I ended up going for upper-medium lower-high end, which is what i think this laptop is.
I'd appreciate any feedback on it. One thing i'm anticipating is that xorg won't work right off (not 3D anyway), and that i'll need to get proprietary ATI driver. Could somebody confirm if it works well? ATI appears to have made a good effort on that driver, but that's just my impression from their website.
P.S. Btw., for those who are looking, Dell appears to have a good deal on this laptop till 08/31. It's the best deal i found for those specs. If you are looking at the $850 range, the best deal i found there is HP Pavillion ze2000t (i looked at deals w/ S-Video only) .
Thanks.
Reshat Sabiq wrote:
I ended up going for upper-medium lower-high end, which is what i think this laptop is.
I'd appreciate any feedback on it. One thing i'm anticipating is that xorg won't work right off (not 3D anyway), and that i'll need to get proprietary ATI driver. Could somebody confirm if it works well? ATI appears to have made a good effort on that driver, but that's just my impression from their website.
P.S. Btw., for those who are looking, Dell appears to have a good deal on this laptop till 08/31. It's the best deal i found for those specs. If you are looking at the $850 range, the best deal i found there is HP Pavillion ze2000t (i looked at deals w/ S-Video only) .
Thanks.
Actually, the ATI website only mentions X300 for desktops. I'm finding some references saying xorg radeon driver works well (including hardware acceleration) for X300, however, i haven't seen a definitive answer.
Actually, the latest driver supports it, according to ATI website: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledg... http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html
I vaguely remember other people asking about it, so this is probably a good news for many.
Thanks.
Reshat Sabiq wrote:
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:20:03 -0600
Reshat Sabiq wrote:
I ended up going for upper-medium lower-high end, which is what i think this laptop is.
I'd appreciate any feedback on it. One thing i'm anticipating is that xorg won't work right off (not 3D anyway), and that i'll need to get proprietary ATI driver. Could somebody confirm if it works well? ATI appears to have made a good effort on that driver, but that's just my impression from their website.
P.S. Btw., for those who are looking, Dell appears to have a good deal on this laptop till 08/31. It's the best deal i found for those specs. If you are looking at the $850 range, the best deal i found there is HP Pavillion ze2000t (i looked at deals w/ S-Video only) .
Thanks.
Actually, the ATI website only mentions X300 for desktops. I'm finding some references saying xorg radeon driver works well (including hardware acceleration) for X300, however, i haven't seen a definitive answer.
After being burned by the ATI WWW site and their driver, I would look at true user feedback before trusting it. ATI support for their cards does not mean all features are supported. Like lack of 3D. For me, I will avoid ATI video cards for now. This puts a limit on notebooks but that is just life.
Buyer beware.
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Robin Laing wrote:
After being burned by the ATI WWW site and their driver, I would look at true user feedback before trusting it. ATI support for their cards does not mean all features are supported. Like lack of 3D. For me, I will avoid ATI video cards for now. This puts a limit on notebooks but that is just life.
Buyer beware.
Robin Laing
Yes, i'd appreciate user feedback. As i mentioned, the latest driver lists Mobility X300 as a supported graphics card. Also, the only 3D issues listed on the site are the following: 1. if "force multi-sample visuals" option enabled in fglrxconfig 2. POSIX Shared Memory is disabled
It appears both of these issues can be easily avoided. But again, i'd appreciate any feedback from actual users of X300 on laptops.
Reshat Sabiq wrote:
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Robin Laing wrote:
After being burned by the ATI WWW site and their driver, I would look at true user feedback before trusting it. ATI support for their cards does not mean all features are supported. Like lack of 3D. For me, I will avoid ATI video cards for now. This puts a limit on notebooks but that is just life.
Buyer beware.
Robin Laing
Yes, i'd appreciate user feedback. As i mentioned, the latest driver lists Mobility X300 as a supported graphics card. Also, the only 3D issues listed on the site are the following:
- if "force multi-sample visuals" option enabled in fglrxconfig
- POSIX Shared Memory is disabled
It appears both of these issues can be easily avoided. But again, i'd appreciate any feedback from actual users of X300 on laptops.
I think there is a good chance that Mobility X300 support in the proprietary driver includes 3D, and hardware acceletation: *Q1:* * What features are provided by the ATI Proprietary Linux Driver? * *A1:*
The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently provides hardware acceleration for 3D graphics and video playback. It also includes support for dual displays and TV Output.
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 10:46 -0500, Reshat Sabiq wrote:
But again, i'd appreciate any feedback from actual users of X300 on laptops.
Ok, since you asked...
The proprietary ATI driver, as obtained from Livna, works for my laptop (Fujitsu N3510, X300 64MB video RAM, 1280x800). 3D performance is much better than expected (i.e. better than my desktop: Athlon 2600+ w/ Nvidia GeForce 5200) and TV out works as well. I haven't tried an external VGA monitor yet.
The only thing I haven't gotten to work is ACPI resume, but the complete lack of ACPI action scripts in FC4 has me a bit lost there anyway. I fished a few scripts off the web but they all fail somewhere else. To be fair, I haven't put much effort into it yet, since it's not high priority for me. Anyway, this is the one thing I found not to work with the ATI driver.
Hope this helps, Steffen.
Steffen Kluge wrote:
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 10:46 -0500, Reshat Sabiq wrote:
But again, i'd appreciate any feedback from actual users of X300 on laptops.
Ok, since you asked...
The proprietary ATI driver, as obtained from Livna, works for my laptop (Fujitsu N3510, X300 64MB video RAM, 1280x800). 3D performance is much better than expected (i.e. better than my desktop: Athlon 2600+ w/ Nvidia GeForce 5200) and TV out works as well. I haven't tried an external VGA monitor yet.
Great!
The only thing I haven't gotten to work is ACPI resume, but the complete lack of ACPI action scripts in FC4 has me a bit lost there anyway. I fished a few scripts off the web but they all fail somewhere else. To be fair, I haven't put much effort into it yet, since it's not high priority for me. Anyway, this is the one thing I found not to work with the ATI driver.
Do you mean suspend to memory or suspend to disk? The former doesn't work on most linux installs, as far as i know. The latter is becoming more and more widespread. I think you'd have more luck w/ the latter. Did resume work for you w/ a generic VESA driver? On my current laptop, i haven't even bothered to get software suspend to work yet: it required replacing FC kernel w/ a vanilla one. Btw., are there any popular distros that ship w/ suspend2 or something like that?
Hope this helps, Steffen.
I'm looking forward to my new laptop. I even read about a Control Panel in ATI driver. ;)
Thanks!
On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 00:38 -0500, Reshat Sabiq wrote:
Do you mean suspend to memory or suspend to disk?
So far I've only tried suspend-to-ram. That's what used to work in APM days. I haven't started reading about suspend-to-disk, I have no idea what that requires.
The former doesn't work on most linux installs, as far as i know. The latter is becoming more and more widespread.
Hmm, time to look into it, then. Does it need to be supported by the laptop?
I think you'd have more luck w/ the latter. Did resume work for you w/ a generic VESA driver?
I have never used the VESA driver, only xorg's own radeon driver. I didn't try suspend with that one yet. I might give it a shot, so far I stuck to the ATI driver, since it works so well otherwise.
Cheers Steffen.
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