Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31 Linux

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Good afternoon from Singapore,

I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
4K video.

Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.

Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
videos significantly faster?

Please advise.

Thank you very much.

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[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 15:32 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.

Fedora 31 is unreleased software. Questions should be addressed to the
Fedora Test list, not here.

poc

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Good afternoon from Singapore,

I am sorry. I should have said Fedora Linux generally. It doesn't have
to be Fedora 31 specifically.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 17:09, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 15:32 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> wrote:
> > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
>
> Fedora 31 is unreleased software. Questions should be addressed to the
> Fedora Test list, not here.
>
> poc
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[Sam Varshavchik]

Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> I am sorry. I should have said Fedora Linux generally. It doesn't have
> to be Fedora 31 specifically.

Openshot is not fancy, slickly-packaged video editing software, by any  
means. Its user interface is a bit rough. And it's anything but super-fast.  
But I have used it to edit together a brief, three-minute Youtube video.

http://www.openshot.org

openshot is in the rpmfusion repository, it's simpler to install rpmfusion,  
and then "dnf install openshot".

[stan]

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:32:35 +0800
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> 4K video.

I'm not sure what you mean by rendering here, but if you mean changing
frame dimensions, transposing, or other compute intensive operations, I
think you have described the problem below.  Commercial enterprises use
render farms to do these operations, and even they take a long time.
You could look for articles about places like Pixar to see if they
mention the computing power they use to get a better idea.
> Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.

I don't think there is such a thing.  I use a program called avidemux3
to do simple editing, but I have never used it on 4k.  There is a
program called ffmpeg, and if anything is going to be fast, it is, but
it is a command line program, where you request via options what you
want done, and it does it.  Both are available in rpmfusion.
> Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> videos significantly faster?

See first comment.  More power means faster, but it means the software
has to be aware of how to use that power (parallel processing).  Is
the software you are using parallel aware?  If it isn't, adding more
horsepower is a waste of money, as it won't be used.  Does it say
anything about maximum cores it can use?

[William Oliver]

On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 07:24 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:32:35 +0800
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> wrote:
> > [I wanna make pictures]
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by rendering here, but if you mean
> changing
> frame dimensions, transposing, or other compute intensive operations,
> I
> think you have described the problem below.  Commercial enterprises
> use
> render farms to do these operations, and even they take a long time.
> You could look for articles about places like Pixar to see if they
> mention the computing power they use to get a better idea.
> > [snip]

I agree.  The only real solution for this if you are rendering a long
video is to break it up and use a render farm.  That's the bad
news.  The good news is that you can do that *relatively* cheap with
linux and raspberry pi, or with those crappy old laptops you've
replaced over the years but haven't quite thrown away.  When you farm
it out like that, you can use cheap boxes with crappy processors and
it's OK -- because that's not where you savings in time comes from.

The modeling software Blender now has a "reasonable" video editor
module as long as you are not trying to do hard core stuff, and it
supports network rendering with a plugin.

Here's a discussion  setting up a render farm in Blender (using macs):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3EcpkwLCFI

Here's a pointer to farm management software for Blender:

https://www.flamenco.io/

However, please consider this just a pointer.  The last time I did this
kind of rendering was a couple of years ago.

Note that you don't have to use linux for this -- these are cross
platform apps, but linux saves you that used dirty feel in the morning.

billo

[Roger Heflin]

Look for a video card that can decode *AND* encode and do basic processing.

I have a "crappy" low end older nvidia card, and it is about 3x faster
than an older pre-ryzen 4 core box.   My card is rated at 8x encode at
1080 basic encoding.   There are newer cards that are several times
faster than my card.   Search NVENC and see this page:

https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix

I think you have to use the nvidia driver (I am), so I don't know if
it works without it.

And note that more expensive graphics cards in the same family often
don't have better encoders/decoders (unlike the graphics display
speed).

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:33 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> 4K video.
>
> Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
>
> Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> videos significantly faster?
>
> Please advise.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
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>
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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Hi Sam,

(1) Is Openshot able to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos?

(2) Can I insert layers of watermarks using Openshot?

Thank you for your suggestion.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 19:19, Sam Varshavchik  wrote:
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming writes:
> > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> >
> > I am sorry. I should have said Fedora Linux generally. It doesn't have
> > to be Fedora 31 specifically.
>
> Openshot is not fancy, slickly-packaged video editing software, by any
> means. Its user interface is a bit rough. And it's anything but super-fast.
> But I have used it to edit together a brief, three-minute Youtube video.
>
> http://www.openshot.org
>
> openshot is in the rpmfusion repository, it's simpler to install rpmfusion,
> and then "dnf install openshot".
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[Ed Greshko]

On 9/21/19 11:38 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> (1) Is Openshot able to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos?

You could install it and try it yourself.

The canned profiles contain

4K UHD 2160p @ 23.98, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94 and 60fps
> (2) Can I insert layers of watermarks using Openshot?

You can do a google search of "add watermark to video linux openshot".

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 22:25, stan via users
 wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:32:35 +0800
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> wrote:
> > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> >
> > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > 4K video.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by rendering here, but if you mean changing
> frame dimensions, transposing, or other compute intensive operations, I
> think you have described the problem below.  Commercial enterprises use
> render farms to do these operations, and even they take a long time.
> You could look for articles about places like Pixar to see if they
> mention the computing power they use to get a better idea.

Hi stan,

What I mean is combining multiple smaller 4K video clips into a
bigger, single 4K video and at the same time, allowing me to add
layers of watermarks into the 4K video.

You can watch the following YouTube video for what I mean by adding
layers of watermarks into the 4K video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-D5dIYAamE
> > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
>
> I don't think there is such a thing.  I use a program called avidemux3
> to do simple editing, but I have never used it on 4k.  There is a
> program called ffmpeg, and if anything is going to be fast, it is, but
> it is a command line program, where you request via options what you
> want done, and it does it.  Both are available in rpmfusion.
> > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > videos significantly faster?
>
> See first comment.  More power means faster, but it means the software
> has to be aware of how to use that power (parallel processing).  Is
> the software you are using parallel aware?  If it isn't, adding more
> horsepower is a waste of money, as it won't be used.  Does it say
> anything about maximum cores it can use?

