OT: Upgradeing Windows 7 to 10 on a Dual Boot System?

[Michael D. Setzer II]

My Classroom Lab at the College has Lenovo I7 computers that came with 
Windows 7 about 2 years ago. I changed them to dual boot with Fedora, and 
just recently upgraded them to Fedora 23. Never had any issues with the 
installation of the Fedora or doing updates. I wanted to check out the 
Windows 10 upgrade process on one machine, but have run into all kinds of 
issues.

1. Booting the Windows 7, the Windows 10 upgrade would just keep showing 
the option to request the upgrade and I would be notified. Never got any 
notification??
2. When thru some web pages, and found a link that was upgrade now, and 
it seemed to down and go thru the process of getting the Windows 10 files. 
Said it was going to reboot, and install. It rebooted, and still had the grub 
menu, so selected the windows option, and it seemed to be doing something, 
but then came up with an error message and said it could complete. Took me 
to a web page, but of couse the error number wasn't anywhere to be found 
there or on a search. Just restored the W7 image, so dual boot process is 
fine.

Are there any tricks to getting the upgrade to work with a dual boot setup. 
Don't know if the Windows 10 upgrade can not handle a grub boot loader 
setup?

Thanks.

Use Linux for all my courses, but other teachers sometimes need to do 
things on the windows, and wanted to at least take a look at it.

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[Kevin Cummings]

On 01/14/16 22:19, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> My Classroom Lab at the College has Lenovo I7 computers that came with 
> Windows 7 about 2 years ago. I changed them to dual boot with Fedora, and 
> just recently upgraded them to Fedora 23. Never had any issues with the 
> installation of the Fedora or doing updates. I wanted to check out the 
> Windows 10 upgrade process on one machine, but have run into all kinds of 
> issues.
> Booting the Windows 7, the Windows 10 upgrade would just keep showing
>
> the option to request the upgrade and I would be notified. Never got any 
> notification??

I upgraded both my wife's and my mother's computers to W10 for them
(both were windows only machines).  As I recall, at the time, Microsoft
would "log" the update request, and feed the update to the computers
while they were running over a period of time (kings a long and slow
download to help spread the load on the Microsoft servers).  So,
essentially, you'd have to boot W7, and leave it running until Microsoft
gets around to downloading the update to the machine.  After that,
you'll get both an email and a notification that the upgrade is ready to
be run.  You can then spend 1-2 hours waiting for the installation to
complete.  Along the way, it will reboot 3-4 times, and it expects that
the reboot process will directly reboot windows to continue the upgrade.

Based on that, you might want to disable the dual boot, upgrade windows,
then re-enable the dual boot.  (At a bare minimum, you might be able to
change the Grub loader to default to Windows until the upgrade is
finished.)  This assumes that Windows updates work in your dual boot
scenario without any problems, so the Windows upgrade should as well.
> When thru some web pages, and found a link that was upgrade now, and
>
> it seemed to down and go thru the process of getting the Windows 10 files. 
> Said it was going to reboot, and install. It rebooted, and still had the grub 
> menu, so selected the windows option, and it seemed to be doing something, 
> but then came up with an error message and said it could complete. Took me 
> to a web page, but of couse the error number wasn't anywhere to be found 
> there or on a search. Just restored the W7 image, so dual boot process is 
> fine.

Sorry, I run any Winows images in VMs on my Linux machines.  I don't do
dual boot anymore.  And Microsoft won't upgrade my XP images to W10.  B^)
> Are there any tricks to getting the upgrade to work with a dual boot setup. 
> Don't know if the Windows 10 upgrade can not handle a grub boot loader 
> setup?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Use Linux for all my courses, but other teachers sometimes need to do 
> things on the windows, and wanted to at least take a look at it.
>
> +----------------------------------------------------------+
>   Michael D. Setzer II -  Computer Science Instructor      
>   Guam Community College  Computer Center                  
>   mailto:[e-mail]                            
>   mailto:[e-mail]
>   http://www.guam.net/home/mikes
>   Guam - Where America's Day Begins                        
>   G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer 
>   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
> +----------------------------------------------------------+
>
> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original)
> Number of Seti Units Returned:  19,471
> Processing time:  32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes
> (Total Hours: 287,489)
>
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[Tod Merley]

potential issues: mbr uefi - many ways to solve none easy.

