Re: Fedora Extras is extra

[javajunkie]

>  Apparently you're missed the point.  These other repositories
> have
>  been 
>  around a lot longer and have many more dedicated users than Fedora 
>  Extras currently has.  They also have better reputations for 
>  compatibility and interoperability.  If you go to my original message
>  on 
>  the thread, you will see this URL:
>  
>  <http://www.fedora.us/wiki/RepositoryMixingProblems> 
Yes, I did miss the point a little and THAT is the point.


>  The only advice that I can give is that you should see what other 
>  repositories people are combining and use that as your basis.  

Ok I get it now.  But coming to Fedora and reading the link above, how
would anyone know that there are other combinations or alternatives to
fedora.us?

I would expect that this concept be part of the documentation.  Maybe
you all are so used to how repositories work that these notions are
second nature already but for some (perhaps many) of us -- to not inform
us on the fedora pages of the alternatives is a disservice to the
community.

If fedora.us does not want to work with ATRPMS for whatever reason, I am
not the one to quibble with them.  Still, the Fedora docs are lacking in
terms of an explanation about other solutions. 

As it is now, the documentation at
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/updates/ is sadly in need of being updated
to reflect the realities of what is going on.  Why can't the fedora.us
people at the very least acknowledge the other repositories so we users
can get a better picture of what our options for obtaining the packages
we need really are. 

This original post started with a flame on the behavior of fedora.us and
now I understand why.  The seem a little strong armed in their approach
and losing sight of the big picture (increased linux adoption).     
  

>  the Fedora Extras 
>  subproject's  
>  Perhaps 
>  it would also be good to contact the repositories' mailing lists or 
>  maintainers and ask them specifically which other repositories are
>  they 
>  cooperating with to try to maintain interoperability.  I use
>  FreshRPMs 
>  (the most popular repository for Fedora Core) and Planet CCRMA, and 
>  those two are working together.  I'm sure that some others are, you 
>  might find some answers elsewhere on this thread. 
Thanks for the info.  I needed it.

-- 
Shawn <javajunkie(a)koyuru.com&gt;

Fedora Extras is extra

[Scott]

Shawn wrote:

>   
>
> >The only advice that I can give is that you should see what other 
> >repositories people are combining and use that as your basis. 
> >    
> >
>
>
> Ok I get it now.  But coming to Fedora and reading the link above, how
> would anyone know that there are other combinations or alternatives to
> fedora.us?
>
>   
>  
Um.. research?

Actually,  I was aware of FreshRPMS *before* I was aware of  Fedora.us 
(thanks to a book I'd been reading on Linux/Fedora Core).  Most of what 
I've picked up on Fedora though has been after I installed it and just 
started scouring the net for information.   I've developed quite an 
extensive list or bookmarks related to Fedora and (obviously) found and 
made use of this mailing list.

Fedora Extras is extra

[Alex White]

Scott wrote:
>  Um.. research?
>  
>  Actually,  I was aware of FreshRPMS *before* I was aware of  Fedora.us 
>  (thanks to a book I'd been reading on Linux/Fedora Core).  Most of what 
>  I've picked up on Fedora though has been after I installed it and just 
>  started scouring the net for information.   I've developed quite an 
>  extensive list or bookmarks related to Fedora and (obviously) found and 
>  made use of this mailing list.
>   
Scott, could you do me a favor and pass along those bookmarks to 
me? I have a slew of bookmarks myself but I'd like to compare if 
at all possible. The truly obvious ones like, tldp.org and what 
not can be omitted if you're interested in sharing those resources.

Sincerely,

Alex White

Fedora Extras is extra

[Scott]

Alex White wrote:

>  Scott wrote:
>
> > Um.. research?
> >
> > Actually,  I was aware of FreshRPMS *before* I was aware of  
> > Fedora.us (thanks to a book I'd been reading on Linux/Fedora Core).  
> > Most of what I've picked up on Fedora though has been after I 
> > installed it and just started scouring the net for information.   
> > I've developed quite an extensive list or bookmarks related to Fedora 
> > and (obviously) found and made use of this mailing list.
> >
>
>  Scott, could you do me a favor and pass along those bookmarks to me? I 
>  have a slew of bookmarks myself but I'd like to compare if at all 
>  possible. The truly obvious ones like, tldp.org and what not can be 
>  omitted if you're interested in sharing those resources.
>
>  Sincerely,
>
>  Alex White
>  
If you can suggest an easy way to do that, sure.....

Fedora Extras is extra

[Alex White]

Scott wrote:
>  If you can suggest an easy way to do that, sure.....
>   
What browser are you using? I can attempt to give you a quick 
and dirty way of doing it. If it's firefox then you can copy 
your bookmarks.html file and just remove any bookmarks that you 
don't feel are relevant or somethin' similar to that. Cuzz you 
know, I have no desire to see your 127 bookmarks on sushi lol j/k

If you don't know where that file is, it's mmm in 
/home/username/.mozilla/firefox/saltnumber.default/bookmarks.html

Mind the line wrapping if you would. Then you can look at it and 
edit it as you please and send it my way. If you like. If it 
gets all complicated and what not, then don't sweat it man. Thanks.

Alex White

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[Scott]

Alex White wrote:

>  Scott wrote:
>
> > If you can suggest an easy way to do that, sure.....
> >
>
>  What browser are you using? I can attempt to give you a quick and 
>  dirty way of doing it. If it's firefox then you can copy your 
>  bookmarks.html file and just remove any bookmarks that you don't feel 
>  are relevant or somethin' similar to that. 

Tbat was the only way I'd had in mind.  It just seemed a bit complcated. 
Especially considering I have *hundreds* of Bookmarks.

Fedora Extras is extra

[Alex White]

Scott wrote:

>  Tbat was the only way I'd had in mind.  It just seemed a bit
> complcated. 
>  Especially considering I have *hundreds* of Bookmarks.
>   
Hundreds? Jeez. Okay, well don't sweat it. It's not all that 
important I was just kind of curious what other people had out 
there. I'm not tryin' to complicate anyone's life or anything 
*chuckles*

Thanks Anyhow,

Alex White