I am using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 for Windows 10. I think it
is aware of the 6 cores of my Intel Core i7-5820K processor. But I am
not sure whether it could benefit from 16 cores or 18 cores.
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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Hi William Oliver,

Thank you for sharing.

On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 at 22:57, William Oliver  wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-09-20 at 07:24 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Sep 2019 15:32:35 +0800
> > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> > wrote:
> > > [I wanna make pictures]
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean by rendering here, but if you mean
> > changing
> > frame dimensions, transposing, or other compute intensive operations,
> > I
> > think you have described the problem below.  Commercial enterprises
> > use
> > render farms to do these operations, and even they take a long time.
> > You could look for articles about places like Pixar to see if they
> > mention the computing power they use to get a better idea.
> > > [snip]
>
> I agree.  The only real solution for this if you are rendering a long
> video is to break it up and use a render farm.  That's the bad
> news.  The good news is that you can do that *relatively* cheap with
> linux and raspberry pi, or with those crappy old laptops you've
> replaced over the years but haven't quite thrown away.  When you farm
> it out like that, you can use cheap boxes with crappy processors and
> it's OK -- because that's not where you savings in time comes from.
>
> The modeling software Blender now has a "reasonable" video editor
> module as long as you are not trying to do hard core stuff, and it
> supports network rendering with a plugin.
>
> Here's a discussion  setting up a render farm in Blender (using macs):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3EcpkwLCFI
>
> Here's a pointer to farm management software for Blender:
>
> https://www.flamenco.io/
>
> However, please consider this just a pointer.  The last time I did this
> kind of rendering was a couple of years ago.
>
> Note that you don't have to use linux for this -- these are cross
> platform apps, but linux saves you that used dirty feel in the morning.
>
> billo
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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Hi Roger Heflin,

It seems I need to get a better video card. My budget is very low, in
terms of Singapore dollars.

Could you refer to the following Singapore price list and recommend
which BUDGET video card to buy?

http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/20190920215139.pdf

At present, I am using AMD Radeon HD 6450, which is a super cheap and
super low end video card.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 10:34, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> Look for a video card that can decode *AND* encode and do basic processing.
>
> I have a "crappy" low end older nvidia card, and it is about 3x faster
> than an older pre-ryzen 4 core box.   My card is rated at 8x encode at
> 1080 basic encoding.   There are newer cards that are several times
> faster than my card.   Search NVENC and see this page:
>
> https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
>
> I think you have to use the nvidia driver (I am), so I don't know if
> it works without it.
>
> And note that more expensive graphics cards in the same family often
> don't have better encoders/decoders (unlike the graphics display
> speed).
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:33 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> >
> > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > 4K video.
> >
> > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
> >
> > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > videos significantly faster?
> >
> > Please advise.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
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> >
> > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
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> > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > Aug 2019):
> >
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> >
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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Noted with thanks.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 12:13, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 9/21/19 11:38 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > (1) Is Openshot able to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos?
>
> You could install it and try it yourself.
>
> The canned profiles contain
>
> 4K UHD 2160p @ 23.98, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94 and 60fps
> > (2) Can I insert layers of watermarks using Openshot?
>
> You can do a google search of "add watermark to video linux openshot".
>
> --
> If simple questions can be answered with a simple google query then why are there so many of them?
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[Roger Heflin]

The cheap card I bought is a gt710/730 with gddr5 (4 or 3 does not
have the encoder), this card is rated at 8x real time 1080 but I don't
believe will do 4k.   The best place to read about these cards is
either on the OBS website or the various video gamer websites as they
like to broadcast their games in real time and so need powerful
encoders to do it.

Check that website from nvidia and if you do some other research, my
card is a 1st gen nvenc card and rated at 8x(1080), the 2nd gen is
rated at 16x(1080) and I believe the 3rd gen is rated at 8x(4k).  It
is a bit tricky to determine which card is which gen, the easiest way
to tell is to look at the memory type/speed and look at the number of
texture units.  Based on what my card does a 3rdgen card should be
able to exceed real-time on 4k video.   My card does 2-3x real time
(about equal to a 4-6 core processor), so I would expect the 3rd gen
card to be at least equal to a 12-18 core cpu.     It should also be
noted that the nvidia cards do a whole lot less power than using the
cpu.

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Hi Roger Heflin,
>
> It seems I need to get a better video card. My budget is very low, in
> terms of Singapore dollars.
>
> Could you refer to the following Singapore price list and recommend
> which BUDGET video card to buy?
>
> http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/20190920215139.pdf
>
> At present, I am using AMD Radeon HD 6450, which is a super cheap and
> super low end video card.
>
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 10:34, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> > Look for a video card that can decode *AND* encode and do basic processing.
> >
> > I have a "crappy" low end older nvidia card, and it is about 3x faster
> > than an older pre-ryzen 4 core box.   My card is rated at 8x encode at
> > 1080 basic encoding.   There are newer cards that are several times
> > faster than my card.   Search NVENC and see this page:
> >
> > https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
> >
> > I think you have to use the nvidia driver (I am), so I don't know if
> > it works without it.
> >
> > And note that more expensive graphics cards in the same family often
> > don't have better encoders/decoders (unlike the graphics display
> > speed).
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:33 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> > >
> > > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > > 4K video.
> > >
> > > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
> > >
> > > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > > videos significantly faster?
> > >
> > > Please advise.
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > >
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> > >
> > > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
> > >
> > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > >
> > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > >
> > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > Aug 2019):
> > >
> > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > >
> > > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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> U.S. Embassy Workers
>
> Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
>
> Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> Aug 2019):
>
> [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
>
> [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
>
> [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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[stan]

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 13:59:23 +0800
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
wrote:
> What I mean is combining multiple smaller 4K video clips into a
> bigger, single 4K video and at the same time, allowing me to add
> layers of watermarks into the 4K video.

Disclaimer:  haven't done this, not an expert

If you are concatenating several segments of 4k video, that should be
fast because there is no encoding or decoding.  It would be best to do
this as a separate step, creating the final concatenated video as an output.
untested ffmpeg command to concatenate all the files

ffmpeg -i [list of input files] -codec copy [concatenated output file]

yields a single file of a name you choose containing all the input files
in the order you list them

Adding the watermark is the piece that takes so long, because the
video has to be decoded, every frame filtered to add the watermark, and
re-encoded before writing to the output.
untested ffmpeg command to watermark the video, single line

ffmpeg -i [concatenated output file] -i [watermark overlay image]
filter_complex 'overlay' [watermarked output file name]

You should make the watermark file the same pixel dimensions as
the frames of the video you want to overlay to prevent image distortion.

see man ffmpeg for more explanation
> I am using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 for Windows 10. I think it
> is aware of the 6 cores of my Intel Core i7-5820K processor. But I am
> not sure whether it could benefit from 16 cores or 18 cores.

