OT: recommendations for a low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31
Hi,
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
Many thanks, Ranjan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 5:09 PM Ranjan Maitra maitra@email.com wrote:
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
I've been using an HP Envy 4510 for the last few years. It's an inkjet printer/scanner and works well with CUPS.
On 09.01.20 23:05, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
...
cheap to maintain: I would suggest a S/W Laser (=> start and print without hassle [dried in ink])
Duplex (spares the wood), LAN, toner drum (wording ? ) buildin the cartridge would be a benefit.
bought a Samsung ML-2851ND 10 years ago, 130 € !
before buy have a look at:
http://www.openprinting.org/printers
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:05 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
You should probably say what kind of things are important to you. Colour, printing photos, or just documents...
I use a second-hand Hewlett Packard laser printer. The older ones are built like a tank, and last forever.
Inkjet's can be a problem with low-volume printing, the ink can dry out or gunk up between use (depends on how little you print), but even if you use it often enough to avoid that, they waste much of their tiny amount of expensive ink during their cleaning routine. Laser toner is much more cost effective than ink.
About the only cost effective inkjets are the ones with the large outboard ink tanks, with continuous feed tubes to the head. Their large refill bottles are about the only ones that are not a monumental rip off, and you only have to top up the tanks that are actually low on ink.
But you still have to contend with the clogged heads that plague inkjets. Remember that issue's made worse with cheap and nasty paper.
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 20:26 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:05 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
You should probably say what kind of things are important to you. Colour, printing photos, or just documents...
I use a second-hand Hewlett Packard laser printer. The older ones are built like a tank, and last forever.
Inkjet's can be a problem with low-volume printing, the ink can dry out or gunk up between use (depends on how little you print), but even if you use it often enough to avoid that, they waste much of their tiny amount of expensive ink during their cleaning routine. Laser toner is much more cost effective than ink.
About the only cost effective inkjets are the ones with the large outboard ink tanks, with continuous feed tubes to the head. Their large refill bottles are about the only ones that are not a monumental rip off, and you only have to top up the tanks that are actually low on ink.
But you still have to contend with the clogged heads that plague inkjets. Remember that issue's made worse with cheap and nasty paper.
I agree with all the above. I have a cheap Brother all-in-one that's worked for the past 5 years and costs me under £10 for a replacement toner cartridge that will do 500-1000 sheets (third party via Amazon). Coincidentally, I read an article today saying that HP may be considering moving away from the "razor blade" model for inkjets (i.e. cheap printers and expensive ink) because it's no longer good business - people are printing things like tickets and vouchers much less than they used to because everything's on their phones - so we may see inkjet printer prices going up.
poc
Thanks very much! Sorry, the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
Ranjan
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 20:26:23 +1030 Tim via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:05 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
You should probably say what kind of things are important to you. Colour, printing photos, or just documents...
I use a second-hand Hewlett Packard laser printer. The older ones are built like a tank, and last forever.
Inkjet's can be a problem with low-volume printing, the ink can dry out or gunk up between use (depends on how little you print), but even if you use it often enough to avoid that, they waste much of their tiny amount of expensive ink during their cleaning routine. Laser toner is much more cost effective than ink.
About the only cost effective inkjets are the ones with the large outboard ink tanks, with continuous feed tubes to the head. Their large refill bottles are about the only ones that are not a monumental rip off, and you only have to top up the tanks that are actually low on ink.
But you still have to contend with the clogged heads that plague inkjets. Remember that issue's made worse with cheap and nasty paper.
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:25:57AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much! Sorry, the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
I have two Brother printers in-house, a HL-L2360D and a DCP7065DN. The former is a standalone printer, the latter is a multifunction device. Both support duplex printin--important for saving trees!
The 2360D can be used without Brother's drivers by judicious selection of drivers that CUPS offers. At the moment I forget which one it is that works well there. Haven't tried that with the 7065DN, as it also needs "drivers" for the scanner that I doubt exist in FOSS-land.
Both work well using Brother's Linux drivers.
I'm sure there are other low-cost laser printers out there that work with Linux but am not familiar with them.
On 1/10/20 7:25 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much! Sorry, the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
If you don't need color, then there are some nice, cheap laser printers around, especially if you watch for sales. I've picked up HP ones for around $100CAD.
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
I'd say laser is the better option. For text, they usually print better than inkjet do. And you don't get smudging with moisture like ink does.
Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find drivers for them. Other brands may only work with their own special drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at the time they released their printer. That's if they even make a Linux driver.
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
I'd say laser is the better option. For text, they usually print better than inkjet do. And you don't get smudging with moisture like ink does.
Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find drivers for them. Other brands may only work with their own special drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at the time they released their printer. That's if they even make a Linux driver.
That's probably good general advice, but I'll just repeat that my all- in-one from Brother is just short of 6 years old and the proprietary driver still works with F31, both for scanning and printing. At the time it was markedly cheaper than the HP alternative, though that may or may not be the case now.
poc
On 1/11/20 9:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
I'd say laser is the better option. For text, they usually print better than inkjet do. And you don't get smudging with moisture like ink does.
Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find drivers for them. Other brands may only work with their own special drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at the time they released their printer. That's if they even make a Linux driver.
That's probably good general advice, but I'll just repeat that my all- in-one from Brother is just short of 6 years old and the proprietary driver still works with F31, both for scanning and printing. At the time it was markedly cheaper than the HP alternative, though that may or may not be the case now.
I got a Brother color laser recently and it prints and scans great with the driver from Brother. Before that I had an HP color laser that also worked well.
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 7:15 PM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 1/11/20 9:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are goog suggestions then?
I'd say laser is the better option. For text, they usually print better than inkjet do. And you don't get smudging with moisture like ink does.
Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find drivers for them. Other brands may only work with their own special drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at the time they released their printer. That's if they even make a Linux driver.
That's probably good general advice, but I'll just repeat that my all- in-one from Brother is just short of 6 years old and the proprietary driver still works with F31, both for scanning and printing. At the time it was markedly cheaper than the HP alternative, though that may or may not be the case now.
I got a Brother color laser recently and it prints and scans great with the driver from Brother. Before that I had an HP color laser that also worked well.
I too have a very old (I know I've had it since before 2014 but that is as far as I remember) Brother laser printer I paid $50 shipped new. I've never installed a proprietary driver for it to work with cups. I honestly do not know if I ever replaced the toner cartridge, but I print so little a ream of paper lasts years. Small guy and does not do scanning or duplex though, but never let me down.
I have a Canon MX-922, which can usually be found cheaply. I buy ink at inkjets.com at a very reasonable price.
On 1/9/20 4:05 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
What would be a good low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31 and beyond?
Many thanks,
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