checkboxes in f21 gnome apps

[Stuart McGraw]

I just installed Fedora-21 and xfce.  Install was from
the regular live x64 download, not the xfce spin.

I have an odd problem with checkboxes in gui dialogs:
they don't show any checkmarks.  If I click on a
checkbox, a checkmark will appear for a fraction of
a second then disappear.  From the program's behavior
I can tell that the setting got set but it is obviously
difficult if one can not see which boxes are checked
in a dialog and which aren't.

This problem seems to be limited to Gnome apps (the ones
with the new -- at least to someone coming from F15 --
and really unpleasant UI design).  For example, brasero
exhibits the effect but k3b doesn't.

Does this problem ring a bell with anyone?

[Stuart McGraw]

On 03/22/2015 02:47 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
>  On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:41:34PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote:
> > I just installed Fedora-21 and xfce.  Install was from
> > the regular live x64 download, not the xfce spin.
> >
> > I have an odd problem with checkboxes in gui dialogs:
> > they don't show any checkmarks.  If I click on a
> > checkbox, a checkmark will appear for a fraction of
> > a second then disappear.  From the program's behavior
> > I can tell that the setting got set but it is obviously
> > difficult if one can not see which boxes are checked
> > in a dialog and which aren't.
> >
> > This problem seems to be limited to Gnome apps (the ones
> > with the new -- at least to someone coming from F15 --
> > and really unpleasant UI design).  For example, brasero
> > exhibits the effect but k3b doesn't.
> >
> > Does this problem ring a bell with anyone?
>
>  Yes, I had this problem today - with kvm, or perhaps virt-manager.
>  I was running a virtual instance of WindowsXP, and wanted to activate
>  the USB port to talk with a TomTom GPS device.  When I clicked on the
>  appropriate box, a check appeared, then disappeared.
>  The USB port was, in fact, activated, but that behaviour is quite
>  unsatisfactory.
>
>  I, too, am running F21 and Xfce4.  I studiously avoid Gnome. 
After considerable playing around I discovered that the missing
checkmark effect occurs on whenever an xfce* style is selected
in app-menu -> settings -> appearance.

Coming from Fedora-15, I tried Gnome in this new F21 install
somewhat expecting an improvement in the last three years but
it seems they've borked it up even worse -- scrolling with
a mouse is now really FUd, the UI take more clicks and uses
more space, and the Open menu is a mess.  The Gnome project
seems completely off the rails.

[David A. De Graaf]

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:41:34PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote:
>  I just installed Fedora-21 and xfce.  Install was from
>  the regular live x64 download, not the xfce spin.
>  
>  I have an odd problem with checkboxes in gui dialogs:
>  they don't show any checkmarks.  If I click on a
>  checkbox, a checkmark will appear for a fraction of
>  a second then disappear.  From the program's behavior
>  I can tell that the setting got set but it is obviously
>  difficult if one can not see which boxes are checked
>  in a dialog and which aren't.
>  
>  This problem seems to be limited to Gnome apps (the ones
>  with the new -- at least to someone coming from F15 --
>  and really unpleasant UI design).  For example, brasero
>  exhibits the effect but k3b doesn't.
>  
>  Does this problem ring a bell with anyone? 
Yes, I had this problem today - with kvm, or perhaps virt-manager.
I was running a virtual instance of WindowsXP, and wanted to activate
the USB port to talk with a TomTom GPS device.  When I clicked on the
appropriate box, a check appeared, then disappeared.
The USB port was, in fact, activated, but that behaviour is quite
unsatisfactory.

I, too, am running F21 and Xfce4.  I studiously avoid Gnome.

-- 
        David A. De Graaf    DATIX, Inc.    Hendersonville, NC
        dad(a)datix.us         www.datix.us


    "Never be afraid to try something new.
     Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark.
     A large group of professionals built the Titanic."
            -- Dave Barry

[David A. De Graaf]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:47:25PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote:
>  On 03/22/2015 02:47 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote:
>  >On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 04:41:34PM -0600, Stuart McGraw wrote:
>  >>I just installed Fedora-21 and xfce.  Install was from
>  >>the regular live x64 download, not the xfce spin.
>  >>
>  >>I have an odd problem with checkboxes in gui dialogs:
>  >>they don't show any checkmarks.  If I click on a
>  >>checkbox, a checkmark will appear for a fraction of
>  >>a second then disappear.  From the program's behavior
>  >>I can tell that the setting got set but it is obviously
>  >>difficult if one can not see which boxes are checked
>  >>in a dialog and which aren't.
>  >>
>  >>This problem seems to be limited to Gnome apps (the ones
>  >>with the new -- at least to someone coming from F15 --
>  >>and really unpleasant UI design).  For example, brasero
>  >>exhibits the effect but k3b doesn't.
>  >>
>  >>Does this problem ring a bell with anyone?
>  >
>  >Yes, I had this problem today - with kvm, or perhaps virt-manager.
>  >I was running a virtual instance of WindowsXP, and wanted to activate
>  >the USB port to talk with a TomTom GPS device.  When I clicked on the
>  >appropriate box, a check appeared, then disappeared.
>  >The USB port was, in fact, activated, but that behaviour is quite
>  >unsatisfactory.
>  >
>  >I, too, am running F21 and Xfce4.  I studiously avoid Gnome.
>  
>  After considerable playing around I discovered that the missing
>  checkmark effect occurs on whenever an xfce* style is selected
>  in app-menu -> settings -> appearance. 
Wow!  I admire your persistence and perspicacity in tracking this
down.  I confirm it.  I was using the xfce-curve style; now I'm not.
The checkmarks are now correctly shown.

I do hope you'll report this properly.  No one else will ever
rediscover the problem.

-- 
        David A. De Graaf    DATIX, Inc.    Hendersonville, NC
        dad(a)datix.us         www.datix.us

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