The documentation should tell you that, or you can look up their site
faq online to see, or ask their help support online.  I am not familiar
with that software, so I don't know.

[jdow]

On 20190921 08:50:20, stan via users wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 13:59:23 +0800
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> wrote:
> > What I mean is combining multiple smaller 4K video clips into a
> > bigger, single 4K video and at the same time, allowing me to add
> > layers of watermarks into the 4K video.
>
> Disclaimer:  haven't done this, not an expert
>
> If you are concatenating several segments of 4k video, that should be
> fast because there is no encoding or decoding.  It would be best to do
> this as a separate step, creating the final concatenated video as an output.
> untested ffmpeg command to concatenate all the files
>
> ffmpeg -i [list of input files] -codec copy [concatenated output file]
>
> yields a single file of a name you choose containing all the input files
> in the order you list them
>
> Adding the watermark is the piece that takes so long, because the
> video has to be decoded, every frame filtered to add the watermark, and
> re-encoded before writing to the output.

FWIW I was playing mpeg/mjpeg/avi for watermark and video, two channels, and 
cross fading or cross squeezing with live video for branding and news room work 
back around 2005 live for HD with Matrox DSX cards on Windows. Back then the 
Matrox people were unable to make nearly enough performance out of their cards 
with Linux so they abandoned the effort. That may have changed, especially with 
Windows 10 putting itself in the way of clean honest video work at every step of 
the way. So this is just a benchmark of what WAS possible. nVidia based systems 
were doing approximately as well back then. In calculating what you want to do 
and how to do it be sure to calculate bus usage into the picture. With all the 
program I had authored was doing bus transfers became an issue as did, it turns 
out, the bus transfers between CPU chips in a multiple CPU system. Everything 
you can think of needs to be figured out with simple arithmetic to make sure you 
are not demanding more out of your system than it can deliver. It's not just a 
software issue. It's GPU cycles, CPU cycles, OS overhead, bus speeds, CPU to CPU 
bus speeds, and probably other more exotic issues such as page sizes that matter.

Apple and Windows are the places with the really good software for this last I 
knew, which is some time ago. I'm retired now. Linux at the time was extremely 
anemic in comparison. You MAY have to embrace one of the devils.

{o.o}

[Robin Laing]

On 20/09/2019 01:32, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> 4K video.
>
> Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
>
> Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> videos significantly faster?
>
> Please advise.
>
> Thank you very much.

mplayer is great for getting your raw video formatted.  mencoder, 
mplayer, ffmpeg all can change the video and add the required watermark. 
  With some work, you can use mplayer and ffmpeg to cut, edit and join 
the various pieces of video together or add your watermark.

RAM is your friend.  I now want to try on my one machine with 128G of 
ram and see how fast it can work.  Also SSD's for speed if you don't 
have the ram.  You want to have the fastest disk rights possible.

You want to minimize the bottlenecks which are normally data writes and 
reads today.

SSD's in a raid 0 configuration are fastest but can be an area of data 
loss if there is a crash.

Set up two SSD's for just the editing process, not anything else.  May 
be the cheapest method.

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Should I get the Asus GT710 at SGD$85, Asus GT1030 2 GB GDDR5 at
SGD$149 or GTX1650 4 GB GDDR5 at SGD$200++ ?

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 21:53, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> The cheap card I bought is a gt710/730 with gddr5 (4 or 3 does not
> have the encoder), this card is rated at 8x real time 1080 but I don't
> believe will do 4k.   The best place to read about these cards is
> either on the OBS website or the various video gamer websites as they
> like to broadcast their games in real time and so need powerful
> encoders to do it.
>
> Check that website from nvidia and if you do some other research, my
> card is a 1st gen nvenc card and rated at 8x(1080), the 2nd gen is
> rated at 16x(1080) and I believe the 3rd gen is rated at 8x(4k).  It
> is a bit tricky to determine which card is which gen, the easiest way
> to tell is to look at the memory type/speed and look at the number of
> texture units.  Based on what my card does a 3rdgen card should be
> able to exceed real-time on 4k video.   My card does 2-3x real time
> (about equal to a 4-6 core processor), so I would expect the 3rd gen
> card to be at least equal to a 12-18 core cpu.     It should also be
> noted that the nvidia cards do a whole lot less power than using the
> cpu.
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > Hi Roger Heflin,
> >
> > It seems I need to get a better video card. My budget is very low, in
> > terms of Singapore dollars.
> >
> > Could you refer to the following Singapore price list and recommend
> > which BUDGET video card to buy?
> >
> > http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/20190920215139.pdf
> >
> > At present, I am using AMD Radeon HD 6450, which is a super cheap and
> > super low end video card.
> >
> > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 10:34, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> > > Look for a video card that can decode *AND* encode and do basic processing.
> > >
> > > I have a "crappy" low end older nvidia card, and it is about 3x faster
> > > than an older pre-ryzen 4 core box.   My card is rated at 8x encode at
> > > 1080 basic encoding.   There are newer cards that are several times
> > > faster than my card.   Search NVENC and see this page:
> > >
> > > https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
> > >
> > > I think you have to use the nvidia driver (I am), so I don't know if
> > > it works without it.
> > >
> > > And note that more expensive graphics cards in the same family often
> > > don't have better encoders/decoders (unlike the graphics display
> > > speed).
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:33 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> > > >
> > > > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > > > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > > > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > > > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > > > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > > > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > > > 4K video.
> > > >
> > > > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > > > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > > > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > > > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > > > videos significantly faster?
> > > >
> > > > Please advise.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much.
> > > >
> > > > -----BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE-----
> > > >
> > > > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
> > > >
> > > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > > >
> > > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > > >
> > > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > > Aug 2019):
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > > >
> > > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > > >
> > > > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
> > > >
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> >
> > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > U.S. Embassy Workers
> >
> > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> >
> > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > Aug 2019):
> >
> > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> >
> > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> >
> > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
> >
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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Noted with thanks Stan.

