does FC2 support NTFS ?

[Kali]

hi all,

does FC2 support NTFS ?   i want to acess the windows 'D' drive {i can
access 'C" using the mount command but not my backup partition D
drive} which is currently on another Hard disk  using a SATA Intel
Motherboard. FC2 is in the old HD. {{ Btw, windows has crashed (not
surprising at all) and hence the long route }}

Second problem is that the mozilla browser has also gone kaput and
does not load. How do i set it right ? Please be kind as i am quet new
to the *nix world :-)
thanks for your time, 
Kali

[Mark Haney]

On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 15:46, Kali wrote:
> hi all,
>
> does FC2 support NTFS ?   i want to acess the windows 'D' drive {i can
> access 'C" using the mount command but not my backup partition D
> drive} which is currently on another Hard disk  using a SATA Intel
> Motherboard. FC2 is in the old HD. {{ Btw, windows has crashed (not
> surprising at all) and hence the long route }}

Yes, using the linux-ntfs module from linux-ntfs.sf.net.  Works great.
> Second problem is that the mozilla browser has also gone kaput and
> does not load. How do i set it right ? Please be kind as i am quet new
> to the *nix world :-)
> thanks for your time, 
> Kali

What does, 'does not load' mean?  Can you give more detail?  What do the
log files say?

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[Aly Dharshi]

No it doesn't out of the box, you can either download the NTFS based kernel from 
  http://linux-ntfs.sf.net or you could use something like knoppix to do the 
trick for you. It will be mounted in read only mode by default.

Please provide more info about what exactly has happened to make your mozilla go 
belly up. So indicate the steps that you performed to lead you to the thought 
that mozilla is kaput :) :)

Aly.

Kali wrote:
> hi all,
>
> does FC2 support NTFS ?   i want to acess the windows 'D' drive {i can
> access 'C" using the mount command but not my backup partition D
> drive} which is currently on another Hard disk  using a SATA Intel
> Motherboard. FC2 is in the old HD. {{ Btw, windows has crashed (not
> surprising at all) and hence the long route }}
>
> Second problem is that the mozilla browser has also gone kaput and
> does not load. How do i set it right ? Please be kind as i am quet new
> to the *nix world :-)
> thanks for your time, 
> Kali

[Thorsten Leemhuis]

Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2004, 15:46 -0400 schrieb Kali:
> hi all,
>
> does FC2 support NTFS ?

There is now also a kernel-module-ntfs package in testing at
rpm.livna.org

HTH

CU
thl

[Marc M]

On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:46:04 -0400, Kali  wrote:
> hi all,
>
> does FC2 support NTFS ?   i want to acess the windows 'D' drive {i can
> access 'C" using the mount command but not my backup partition D
> drive} which is currently on another Hard disk  using a SATA Intel
> Motherboard. FC2 is in the old HD. {{ Btw, windows has crashed (not
> surprising at all) and hence the long route }}
>
> Second problem is that the mozilla browser has also gone kaput and
> does not load. How do i set it right ? Please be kind as i am quet new
> to the *nix world :-)
> thanks for your time,
> Kali
>
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I know RHEL3 does, and believe FC as well supports NTFS partitions as
read-only.   So the support is pretty limited.  What errors are you
getting when you try to do the mount?
Is the box detecting both drives?  It is possible that the drive is
not being detected well in that configuration because of the jumpers
and the master/slave configuration on the drives.  One option might be
to get a Knoppix disk, put the D ONLY drive on the machine, boot to
Knoppix and try to copy (cp) whatever files you need.  Once you have
done what you need, you can then decide whether to format to ext3 over
a failed operating system.  .

Don't know about mozilla, can you give us some more details on this? 
If you just want to uninstall, you can do

# rpm -e mozilla-packagename.rpm   or maybe just try #rpm -e mozilla*.rpm

Once it is gone, re-download the rpm for mozilla, and install it with
the  command:

#rpm -Uvh <packagename>

HTH

[Aly Dharshi]

I find it difficult to believe that Red Hat would actually ship NTFS modules in 
EL. Simply because there was/is a big stink about licensing issues and getting 
sued up the ying yang by Microsoft.

To the best of my knowledge FC 1 or 2 doesn't ship with the NTFS drivers. Unless 
you can prove otherwise.

Cheers,

Aly.
> I know RHEL3 does, and believe FC as well supports NTFS partitions as
> read-only.   So the support is pretty limited.  What errors are you
> getting when you try to do the mount?
> Is the box detecting both drives?  It is possible that the drive is
> not being detected well in that configuration because of the jumpers
> and the master/slave configuration on the drives.  One option might be
> to get a Knoppix disk, put the D ONLY drive on the machine, boot to
> Knoppix and try to copy (cp) whatever files you need.  Once you have
> done what you need, you can then decide whether to format to ext3 over
> a failed operating system.  .

