Hi All,
Anyone have an experience with Waterfox? https://www.waterfox.net and do you like it?
Also, any sign of RPM support for it out there anywhere?
Many thanks, -T
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 2:22 AM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi All,
Anyone have an experience with Waterfox? https://www.waterfox.net and do you like it?
I believe I used it once when I was trying out Debian.
Why do you want to use it ? Why not just plain Firefox ?
On 2020-11-20 13:21, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 2:22 AM ToddAndMargo via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Hi All, Anyone have an experience with Waterfox? https://www.waterfox.net and do you like it?I believe I used it once when I was trying out Debian.
Why do you want to use it ? Why not just plain Firefox ?
I use Firefox, Brave, and Vivaldi. When something gives me a bad time in one browser, I use another. I am always in the market for yet another. WC seems very interesting. I woudl go for four it is works out,
I have found it impossible to restrict myself to only one browser.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 5:16 AM ToddAndMargo via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
I have found it impossible to restrict myself to only one browser.
I use Chrome and Firefox.
But what advantages do you hope to gain by using Waterfox ? I can't see any potential benefit you would be getting from it.
On 2020-11-20 16:12, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 5:16 AM ToddAndMargo via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:
I have found it impossible to restrict myself to only one browser.I use Chrome and Firefox.
But what advantages do you hope to gain by using Waterfox ? I can't see any potential benefit you would be getting from it.
-- Regards, Sreyan Chakravarty
Hi Sreyan,
I try to stay away from Chrome if I can as it is such a horrid piece of spyware. I am stuck using it on Windows as I need it for Google Remote Assist with Chromebooks
The potential benefit of Yet Another Browser is that if the previous three fail at something or give me a bad time, I have other choices.
For instance, I have both a home and a business Amazon account. Switching back and forth between the two is a YUGE pain in the .... Especially since the cookies and such still get mixed up even when I log out and into another account. So I stick the home account in Firefox and the business account in Brave. Problem solved.
Plus, I need to know a wide rage of what my customers use so I can assist them. Firefox is a nightmare on business to business portals, especially government ones. I need to have alternative for them when the call me.
Stuff like that. You can never have enough browsers
-T
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 16:30 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
For instance, I have both a home and a business Amazon account. Switching back and forth between the two is a YUGE pain in the .... Especially since the cookies and such still get mixed up even when I log out and into another account. So I stick the home account in Firefox and the business account in Brave. Problem solved.
Just as another suggestion, you can use container tabs in Firefox to handle the business vs home account scenario. I use Firefox exclusively and the only issues I've seen were solved by just changing my user agent to make the web server think I was in a "supported" browser.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Kevin Becker kevin@kevinbecker.org wrote:
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 16:30 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
For instance, I have both a home and a business Amazon account. Switching back and forth between the two is a YUGE pain in the .... Especially since the cookies and such still get mixed up even when I log out and into another account. So I stick the home account in Firefox and the business account in Brave. Problem solved.
Just as another suggestion, you can use container tabs in Firefox to handle the business vs home account scenario. I use Firefox exclusively and the only issues I've seen were solved by just changing my user agent to make the web server think I was in a "supported" browser.
How isolated are the container tabs?
On Nov 21, 2020, at 09:43, Mauricio Tavares raubvogel@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 9:16 AM Kevin Becker kevin@kevinbecker.org wrote:
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 16:30 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: For instance, I have both a home and a business Amazon account. Switching back and forth between the two is a YUGE pain in the .... Especially since the cookies and such still get mixed up even when I log out and into another account. So I stick the home account in Firefox and the business account in Brave. Problem solved.
Just as another suggestion, you can use container tabs in Firefox to handle the business vs home account scenario. I use Firefox exclusively and the only issues I've seen were solved by just changing my user agent to make the web server think I was in a "supported" browser.
How isolated are the container tabs?
I suggest reading their documentation. Basically, each containers cookies and sessions are kept separate, so there’s no way for a page to open something using another container’s cookies. You can also have it so certain pages or tabs open in a particular container, which makes it easy to use.
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers
-- Jonathan Billings billings@negate.org
On 2020-11-21 06:15, Kevin Becker wrote:
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 16:30 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
For instance, I have both a home and a business Amazon account. Switching back and forth between the two is a YUGE pain in the .... Especially since the cookies and such still get mixed up even when I log out and into another account. So I stick the home account in Firefox and the business account in Brave. Problem solved.
Just as another suggestion, you can use container tabs in Firefox to handle the business vs home account scenario. I use Firefox exclusively and the only issues I've seen were solved by just changing my user agent to make the web server think I was in a "supported" browser.
Private Widows works too.
Some sites just refuse to work correctly with Firefox.
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 13:02 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Some sites just refuse to work correctly with Firefox.
I haven't come across that since Win98 era. I wonder, though, if they're really rejecting you because you're running Linux.
When you (try to) browse a site, there's a scad of information your browser provides about yourself to the server (browser name, support MIME types, operating system, window size, etc). Originally designed so that servers can accommodate the peculiarities of some browsers, or special needs of the disabled, by serving slightly different data. But often used to tell people to use a different browser, because the webmaster was a lazy opinionated bastard who only wanted to cater to MSIE (properly pronounced as "misery").
On 2020-11-21 17:11, Tim via users wrote:
On Sat, 2020-11-21 at 13:02 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Some sites just refuse to work correctly with Firefox.
I haven't come across that since Win98 era. I wonder, though, if they're really rejecting you because you're running Linux.
When you (try to) browse a site, there's a scad of information your browser provides about yourself to the server (browser name, support MIME types, operating system, window size, etc). Originally designed so that servers can accommodate the peculiarities of some browsers, or special needs of the disabled, by serving slightly different data. But often used to tell people to use a different browser, because the webmaster was a lazy opinionated bastard who only wanted to cater to MSIE (properly pronounced as "misery").
Last on one Linux I saw was Swanson Vitamins. It eventually got fixed.
Usually now, I see problems with Firefox/Linux on a lot of chat windows.
When it comes to business-to-business users, all my customer doing that are on that operating system we will not mention aloud.
I've been using Waterfox-Classic as my main browser for a few years now, but keep Falkon around for those times when WC just won't cut it. My bank's website doesn't like WC, but most random sites seem to accept it. No rpm, but no problem with dependencies.
On 2020-11-20 14:39, Steven Usdansky via users wrote:
I've been using Waterfox-Classic as my main browser for a few years now, but keep Falkon around for those times when WC just won't cut it. My bank's website doesn't like WC, but most random sites seem to accept it. No rpm, but no problem with dependencies.
Hi Steven,
Is the download a binary or a "you compile yourself" thing? I hate messing up my RPM database.
Is WC faster that Firefox?
Does WC have an add on to switch your java and regular "user agent string"? That could get you around your bank.
-T
It's a binary ready to go once unpacked. WC is a FF-57 type browser, and uses the old FF add-ons. User-agent-switcher doesn't satisfy my bank, even when I disable or remove uBlockOrigin and NoScript, although it helps with many other sites. Speed-wise, I don't notice any obvious speed differences between WC and Falkon in my normal use.
There's also a modern WebEx-using version of Waterfox, but I stay with Classic because I like the UI.
On 2020-11-20 12:51, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Also, any sign of RPM support for it out there anywhere?
Found this for RPMs:
https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3Ahawkeye116477%3Aw...
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