On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 23:50, stan  wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 13:59:23 +0800
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> wrote:
> > What I mean is combining multiple smaller 4K video clips into a
> > bigger, single 4K video and at the same time, allowing me to add
> > layers of watermarks into the 4K video.
>
> Disclaimer:  haven't done this, not an expert
>
> If you are concatenating several segments of 4k video, that should be
> fast because there is no encoding or decoding.  It would be best to do
> this as a separate step, creating the final concatenated video as an output.
> untested ffmpeg command to concatenate all the files
>
> ffmpeg -i [list of input files] -codec copy [concatenated output file]
>
> yields a single file of a name you choose containing all the input files
> in the order you list them
>
> Adding the watermark is the piece that takes so long, because the
> video has to be decoded, every frame filtered to add the watermark, and
> re-encoded before writing to the output.
> untested ffmpeg command to watermark the video, single line
>
> ffmpeg -i [concatenated output file] -i [watermark overlay image]
> filter_complex 'overlay' [watermarked output file name]
>
> You should make the watermark file the same pixel dimensions as
> the frames of the video you want to overlay to prevent image distortion.
>
> see man ffmpeg for more explanation
> > I am using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 for Windows 10. I think it
> > is aware of the 6 cores of my Intel Core i7-5820K processor. But I am
> > not sure whether it could benefit from 16 cores or 18 cores.
>
> The documentation should tell you that, or you can look up their site
> faq online to see, or ask their help support online.  I am not familiar
> with that software, so I don't know.

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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Noted with thanks jdow.

On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 06:19, jdow  wrote:
> On 20190921 08:50:20, stan via users wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 13:59:23 +0800
> > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming 
> > wrote:
> > > What I mean is combining multiple smaller 4K video clips into a
> > > bigger, single 4K video and at the same time, allowing me to add
> > > layers of watermarks into the 4K video.
> >
> > Disclaimer:  haven't done this, not an expert
> >
> > If you are concatenating several segments of 4k video, that should be
> > fast because there is no encoding or decoding.  It would be best to do
> > this as a separate step, creating the final concatenated video as an output.
> > untested ffmpeg command to concatenate all the files
> >
> > ffmpeg -i [list of input files] -codec copy [concatenated output file]
> >
> > yields a single file of a name you choose containing all the input files
> > in the order you list them
> >
> > Adding the watermark is the piece that takes so long, because the
> > video has to be decoded, every frame filtered to add the watermark, and
> > re-encoded before writing to the output.
>
> FWIW I was playing mpeg/mjpeg/avi for watermark and video, two channels, and
> cross fading or cross squeezing with live video for branding and news room work
> back around 2005 live for HD with Matrox DSX cards on Windows. Back then the
> Matrox people were unable to make nearly enough performance out of their cards
> with Linux so they abandoned the effort. That may have changed, especially with
> Windows 10 putting itself in the way of clean honest video work at every step of
> the way. So this is just a benchmark of what WAS possible. nVidia based systems
> were doing approximately as well back then. In calculating what you want to do
> and how to do it be sure to calculate bus usage into the picture. With all the
> program I had authored was doing bus transfers became an issue as did, it turns
> out, the bus transfers between CPU chips in a multiple CPU system. Everything
> you can think of needs to be figured out with simple arithmetic to make sure you
> are not demanding more out of your system than it can deliver. It's not just a
> software issue. It's GPU cycles, CPU cycles, OS overhead, bus speeds, CPU to CPU
> bus speeds, and probably other more exotic issues such as page sizes that matter.
>
> Apple and Windows are the places with the really good software for this last I
> knew, which is some time ago. I'm retired now. Linux at the time was extremely
> anemic in comparison. You MAY have to embrace one of the devils.
>
> {o.o}
> _______________________________________________
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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Isn't mplayer just a video player for Linux only?

On Sun, 22 Sep 2019 at 14:31, Robin Laing  wrote:
> On 20/09/2019 01:32, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> >
> > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > 4K video.
> >
> > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
> >
> > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > videos significantly faster?
> >
> > Please advise.
> >
> > Thank you very much.
>
> mplayer is great for getting your raw video formatted.  mencoder,
> mplayer, ffmpeg all can change the video and add the required watermark.
>   With some work, you can use mplayer and ffmpeg to cut, edit and join
> the various pieces of video together or add your watermark.
>
> RAM is your friend.  I now want to try on my one machine with 128G of
> ram and see how fast it can work.  Also SSD's for speed if you don't
> have the ram.  You want to have the fastest disk rights possible.
>
> You want to minimize the bottlenecks which are normally data writes and
> reads today.
>
> SSD's in a raid 0 configuration are fastest but can be an area of data
> loss if there is a crash.
>
> Set up two SSD's for just the editing process, not anything else.  May
> be the cheapest method.
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Tim]

On Fri, 2019-09-27 at 13:29 +0800, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
> Isn't mplayer just a video player for Linux only?

No.  There are compilations for other OSs.  I have used it on Windows. 
And there is a related encoder (mencoder) included with some packages.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 9/21/19 11:30 PM, Robin Laing wrote:
> RAM is your friend.  I now want to try on my one machine with 128G of 
> ram and see how fast it can work.  Also SSD's for speed if you don't 
> have the ram.  You want to have the fastest disk rights possible.
>
> You want to minimize the bottlenecks which are normally data writes and 
> reads today.

For compressing video, memory size and disk speed are not very 
important.  It's the CPU that's most important, that's why having 
hardware encoders is so helpful.

Disk speed might be relevant if you're dealing with 4K raw video.

[Roger Heflin]

The gt1030 does not have nvenc in it.

the gtx1650 is a turning chipset and shows it is a turning (2-3 gens
newer then kepler so it is claimed to be faster).  The official name
for the card is: GeForce GTX 1650, this card is supposed to be 4x
faster than the geforce gt710 card.

the geforce 710 (with ddr5) if it is a kepler is a 8x 1080 card but
will not do 4k.  There are geforce 710's without gddr5 and they cannot
do encoding.

The $200 card is supposed to have the fastest encoder and also supports 4k.