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Kevin Cummings <[e-mail]
> wrote:
> On 01/14/16 22:19, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> > My Classroom Lab at the College has Lenovo I7 computers that came with
> > Windows 7 about 2 years ago. I changed them to dual boot with Fedora, and
> > just recently upgraded them to Fedora 23. Never had any issues with the
> > installation of the Fedora or doing updates. I wanted to check out the
> > Windows 10 upgrade process on one machine, but have run into all kinds of
> > issues.
> > Booting the Windows 7, the Windows 10 upgrade would just keep showing
> >
> > the option to request the upgrade and I would be notified. Never got any
> > notification??
>
> I upgraded both my wife's and my mother's computers to W10 for them
> (both were windows only machines).  As I recall, at the time, Microsoft
> would "log" the update request, and feed the update to the computers
> while they were running over a period of time (kings a long and slow
> download to help spread the load on the Microsoft servers).  So,
> essentially, you'd have to boot W7, and leave it running until Microsoft
> gets around to downloading the update to the machine.  After that,
> you'll get both an email and a notification that the upgrade is ready to
> be run.  You can then spend 1-2 hours waiting for the installation to
> complete.  Along the way, it will reboot 3-4 times, and it expects that
> the reboot process will directly reboot windows to continue the upgrade.
>
> Based on that, you might want to disable the dual boot, upgrade windows,
> then re-enable the dual boot.  (At a bare minimum, you might be able to
> change the Grub loader to default to Windows until the upgrade is
> finished.)  This assumes that Windows updates work in your dual boot
> scenario without any problems, so the Windows upgrade should as well.
> > When thru some web pages, and found a link that was upgrade now, and
> >
> > it seemed to down and go thru the process of getting the Windows 10
>
> files.
> > Said it was going to reboot, and install. It rebooted, and still had the
>
> grub
> > menu, so selected the windows option, and it seemed to be doing
>
> something,
> > but then came up with an error message and said it could complete. Took
>
> me
> > to a web page, but of couse the error number wasn't anywhere to be found
> > there or on a search. Just restored the W7 image, so dual boot process is
> > fine.
>
> Sorry, I run any Winows images in VMs on my Linux machines.  I don't do
> dual boot anymore.  And Microsoft won't upgrade my XP images to W10.  B^)
> > Are there any tricks to getting the upgrade to work with a dual boot
>
> setup.
> > Don't know if the Windows 10 upgrade can not handle a grub boot loader
> > setup?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Use Linux for all my courses, but other teachers sometimes need to do
> > things on the windows, and wanted to at least take a look at it.
> >
> > +----------------------------------------------------------+
> >   Michael D. Setzer II -  Computer Science Instructor
> >   Guam Community College  Computer Center
> >   mailto:[e-mail]
> >   mailto:[e-mail]
> >   http://www.guam.net/home/mikes
> >   Guam - Where America's Day Begins
> >   G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer
> >   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/
> > +----------------------------------------------------------+
> >
> > http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original)
> > Number of Seti Units Returned:  19,471
> > Processing time:  32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes
> > (Total Hours: 287,489)
> >
> > BOINC@HOME CREDITS
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> >      |
> > ¦
>
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[Doug]

On 01/14/2016 11:45 PM, Tod Merley wrote:
> potential issues: mbr uefi - many ways to solve none easy.
>
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Kevin Cummings 
> <[e-mail] > wrote:
> On 01/14/16 22:19, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:
> > My Classroom Lab at the College has Lenovo I7 computers that
> came with
> > Windows 7 about 2 years ago. I changed them to dual boot with
> Fedora, and
> > just recently upgraded them to Fedora 23. Never had any issues
> with the
> > installation of the Fedora or doing updates. I wanted to check
> out the
> > Windows 10 upgrade process on one machine, but have run into all
> kinds of
> > issues.
> >
> > 1. Booting the Windows 7, the Windows 10 upgrade would just keep
> showing
> > the option to request the upgrade and I would be notified. Never
> got any
> > notification??
>
> I upgraded both my wife's and my mother's computers to W10 for them
> (both were windows only machines).  As I recall, at the time,
> Microsoft
> would "log" the update request, and feed the update to the computers
> while they were running over a period of time (kings a long and slow
> download to help spread the load on the Microsoft servers). So,
> essentially, you'd have to boot W7, and leave it running until
> Microsoft
> gets around to downloading the update to the machine.  After that,
> you'll get both an email and a notification that the upgrade is
> ready to
> be run.  You can then spend 1-2 hours waiting for the installation to
> complete.  Along the way, it will reboot 3-4 times, and it expects
> that
> the reboot process will directly reboot windows to continue the
> upgrade.
>
> Based on that, you might want to disable the dual boot, upgrade
> windows,
> then re-enable the dual boot.  (At a bare minimum, you might be
> able to
> change the Grub loader to default to Windows until the upgrade is
> finished.)  This assumes that Windows updates work in your dual boot
> scenario without any problems, so the Windows upgrade should as well.
>
> > 2. When thru some web pages, and found a link that was upgrade
> now, and
> > it seemed to down and go thru the process of getting the Windows
> 10 files.
> > Said it was going to reboot, and install. It rebooted, and still
> had the grub
> > menu, so selected the windows option, and it seemed to be doing
> something,
> > but then came up with an error message and said it could
> complete. Took me
> > to a web page, but of couse the error number wasn't anywhere to
> be found
> > there or on a search. Just restored the W7 image, so dual boot
> process is
> > fine.
>
> Sorry, I run any Winows images in VMs on my Linux machines.  I
> don't do
> dual boot anymore.  And Microsoft won't upgrade my XP images to
> W10.  B^)
>
> > Are there any tricks to getting the upgrade to work with a dual
> boot setup.
> > Don't know if the Windows 10 upgrade can not handle a grub boot
> loader
> > setup?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Use Linux for all my courses, but other teachers sometimes need
> to do
> > things on the windows, and wanted to at least take a look at it.
> >
> > +----------------------------------------------------------+
> >   Michael D. Setzer II -  Computer Science Instructor
> >   Guam Community College  Computer Center

You will have to make the dual-boot default to starting Windows or the 
upgrade will hang when it
tries to reboot itself. If you restore the Windows boot loader 
altogether you will be safer.

I had Windows 8.1 and PCLOS on one drive, Windows on sda1 and PCLOS on 
sda6 (/) and sda7 (/home).
I think sda5 was swap, I don't remember. sda5, sda6 and sda7 were on the 
extended partition. When Windows
got done, the Linux partitions were gone, and there was just one big 
unallocated partition where they were.
If your Windows 7 was installed on two partitions (a tiny boot partition 
sda1 and a big partition
for the main system, sda2, then you may be better off, I don't know. 
Mine was not. (It is now.)
I had copied the /home partition to another drive before starting this 
mess, and I wound up
making new partitions where the unallocated space was, copying /home 
back, and reinstalling /.
The Linux system is still a little flaky, and I can't get the scanner to 
work, but it's almost OK.
(I haven't really put in the time to make the scanner work 
again--hopefully it will.)

--doug