i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally got a copy of F10 for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the desktop choices are back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure was there in F10 preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
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On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:44 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally got a copy of F10 for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the desktop choices are back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure was there in F10 preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
rday
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I am just doing yum install xfce*
Not booted it yet !
John
--- On Wed, 11/26/08, John Austin ja@jaa.org.uk wrote:
From: John Austin ja@jaa.org.uk Subject: Re: f10: what happened to XFCE? To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:54 AM On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:44 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally
got a copy of F10
for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the
desktop choices are
back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure
was there in F10
preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
rday
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Pedantry:
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I am just doing yum install xfce*
Not booted it yet !
John
But that is different from having xfce as an option: currently, it appears that one would have to install all the non-essential packages with Gnome and KDE in order to have XFCE.
There is a torrent option available on the Custom spins at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ is there a non-torrent option possible?
Best, Trotter.
Globe Trotter wrote:
There is a torrent option available on the Custom spins at http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ is there a non-torrent option possible?
As I understand it, custom spins are torrent-only (else fedora's mirrors would blow up).
-- Rex
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, John Austin wrote:
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:44 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally got a copy of F10 for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the desktop choices are back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure was there in F10 preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
rday
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I am just doing yum install xfce*
Not booted it yet !
but that doesn't address the original issue -- that both XFCE (and Sugar for that matter) were choices in the preview and aren't in f10. and i noticed some package shuffling and new packages listed i'm sure weren't there before -- "mock", for instance.
not a big deal, but i sort of thought that a "preview" was meant to be as close to an immutable freeze as possible, and wouldn't allow major changes like package selections to be modified.
rday --
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On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:44 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally got a copy of F10 for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the desktop choices are back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure was there in F10 preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
I don't recall the package listing in the DVD image including these options in the preview either. Xfce hasn't been in the DVD images for quite a few releases now. Use the Xfce live cd or do a post-installation.
Rahul
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:44 -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally got a copy of F10 for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the desktop choices are back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure was there in F10 preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
I don't recall the package listing in the DVD image including these options in the preview either. Xfce hasn't been in the DVD images for quite a few releases now. Use the Xfce live cd or do a post-installation.
seriously? i did a number of installs with the preview DVDs, and i distinctly recall the desktop choices being:
* gnome * kde * sugar * xfce
am i just on drugs or what?
rday --
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Robert P. J. Day rpjday@crashcourse.ca wrote:
From: Robert P. J. Day rpjday@crashcourse.ca Subject: Re: f10: what happened to XFCE? To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 7:50 AM On Wed, 26 Nov 2008, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On Wed, 2008-11-26 at 07:44 -0500, Robert P.
J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained
somewhere but i finally got a copy
of F10 for i386 and the first thing i
noticed is that the
desktop choices are back to just GNOME
and KDE -- XFCE, which
i'm sure was there in F10 preview,
is gone. or am i imagining
things?
I don't recall the package listing in the DVD
image including these
options in the preview either. Xfce hasn't been in
the DVD images
for quite a few releases now. Use the Xfce live cd or
do a
post-installation.
seriously? i did a number of installs with the preview DVDs, and i distinctly recall the desktop choices being:
- gnome
- kde
- sugar
- xfce
am i just on drugs or what?
Nope, I saw those choices too. Am I on drugs too?
rday
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Antonio
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) olivares14031@yahoo.com (Antonio Olivares) wrote:
seriously? i did a number of installs with the preview DVDs, and i distinctly recall the desktop choices being:
- gnome
- kde
- sugar
- xfce
am i just on drugs or what?
Nope, I saw those choices too. Am I on drugs too?
This was due to a bug in anaconda in preview/beta... it would offer those groups if ANY package from them was available on the media. (This bug was also in F9)
It was fixed before final.
If you tried to install Xfce from the regular media it would happily install the one package that was on the media and leave it at that. You would not really get Xfce as it's not on the main media.
Just install the Xfce live, or install any other spin/media and do: 'yum groupinstall xfce-desktop'
Hope that clears things up.
kevin
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 11:19:28 am Kevin Fenzi wrote:
snip
Just install the Xfce live, or install any other spin/media and do: 'yum groupinstall xfce-desktop'
Hope that clears things up.
kevin
Thank you, Kevin. I wasn't aware of the groupinstall command. It worked like a champ. I started with a Live (Gnome) CD install, did the groupinstall, then loaded switchdesk and switchdesk-gui, and was up and running within a half-hour.
A hint to anyone installing xfce: You will get an ugly message if you try to access the Window Manager or Window Manager Tweaks apps, "These settings cannot work with your current window manager (imsetting -xim)". The fix is to do yum remove imsettings -- it will take a bunch of other files with it. (Not my idea -- it's from the Fedora Project wiki as linked to from the Release Notes.)
-- cmg
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:27:10 -0500 cgrigs@earthlink.net (Carroll Grigsby) wrote:
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 11:19:28 am Kevin Fenzi wrote:
snip
Just install the Xfce live, or install any other spin/media and do: 'yum groupinstall xfce-desktop'
Hope that clears things up.
kevin
Thank you, Kevin. I wasn't aware of the groupinstall command. It worked like a champ. I started with a Live (Gnome) CD install, did the groupinstall, then loaded switchdesk and switchdesk-gui, and was up and running within a half-hour.
Great. Glad to hear it.
A hint to anyone installing xfce: You will get an ugly message if you try to access the Window Manager or Window Manager Tweaks apps, "These settings cannot work with your current window manager (imsetting -xim)". The fix is to do yum remove imsettings -- it will take a bunch of other files with it. (Not my idea -- it's from the Fedora Project wiki as linked to from the Release Notes.)
yeah, it's a weird gtk2 bug. See the link in the common bugs page on the wiki if you want to follow along. Hopefully we can come up with a better workaround or fix soon.
-- cmg
kevin
On Wednesday 26 November 2008 06:44:03 am Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm sure this is explained somewhere but i finally got a copy of F10 for i386 and the first thing i noticed is that the desktop choices are back to just GNOME and KDE -- XFCE, which i'm sure was there in F10 preview, is gone. or am i imagining things?
enable the Everything repo and it wil be there.
Dennis
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