These 2 pages work as reference:
https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:16 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Should I get the Asus GT710 at SGD$85, Asus GT1030 2 GB GDDR5 at
> SGD$149 or GTX1650 4 GB GDDR5 at SGD$200++ ?
>
> On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 21:53, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> > The cheap card I bought is a gt710/730 with gddr5 (4 or 3 does not
> > have the encoder), this card is rated at 8x real time 1080 but I don't
> > believe will do 4k.   The best place to read about these cards is
> > either on the OBS website or the various video gamer websites as they
> > like to broadcast their games in real time and so need powerful
> > encoders to do it.
> >
> > Check that website from nvidia and if you do some other research, my
> > card is a 1st gen nvenc card and rated at 8x(1080), the 2nd gen is
> > rated at 16x(1080) and I believe the 3rd gen is rated at 8x(4k).  It
> > is a bit tricky to determine which card is which gen, the easiest way
> > to tell is to look at the memory type/speed and look at the number of
> > texture units.  Based on what my card does a 3rdgen card should be
> > able to exceed real-time on 4k video.   My card does 2-3x real time
> > (about equal to a 4-6 core processor), so I would expect the 3rd gen
> > card to be at least equal to a 12-18 core cpu.     It should also be
> > noted that the nvidia cards do a whole lot less power than using the
> > cpu.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > Hi Roger Heflin,
> > >
> > > It seems I need to get a better video card. My budget is very low, in
> > > terms of Singapore dollars.
> > >
> > > Could you refer to the following Singapore price list and recommend
> > > which BUDGET video card to buy?
> > >
> > > http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/20190920215139.pdf
> > >
> > > At present, I am using AMD Radeon HD 6450, which is a super cheap and
> > > super low end video card.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 10:34, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> > > > Look for a video card that can decode *AND* encode and do basic processing.
> > > >
> > > > I have a "crappy" low end older nvidia card, and it is about 3x faster
> > > > than an older pre-ryzen 4 core box.   My card is rated at 8x encode at
> > > > 1080 basic encoding.   There are newer cards that are several times
> > > > faster than my card.   Search NVENC and see this page:
> > > >
> > > > https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
> > > >
> > > > I think you have to use the nvidia driver (I am), so I don't know if
> > > > it works without it.
> > > >
> > > > And note that more expensive graphics cards in the same family often
> > > > don't have better encoders/decoders (unlike the graphics display
> > > > speed).
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:33 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > > > > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > > > > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > > > > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > > > > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > > > > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > > > > 4K video.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > > > > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > > > > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > > > > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > > > > videos significantly faster?
> > > > >
> > > > > Please advise.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you very much.
> > > > >
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> > > > > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
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> > > > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > > > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > > > >
> > > > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > > > Aug 2019):
> > > > >
> > > > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > > > >
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> > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > >
> > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > >
> > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > Aug 2019):
> > >
> > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > >
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> The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
>
> [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> U.S. Embassy Workers
>
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>
> Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> Aug 2019):
>
> [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
>
> [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
>
> [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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[Turritopsis1 Dohrnii1 Teo1 En1 Ming1]

Dear Samuel Sieb,

Thank you for this very important tip!

I will either need to upgrade my CPU or GPU.

Upgrading my video card would be less of an hassle since I won't need
to buy and assemble new motherboard and processor.

Now is 10th Generation Intel Core processors already! I am still using
5th Generation Intel Core i7-5820K with 6 cores!

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 00:01, Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> On 9/21/19 11:30 PM, Robin Laing wrote:
> > RAM is your friend.  I now want to try on my one machine with 128G of
> > ram and see how fast it can work.  Also SSD's for speed if you don't
> > have the ram.  You want to have the fastest disk rights possible.
> >
> > You want to minimize the bottlenecks which are normally data writes and
> > reads today.
>
> For compressing video, memory size and disk speed are not very
> important.  It's the CPU that's most important, that's why having
> hardware encoders is so helpful.
>
> Disk speed might be relevant if you're dealing with 4K raw video.
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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Turritopsis1 Dohrnii1 Teo1 En1 Ming1]

Hi Roger Heflin,

Noted with thanks.

Looks like I am going to buy the Geforce GTX1650 4 GB GDDR5 video card
at SGD$200++ when I have the money!

