RE: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

It depends on several crucial points.

1)      For how long do you need 50 TB (months, a year, several years, for-ever)

2)      How quickly do you need to retrieve

3)      Reliability

4)      Sensitivity

4-> Depending on WHAT you are going to store, it might be that you are simply not even allowed to store it in some cloud
2-> Tape might be an option, if you can wait a day or so ☺
1-> This defines your financial break-even-point
If it is for a short while, you might look for external storage,
But when paying hundreds per month, for several years…

When you think of local (self) storage, you should definitely look at CEPH-cluster technology: reliable storage, affordable, and master in scalability
With 5 machines as OSD, each holding four 6TB-drives, and a couple of monitors, you could get away with it

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From: Eddie O'Connor [mailto:[e-mail]]
Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2019 12:19
To: Community support for Fedora users
Cc: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils down to what you want to deal with more (or less)....the amount of times you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?....or the reliance on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which fall a little more under your control.
Just sayin'...

EGO II

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <[e-mail] wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > USD$50 per year.
>
> I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
>
> Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> as expected.
> No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> time to time - if the data matters, DIY.

Hi Andy,

Noted above statement with thanks.
> --
> Andy
>
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Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data

[Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming]

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:32 PM  wrote:
> It depends on several crucial points.
>  For how long do you need 50 TB (months, a year, several years, for-ever)

Forever.
>  How quickly do you need to retrieve

Infrequent retrieval.
>  Reliability

100% reliability.
>  Sensitivity

Personal data.
> 4-> Depending on WHAT you are going to store, it might be that you are simply not even allowed to store it in some cloud
>
> 2-> Tape might be an option, if you can wait a day or so J
>
> 1-> This defines your financial break-even-point
>
> If it is for a short while, you might look for external storage,
>
> But when paying hundreds per month, for several years…
>
> When you think of local (self) storage, you should definitely look at CEPH-cluster technology: reliable storage, affordable, and master in scalability
>
> With 5 machines as OSD, each holding four 6TB-drives, and a couple of monitors, you could get away with it

I am going to google CEPH-cluster technology to know what it is.
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Hans Witvliet, J, Ing., DMO/OPS/I&S/APH, Kennis Team Opensource
>
> Coldenhovelaan 1 Maasland 3531RC Coldehovelaan 1, kamer B213
>
> From: Eddie O'Connor [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2019 12:19
> To: Community support for Fedora users
> Cc: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> Subject: Re: Please Recommend Affordable and Reliable Cloud Storage for 50 TB of Data
>
> I think DIY is the best route. While some corporations are willing to risk having their data exposed (FB/Cambridge Analytical et al. ) and others can pay the financial price for having their data seen by others, it always boils down to what you want to deal with more (or less)....the amount of times you'll have to explain how some cloud provider screwed up?....or the reliance on your own backups...on your own schedule..and secured through means which fall a little more under your control.
>
> Just sayin'...
>
> EGO II
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019, 4:11 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <[e-mail] wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 5:04 PM Andy Blanchard  wrote:
> > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 08:49, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> >  wrote:
> > > How about a budget of USD$100 per year? I am increasing my budget from
> > > USD$50 per year.
> >
> > I doubt you're going to find a reputable and reliable provider that
> > will do 50TB for less than $150 per *month*. Might be worth checkout
> > BackBlaze though as they are probably the best option right now for
> > this kind of backup, although it does depend on which of their plans
> > you'll fall under.  Another option could be rental of a VPS+storage
> > array or an EC2 type instance from one of the smaller providers, but
> > that amount of disk is still going to be a killer.
> >
> > Realistically, I think your cheapest and most reliable option is going
> > to be to buy some backup hardware and a bunch of tapes.  Come up with
> > a suitable on-site/off-site backup strategy for the media, cycle your
> > tapes, and *regularly* verify that you can restore the data from them
> > as expected.
> > No matter how reliable and well funded the hosting
> > business is, you're still giving up an awful lot of control sticking
> > backups into the cloud, and even the big players can lose data from
> > time to time - if the data matters, DIY.
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> Noted above statement with thanks.
> > --
> > Andy
> >
> > The only person to have all his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html
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