Goodwin <bobgoodwin(a)fastmail.us> wrote:
On 2020-09-29 23:03, Tim via users wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 11:58 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
>> I just want to get the filed off this thing and will consider it an
>> error in my judgement. I bought an overpriced 4TB hard drive that I
>> will use elsewhere and happily toss the WD My Cloud housing in the
> The idea of a small network storage device sounds good to a lot of
> people, myself included. But you soon find these things are annoying
> to use in various ways.
You also find that the design features change with time. This one no
longer exists so those changes not a concern for me. It could not be
disassembled as shewn in a video I found on line. We used a band saw to
slice off three edges since the circuit board does not simply slide out
once the end cover is pied off, the remainder is just removal of screws,
leaving what appears to be atypical desktop drive.
Sometimes these appliances have drives with custom firmware, so it
would be a good idea to see if the model is one that has been sold to
consumers, and also see if smartmontools recognizes the drive.
I need to find the external housing I plan on using to run it rather
than put it in a computer at this time.
There is a wide range of quality in external housings. Some have
shoddy USB controllers and power supplies that don't last and can't
be replaced without hacking cables and connectors.
Much of my computer stuff is
stored in the attic since a new hardwood floor installation project and
I need help finding things so that may have to wait until others return
from vacation in a few days.
/I have other things that should work however Apple reuses to work with
NFS leaving Samba the best option I have it seems. From my experience
the best Samba related storage scheme is the router with it's USB port.
I have never been able to make that work on the ASUS router I'm using
presently. I intend to deal with that next./
By "Apple" do you mean iOS or macOS? macOS does have NFS (Apple uses
BSD's implementation) as well as Apple's own Windows file sharing
client/server that works with Samba. Recent versions of the iOS Files App
to be able to connect to SMB servers. It may be useful to know that iOS
mount external USB drives, and that 14 added APFS encrypted drive support.
> If you have a full computer running 24/7 as a server, you're better off
> to add a big data-only drive to it, and use it. At least you can make
> an ordinary Linux install do what you want it to.
> I don't know why they call these little boxes cloud servers. You can't
> run software on them, they're just storage. Well, you can hack them.
> But the idea of cloud computing was that you could start running
> something on one cloud device, then float it over to another device on
> demand. These things can't do that.
>> The Apple iPhone does not keep the original file in memory long
>> enough to extract it to the Mycloud. I assume that is done to save
>> memory in the mobile device, it sends the original image to their
>> iCloud server and leaves smaller thumbnails in memory.
> That's probably configurable, or ought to be.
The equipment may be reconfigurable but the users may not be. From my
observations there are enough difficulties in getting the user systems
working as they want them to that they wont change what works for them.
i have met resistance there.
Yes -- Apple seems to attract users who just want to do things and not mess
> It should be possible to configure the cloud device into a reasonable
> configuration (so long as they haven't taken away features, which is
> why some people don't let them auto-update their firmware).
> Once you know the IP for the device, you can simply open that address
> in your webbrowser and use the device's in-built webserver to change
> the settings. If you wade around, you'll find NFS, SSH, FTP, and other
> options you can switch on. I turned off lots of useless things, to me,
> like itunes, media servers, etc., to stop it wasting time indexing the
The ip's are assigned by the router dhcp server and are always known.
before yesterday's actions, there was access through my browser and WD's
Mycloud server somewhere and with a lot of fiddling I could display
trial images I had stored on the the unit on my desk, it was horribly
slow and erratic in operation, of no use to me.
> They tend to stick everything in a Public folder where everyone can
> read and write to. If you set up individual users, you can have
> personal storage spaces in their own names. However, you often find
> they still have read/write permissions for everyone. They rely on
> intermediate serving software to apply access restrictions in the
My needs would be satisfied wit everything in a Public partition, they
can create their own sub directories and put stuff where they like, it
is all family users and no outside internet connection. It should be
easy to use for all users ...
The weak point with external drives is the "system board" and power
supply. An internal drive in a robust server is less prone to fail at
awkward times. You might want to look into an external RAID (usually
decent quality hardware) or a second drive used to backup the primary.
George N. White III