It is going to vastly improve my 4K video rendering speeds with GPU
acceleration turned on.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 08:07, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> The gt1030 does not have nvenc in it.
>
> the gtx1650 is a turning chipset and shows it is a turning (2-3 gens
> newer then kepler so it is claimed to be faster).  The official name
> for the card is: GeForce GTX 1650, this card is supposed to be 4x
> faster than the geforce gt710 card.
>
> the geforce 710 (with ddr5) if it is a kepler is a 8x 1080 card but
> will not do 4k.  There are geforce 710's without gddr5 and they cannot
> do encoding.
>
> The $200 card is supposed to have the fastest encoder and also supports 4k.
>
> These 2 pages work as reference:
> https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 12:16 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > Should I get the Asus GT710 at SGD$85, Asus GT1030 2 GB GDDR5 at
> > SGD$149 or GTX1650 4 GB GDDR5 at SGD$200++ ?
> >
> > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 21:53, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> > > The cheap card I bought is a gt710/730 with gddr5 (4 or 3 does not
> > > have the encoder), this card is rated at 8x real time 1080 but I don't
> > > believe will do 4k.   The best place to read about these cards is
> > > either on the OBS website or the various video gamer websites as they
> > > like to broadcast their games in real time and so need powerful
> > > encoders to do it.
> > >
> > > Check that website from nvidia and if you do some other research, my
> > > card is a 1st gen nvenc card and rated at 8x(1080), the 2nd gen is
> > > rated at 16x(1080) and I believe the 3rd gen is rated at 8x(4k).  It
> > > is a bit tricky to determine which card is which gen, the easiest way
> > > to tell is to look at the memory type/speed and look at the number of
> > > texture units.  Based on what my card does a 3rdgen card should be
> > > able to exceed real-time on 4k video.   My card does 2-3x real time
> > > (about equal to a 4-6 core processor), so I would expect the 3rd gen
> > > card to be at least equal to a 12-18 core cpu.     It should also be
> > > noted that the nvidia cards do a whole lot less power than using the
> > > cpu.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 1:12 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > >  wrote:
> > > > Hi Roger Heflin,
> > > >
> > > > It seems I need to get a better video card. My budget is very low, in
> > > > terms of Singapore dollars.
> > > >
> > > > Could you refer to the following Singapore price list and recommend
> > > > which BUDGET video card to buy?
> > > >
> > > > http://www.fuwell.com.sg/uploads/misc/20190920215139.pdf
> > > >
> > > > At present, I am using AMD Radeon HD 6450, which is a super cheap and
> > > > super low end video card.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 at 10:34, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> > > > > Look for a video card that can decode *AND* encode and do basic processing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a "crappy" low end older nvidia card, and it is about 3x faster
> > > > > than an older pre-ryzen 4 core box.   My card is rated at 8x encode at
> > > > > 1080 basic encoding.   There are newer cards that are several times
> > > > > faster than my card.   Search NVENC and see this page:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://developer.nvidia.com/video-encode-decode-gpu-support-matrix
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you have to use the nvidia driver (I am), so I don't know if
> > > > > it works without it.
> > > > >
> > > > > And note that more expensive graphics cards in the same family often
> > > > > don't have better encoders/decoders (unlike the graphics display
> > > > > speed).
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 2:33 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > Good afternoon from Singapore,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am presently using Vegas Movie Studio Platinum 15.0 on Windows 10
> > > > > > Home Edition to render 4K Ultra HD 3840x2160 videos. My processor is
> > > > > > 5th generation Intel Core i7-5820K @ 3.3 GHz with 6 cores only. My
> > > > > > motherboard is MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition with LGA2011-3 socket and 32
> > > > > > GB DDR4 memory. However, 4K video rendering on this platform takes an
> > > > > > extremely long time, typically more than 10 hours to render a 2-hour
> > > > > > 4K video.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please recommend a super fast video editing software for Fedora 31
> > > > > > Linux which can do 4K video rendering significantly faster.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Perhaps it is not the software but my processor which could be the
> > > > > > bottleneck. Do I need to upgrade to 16 or 18 core processors like the
> > > > > > Intel Core i9-9980XE Extreme Edition or AMD Ryzen 9 3950X to render 4K
> > > > > > videos significantly faster?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please advise.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you very much.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE-----
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > > > > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > > > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > > > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > > > > Aug 2019):
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
> > > > > >
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> > > >
> > > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > > >
> > > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > > >
> > > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > > Aug 2019):
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > > >
> > > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > > >
> > > > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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> >
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> > U.S. Embassy Workers
> >
> > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> >
> > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > Aug 2019):
> >
> > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> >
> > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> >
> > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Ed Greshko]

On 9/28/19 6:07 PM, Turritopsis1 Dohrnii1 Teo1 En1 Ming1 wrote:
> It is going to vastly improve my 4K video rendering speeds with GPU
> acceleration turned on.

FWIW

I have only a GeForce GTX 660.  And using the same parameters on Handbrake the amount of time to convert a Matroska video file to mp4 was cut in half when selecting the H.264 NVEnc Video Encoder.

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Hi Ed Greshko,

I am afraid I cannot find GeForce GTX 660 in Singapore any more. It is
already obsolete many years ago.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:36, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 9/28/19 6:07 PM, Turritopsis1 Dohrnii1 Teo1 En1 Ming1 wrote:
> > It is going to vastly improve my 4K video rendering speeds with GPU
> > acceleration turned on.
>
> FWIW
>
> I have only a GeForce GTX 660.  And using the same parameters on Handbrake the amount of time to convert a Matroska video file to mp4 was cut in half when selecting the H.264 NVEnc Video Encoder.
>
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United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Ed Greshko]

On 9/28/19 6:41 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> I am afraid I cannot find GeForce GTX 660 in Singapore any more. It is
> already obsolete many years ago.

Yes, that is my point.  Even with an older card I see substantial improvement when using the GPU as opposed to my CPU.  So, you should good results.

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Thanks for the tip!

So I think if I get the GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GDDR5 video card, I
should see vastly substantial improvements also.

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:45, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 9/28/19 6:41 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > I am afraid I cannot find GeForce GTX 660 in Singapore any more. It is
> > already obsolete many years ago.
>
> Yes, that is my point.  Even with an older card I see substantial improvement when using the GPU as opposed to my CPU.  So, you should good results.
>
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Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Subject: Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit
Video Card Improves 4K Video Rendering Speeds by LEAPS AND BOUNDS!

Good day from Singapore,

I have just bought a Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB
GDDR5 128Bit with/Display Port/HDMI/DVI-D/CoolingFan video card for
SGD$230 (after some bargaining) at a 4th story computer shop in Sim
Lim Square in Singapore,Singapore on 29th September 2019 Sunday
Singapore Time.

Prior to buying the above-mentioned video card, I was using the
Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6450 video card. Rendering a 2-hour 4K video
with this ultra cheapo video card (GPU acceleration of video
processing TURNED OFF) took MORE THAN TEN (10) hours!

The technical specifications of my ancient and primitive home desktop
computer are:

[01] 5th Generation Intel Core i7-5820K Extreme Edition Processor with
6 cores and 12 threads @ 3.30 GHz

[02] MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition Motherboard LGA2011-3 Socket with
Intel X99 chipset

[03] 32 GB DDR4 Memory (Mixture of 4 sticks of Crucial and Kingston
DDR4 memory sticks)

[04] Windows 10 Home Edition version 1803 64-bit

[05] Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum video rendering software

As of 30th September 2019 Monday Singapore Time, Intel Corporation has
already released 10th Generation Intel Core processors. I am truly
very sorry that I am not able to afford upgrading from 5th Generation
Intel Core processor systems to 10th Generation Intel Core processor
systems. Hence I have to make do with buying Galax GeForce GTX1650
EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card for SGD$230 at the
moment.

After removing the Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6450 video card from my home
desktop computer, I installed the brand new Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1
Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card immediately. Upon booting
up Windows 10 Home Edition, I quickly turned on GPU Acceleration of
Video Processing in Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum. I would choose
all 4K video rendering templates with "NVIDIA NVENC".