[Kali]

> I know RHEL3 does, and believe FC as well supports NTFS partitions as
> read-only.   So the support is pretty limited.  What errors are you
> getting when you try to do the mount?
> Is the box detecting both drives?  It is possible that the drive is
> not being detected well in that configuration because of the jumpers
> and the master/slave configuration on the drives.  One option might be

Yes , maybe it is not detecting the drive. If its any help here is
some more info....
I use a SATA Intel Motherboard and have 2 HDD. The first with
MSWindows has 2 partitions, one is the C-drive and second partition
D-drive for backup. The latter using NTFS as i thought it is more
secure.
FC2-Linux is currently on the old second Hard disk. Since windows-XP
has crashed i tried to retrieve the data from the backup through Linux
so that i can format Windows and reload it again.
Any ideas/help/pointers are welcome ..

[William Hooper]

linux r said:
[snip]
> I know RHEL3 does,

[snip]

I'm not sure what RHEL3 you are running, but mine doesn't have NTFS support.

[Filippos Klironomos]

> i want to acess the windows 'D' drive {i can
> access 'C" using the mount command but not my backup partition D
> drive} which is currently on another Hard disk  using a SATA Intel
> Motherboard. FC2 is in the old HD. >

So best thing to do is try it out as root:

mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt/driveD -o ro

Make sure you have the /mnt/driveD directory created prior to giving
the above command. If you don't know how a simple:

mkdir /mnt/driveD

should do it. Then you have to figure out which of your partitions is
the drive 'D' in your system and replace that 'X' in the command above
with that partition letter:

fdisk -l

will list the partition table for you and you can see which partition
corresponds to your Windows partition.

Good luck!
> Second problem is that the mozilla browser has also gone kaput and
> does not load. How do i set it right ?

You have to provide more information about this one. What did you do
for it to go 'kaput'? Did you upgrade? What happens when you give the
'mozilla' command?

[Kali]

> So best thing to do is try it out as root:
>
> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt/driveD -o ro

First, Thankyou all for the replies.
and i tried the abv after the mkdir command and got this :

mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel
Now what  ?
> for it to go 'kaput'? Did you upgrade? What happens when you give the
> 'mozilla' command?

I use the GUI icon next to the redhat icon, so when i click it the
cursor just blinks but it does not load the form. So i tried using
Konqueror but Gmail does not support that so now i use Epiphany.

[Mark Haney]

On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 16:48, Kali wrote:
> > So best thing to do is try it out as root:
> >
> > mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt/driveD -o ro
>
> First, Thankyou all for the replies.
> and i tried the abv after the mkdir command and got this :
>
> mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel
> Now what  ?

you need to get the linux-ntfs RPMs from linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net and
install it.  Then try the mount command.
> > for it to go 'kaput'? Did you upgrade? What happens when you give the
> > 'mozilla' command?
>
> I use the GUI icon next to the redhat icon, so when i click it the
> cursor just blinks but it does not load the form. So i tried using
> Konqueror but Gmail does not support that so now i use Epiphany.
> -- 
> Kali
>
> If U thought Life is Unpredictable, try M$-Windoze :-(

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Network Administrator
InterAct Public Safety Systems
[e-mail]
Fedora Core release 2 (Tettnang) Kernel: 2.6.8-1.521 GNU/Linux 
16:50:06 up 5:43, 2 users, load average: 1.18, 1.14, 1.09

[Aly Dharshi]

> > I use the GUI icon next to the redhat icon, so when i click it the
> > cursor just blinks but it does not load the form. So i tried using
> > Konqueror but Gmail does not support that so now i use Epiphany.

Open up a terminal -> right click on the desktop and choose new terminal option 
and then in the terminal window type mozilla and tell us what happens.

[Aly Dharshi]

Well this is a result of your not having the NTFS drivers. So you have to get 
the NTFS drivers from the site in question and then retry the command appropriately.

FC does not ship with NTFS drivers by default.

Kali wrote:
> > So best thing to do is try it out as root:
> >
> > mount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt/driveD -o ro
>
> First, Thankyou all for the replies.
> and i tried the abv after the mkdir command and got this :
>
> mount: fs type ntfs not supported by kernel
> Now what  ?
> > for it to go 'kaput'? Did you upgrade? What happens when you give the
> > 'mozilla' command?
>
> I use the GUI icon next to the redhat icon, so when i click it the
> cursor just blinks but it does not load the form. So i tried using
> Konqueror but Gmail does not support that so now i use Epiphany.

[Kali]

Hi, 
A "big" thankyou to ALL of you as my NTFS problem is solved.