(maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome)
Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower.
Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad.
But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin.
Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday.
The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working?
For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old.
Thank-you in advance. Bill.
On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote:
(maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome)
Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower.
Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad.
But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin.
Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday.
The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working?
For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old.
Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes?
My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect.
I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system.
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ok. good idea. this will take a while. I'll report back.
On 10/25/21 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote:
(maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome)
Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower.
Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad.
But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin.
Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday.
The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working?
For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old.
Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes?
My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect.
I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system.
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On 10/25/21 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote:
(maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome)
Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower.
Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad.
But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin.
Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday.
The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working?
For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old.
Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes?
My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect.
I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system.
That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router. The ipad is currently upgrading its os through the router. If after a while, everything is still good, I'll close this thread.
Thank-you, Ed.
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On 10/25/21 1:54 PM, home user wrote:
On 10/25/21 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote:
(maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome)
Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower.
Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad.
But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin.
Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday.
The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working?
For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old.
Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes?
My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect.
I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system.
That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router. The ipad is currently upgrading its os through the router. If after a while, everything is still good, I'll close this thread.
Thank-you, Ed.
Ed's solution worked. On the Fedora workstation, e-mail works both ways; I surfed the web successfully. The ipad upgraded its OS successfully, and after rebooting,I reached a web site via navigator.
Thank-you for your help, Ed. I consider this thread SOLVED.
Bill.
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:22:14 -0600 home user wrote:
Ed's solution worked. On the Fedora workstation, e-mail works both ways; I surfed the web successfully. The ipad upgraded its OS successfully, and after rebooting,I reached a web site via navigator.
Check the dumb stuff first is always my philosophy (often not followed until I go DOH! a few hours later :-). My netgear RAX 200 sometimes gets into a weird state where everything can access the internet fine, but wireless devices on my local network can't talk to each other. I've finally learned to reboot the router when that happens.
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:54 -0600, home user wrote:
That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router.
It could be that *your* modem and/or router doesn't need power cycling, in general, but that it randomly goofed and needed it this time.
You can test that. Unplug its data leads, leave it powered up. Some time later, repatch it, and see if things just work.
It may also depend on things like; do you leave your modem always powered?
Some people leave everything off, and the individual lengths of time it takes for their modems and routers to boot up means that things always work for them, or randomly don't work.
On 10/25/21 8:18 PM, Tim via users wrote:
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:54 -0600, home user wrote:
That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router.
It could be that *your* modem and/or router doesn't need power cycling, in general, but that it randomly goofed and needed it this time.
You can test that. Unplug its data leads, leave it powered up. Some time later, repatch it, and see if things just work.
By "repatch", you mean reconnect, right? Next time I check for ipad OS patches/upgrades, I'll try what you suggest. That's done monthly.
It may also depend on things like; do you leave your modem always powered?
Some people leave everything off, and the individual lengths of time it takes for their modems and routers to boot up means that things always work for them, or randomly don't work.
The tower is powered down nightly. The router is powered up only when I need it, which seems to be once a month. (My other uses of the ipad do not need the internet.) The modem is an Arris phone modem, so it's always on (for the land-line phone).
Thank-you, Tim.
Bill.
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