From Wikipedia:

[QUOTE] Nvidia NVENC is a feature in its graphics cards that performs
video encoding, offloading this compute-intensive task from the CPU.
It was introduced with the Kepler-based GeForce 600 series in March
2012.[1][2]

The encoder is supported in many streaming and recording programs,
such as Wirecast, Open Broadcaster Software (OBS) and Bandicam, and
also works with Share game capture, which is included in Nvidia's
GeForce Experience software.[3][4][5]

Consumer targeted GeForce graphics cards officially support no more
than 2 simultaneously encoding video streams, regardless of the count
of the cards installed, but this restriction can be circumvented on
Linux and Windows systems by applying an unofficial patch to the
drivers[6]. Professional cards support between 2 and 21 simultaneous
streams per card, depending on card model and compression quality.[1]
[/QUOTE]

And WOW! Rendering a 2 hour 19 minute 4K Ultra HD video (taken with my
Samsung NX500 4K camera) with Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC
PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card took only 3 hours and 30 minutes!!!
This is a vast and tremendous improvement from the past of taking MORE
THAN 10 hours to render a 2-hour 4K video without any GPU Acceleration
of video processing!

What do you think would happen if I am able to afford upgrading to a
10th Generation Intel Core home desktop computer?

Greetings from Singapore!

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:55, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> So I think if I get the GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GDDR5 video card, I
> should see vastly substantial improvements also.
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:45, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> > On 9/28/19 6:41 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > I am afraid I cannot find GeForce GTX 660 in Singapore any more. It is
> > > already obsolete many years ago.
> >
> > Yes, that is my point.  Even with an older card I see substantial improvement when using the GPU as opposed to my CPU.  So, you should good results.
> >
> > --
> > If simple questions can be answered with a simple google query then why are there so many of them?
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> The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
>
> [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> U.S. Embassy Workers
>
> Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
>
> Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> Aug 2019):
>
> [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
>
> [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
>
> [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
>
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The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):

[The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
U.S. Embassy Workers

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html

********************************************************************************************

Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

[3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming

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[Roger Heflin]

Well,

5 generations of intel are probably at best 2x faster, so a guess
would be 5 hours with that cpu.   To get to 3 hours you would have to
add more cores.   You can look at posted benchmarks for various cpus,
there are specific benchmarks that are encoding video benchmark to get
an idea.

I also suspect that that video card may be able to run more than 1
stream/conversion as without slowing down much as the time the cpu is
preparing work for it is "idle".   The consumer cards are supposed to
allow 2 streams at the same time.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 1:11 PM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
> Subject: Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit
> Video Card Improves 4K Video Rendering Speeds by LEAPS AND BOUNDS!
>
> Good day from Singapore,
>
> I have just bought a Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB
> GDDR5 128Bit with/Display Port/HDMI/DVI-D/CoolingFan video card for
> SGD$230 (after some bargaining) at a 4th story computer shop in Sim
> Lim Square in Singapore,Singapore on 29th September 2019 Sunday
> Singapore Time.
>
> Prior to buying the above-mentioned video card, I was using the
> Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6450 video card. Rendering a 2-hour 4K video
> with this ultra cheapo video card (GPU acceleration of video
> processing TURNED OFF) took MORE THAN TEN (10) hours!
>
> The technical specifications of my ancient and primitive home desktop
> computer are:
>
> [01] 5th Generation Intel Core i7-5820K Extreme Edition Processor with
> 6 cores and 12 threads @ 3.30 GHz
>
> [02] MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition Motherboard LGA2011-3 Socket with
> Intel X99 chipset
>
> [03] 32 GB DDR4 Memory (Mixture of 4 sticks of Crucial and Kingston
> DDR4 memory sticks)
>
> [04] Windows 10 Home Edition version 1803 64-bit
>
> [05] Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum video rendering software
>
> As of 30th September 2019 Monday Singapore Time, Intel Corporation has
> already released 10th Generation Intel Core processors. I am truly
> very sorry that I am not able to afford upgrading from 5th Generation
> Intel Core processor systems to 10th Generation Intel Core processor
> systems. Hence I have to make do with buying Galax GeForce GTX1650
> EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card for SGD$230 at the
> moment.
>
> After removing the Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6450 video card from my home
> desktop computer, I installed the brand new Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1
> Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card immediately. Upon booting
> up Windows 10 Home Edition, I quickly turned on GPU Acceleration of
> Video Processing in Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum. I would choose
> all 4K video rendering templates with "NVIDIA NVENC".
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> [QUOTE] Nvidia NVENC is a feature in its graphics cards that performs
> video encoding, offloading this compute-intensive task from the CPU.
> It was introduced with the Kepler-based GeForce 600 series in March
> 2012.[1][2]
>
> The encoder is supported in many streaming and recording programs,
> such as Wirecast, Open Broadcaster Software (OBS) and Bandicam, and
> also works with Share game capture, which is included in Nvidia's
> GeForce Experience software.[3][4][5]
>
> Consumer targeted GeForce graphics cards officially support no more
> than 2 simultaneously encoding video streams, regardless of the count
> of the cards installed, but this restriction can be circumvented on
> Linux and Windows systems by applying an unofficial patch to the
> drivers[6]. Professional cards support between 2 and 21 simultaneous
> streams per card, depending on card model and compression quality.[1]
> [/QUOTE]
>
> And WOW! Rendering a 2 hour 19 minute 4K Ultra HD video (taken with my
> Samsung NX500 4K camera) with Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC
> PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card took only 3 hours and 30 minutes!!!
> This is a vast and tremendous improvement from the past of taking MORE
> THAN 10 hours to render a 2-hour 4K video without any GPU Acceleration
> of video processing!
>
> What do you think would happen if I am able to afford upgrading to a
> 10th Generation Intel Core home desktop computer?
>
> Greetings from Singapore!
>
> On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:55, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > Thanks for the tip!
> >
> > So I think if I get the GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GDDR5 video card, I
> > should see vastly substantial improvements also.
> >
> > On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:45, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> > > On 9/28/19 6:41 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > > I am afraid I cannot find GeForce GTX 660 in Singapore any more. It is
> > > > already obsolete many years ago.
> > >
> > > Yes, that is my point.  Even with an older card I see substantial improvement when using the GPU as opposed to my CPU.  So, you should good results.
> > >
> > > --
> > > If simple questions can be answered with a simple google query then why are there so many of them?
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
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> >
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> >
> > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
> >
> > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > U.S. Embassy Workers
> >
> > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> >
> > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > Aug 2019):
> >
> > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> >
> > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> >
> > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
> >
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>
> -----BEGIN EMAIL SIGNATURE-----
>
> The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
>
> [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> U.S. Embassy Workers
>
> Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
>
> Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> Aug 2019):
>
> [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
>
> [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
>
> [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
>
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[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

Hi Roger Heflin,

To see even more drastic and dramatic improvements in 4K video
rendering speeds after buying Galax GTX1650 4 GB GDDR5 video card, I
would need to get my hands on the 10th generation Intel Core
i9-10900KF processor with 10 cores and 20 threads already. This
investment would cost me at least a few thousand Singapore dollars, an
amount which I sadly and totally cannot afford.

On Mon, 30 Sep 2019 at 06:39, Roger Heflin  wrote:
> Well,
>
> 5 generations of intel are probably at best 2x faster, so a guess
> would be 5 hours with that cpu.   To get to 3 hours you would have to
> add more cores.   You can look at posted benchmarks for various cpus,
> there are specific benchmarks that are encoding video benchmark to get
> an idea.
>
> I also suspect that that video card may be able to run more than 1
> stream/conversion as without slowing down much as the time the cpu is
> preparing work for it is "idle".   The consumer cards are supposed to
> allow 2 streams at the same time.
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 1:11 PM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
> > Subject: Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit
> > Video Card Improves 4K Video Rendering Speeds by LEAPS AND BOUNDS!
> >
> > Good day from Singapore,
> >
> > I have just bought a Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB
> > GDDR5 128Bit with/Display Port/HDMI/DVI-D/CoolingFan video card for
> > SGD$230 (after some bargaining) at a 4th story computer shop in Sim
> > Lim Square in Singapore,Singapore on 29th September 2019 Sunday
> > Singapore Time.
> >
> > Prior to buying the above-mentioned video card, I was using the
> > Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6450 video card. Rendering a 2-hour 4K video
> > with this ultra cheapo video card (GPU acceleration of video
> > processing TURNED OFF) took MORE THAN TEN (10) hours!
> >
> > The technical specifications of my ancient and primitive home desktop
> > computer are:
> >
> > [01] 5th Generation Intel Core i7-5820K Extreme Edition Processor with
> > 6 cores and 12 threads @ 3.30 GHz
> >
> > [02] MSI X99A SLI Krait Edition Motherboard LGA2011-3 Socket with
> > Intel X99 chipset
> >
> > [03] 32 GB DDR4 Memory (Mixture of 4 sticks of Crucial and Kingston
> > DDR4 memory sticks)
> >
> > [04] Windows 10 Home Edition version 1803 64-bit
> >
> > [05] Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum video rendering software
> >
> > As of 30th September 2019 Monday Singapore Time, Intel Corporation has
> > already released 10th Generation Intel Core processors. I am truly
> > very sorry that I am not able to afford upgrading from 5th Generation
> > Intel Core processor systems to 10th Generation Intel Core processor
> > systems. Hence I have to make do with buying Galax GeForce GTX1650
> > EX-1 Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card for SGD$230 at the
> > moment.
> >
> > After removing the Sapphire AMD Radeon HD6450 video card from my home
> > desktop computer, I installed the brand new Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1
> > Click OC PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card immediately. Upon booting
> > up Windows 10 Home Edition, I quickly turned on GPU Acceleration of
> > Video Processing in Vegas Movie Studio 15.0 Platinum. I would choose
> > all 4K video rendering templates with "NVIDIA NVENC".
> >
> > From Wikipedia:
> >
> > [QUOTE] Nvidia NVENC is a feature in its graphics cards that performs
> > video encoding, offloading this compute-intensive task from the CPU.
> > It was introduced with the Kepler-based GeForce 600 series in March
> > 2012.[1][2]
> >
> > The encoder is supported in many streaming and recording programs,
> > such as Wirecast, Open Broadcaster Software (OBS) and Bandicam, and
> > also works with Share game capture, which is included in Nvidia's
> > GeForce Experience software.[3][4][5]
> >
> > Consumer targeted GeForce graphics cards officially support no more
> > than 2 simultaneously encoding video streams, regardless of the count
> > of the cards installed, but this restriction can be circumvented on
> > Linux and Windows systems by applying an unofficial patch to the
> > drivers[6]. Professional cards support between 2 and 21 simultaneous
> > streams per card, depending on card model and compression quality.[1]
> > [/QUOTE]
> >
> > And WOW! Rendering a 2 hour 19 minute 4K Ultra HD video (taken with my
> > Samsung NX500 4K camera) with Galax GeForce GTX1650 EX-1 Click OC
> > PCI-E 4 GB GDDR5 128Bit video card took only 3 hours and 30 minutes!!!
> > This is a vast and tremendous improvement from the past of taking MORE
> > THAN 10 hours to render a 2-hour 4K video without any GPU Acceleration
> > of video processing!
> >
> > What do you think would happen if I am able to afford upgrading to a
> > 10th Generation Intel Core home desktop computer?
> >
> > Greetings from Singapore!
> >
> > On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:55, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > Thanks for the tip!
> > >
> > > So I think if I get the GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB GDDR5 video card, I
> > > should see vastly substantial improvements also.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 28 Sep 2019 at 18:45, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> > > > On 9/28/19 6:41 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> > > > > I am afraid I cannot find GeForce GTX 660 in Singapore any more. It is
> > > > > already obsolete many years ago.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, that is my point.  Even with an older card I see substantial improvement when using the GPU as opposed to my CPU.  So, you should good results.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > If simple questions can be answered with a simple google query then why are there so many of them?
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
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> > >
> > > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
> > >
> > > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > > U.S. Embassy Workers
> > >
> > > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> > >
> > > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > > Aug 2019):
> > >
> > > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> > >
> > > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
> > >
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> >
> > The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):
> >
> > [The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
> > U.S. Embassy Workers
> >
> > Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html
> >
> > Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
> > Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
> > United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
> > Aug 2019):
> >
> > [1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/
> >
> > [2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/
> >
> > [3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming
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The Gospel for all Targeted Individuals (TIs):

[The New York Times] Microwave Weapons Are Prime Suspect in Ills of
U.S. Embassy Workers

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/01/science/sonic-attack-cuba-microwave.html

********************************************************************************************

Singaporean Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic
Qualifications as at 14 Feb 2019 and refugee seeking attempts at the
United Nations Refugee Agency Bangkok (21 Mar 2017) and in Taiwan (5
Aug 2019):

[1] https://tdtemcerts.wordpress.com/

[2] https://tdtemcerts.blogspot.sg/

[3] https://www.scribd.com/user/270125049/Teo-En-Ming

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