Have noticed very heavy sluggishness in my F-41 system response over the past week or so. Totally idle system showing steady 1.0+ system load average; lightly used system showing 2.0+. Some apps' response delayed 30 seconds or longer.
Top shows tracker-miner-fs-3 steady at 18-35% CPU
systemctl status shows:
tkevans@osprey:/home/tkevans$ systemctl status | grep track │ │ │ └─77161 grep track │ ├─tracker-miner-fs-3.service │ │ └─77151 /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3
But:
tkevans@osprey:/home/tkevans$ systemctl stop tracker-miner-fs-3.service Failed to stop tracker-miner-fs-3.service: Unit tracker-miner-fs-3.service not loaded
I've killed the process for now, and system load back to normal, but wonder why this is happening and how to adjust it.
# uname -a Linux osprey 6.12.8-200.fc41.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jan 2 19:26:03 UTC 2025 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Standard Gnome desktop.
Thanks.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 12:36 PM Tim Evans tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
Have noticed very heavy sluggishness in my F-41 system response over the past week or so. Totally idle system showing steady 1.0+ system load average; lightly used system showing 2.0+. Some apps' response delayed 30 seconds or longer.
Top shows tracker-miner-fs-3 steady at 18-35% CPU
systemctl status shows:
tkevans@osprey:/home/tkevans$ systemctl status | grep track │ │ │ └─77161 grep track │ ├─tracker-miner-fs-3.service │ │ └─77151 /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3
But:
tkevans@osprey:/home/tkevans$ systemctl stop tracker-miner-fs-3.service Failed to stop tracker-miner-fs-3.service: Unit tracker-miner-fs-3.service not loaded
I've killed the process for now, and system load back to normal, but wonder why this is happening and how to adjust it.
# uname -a Linux osprey 6.12.8-200.fc41.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jan 2 19:26:03 UTC 2025 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Standard Gnome desktop.
I would be interested to learn about how the malware got on your system. It sounds like it managed to install itself with root privileges.
Do you recall what you were doing around the time it showed up or you experienced the slow down?
Jeff
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 17:50, Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 12:36 PM Tim Evans tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
Have noticed very heavy sluggishness in my F-41 system response over the past week or so. Totally idle system showing steady 1.0+ system load average; lightly used system showing 2.0+. Some apps' response delayed 30 seconds or longer.
Top shows tracker-miner-fs-3 steady at 18-35% CPU
I would be interested to learn about how the malware got on your system. It sounds like it managed to install itself with root privileges.
Do you recall what you were doing around the time it showed up or you experienced the slow down?
You might want to slow down before jumping to the 'malware' conclusion.
My immediate thought was 'oh, that doesn't sound good', too but if you search for that process name...
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tracker-miner-fs-3&atb=v443-1&i...
Or check your own system, this looks like it's a completely legitimate package. Whether it's something you want/need or not is another matter but we shouldn't jump to conclusions without some base evidence...
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ ps -ef | grep [t]racker wmcdona+ 3673 2022 0 Jan02 ? 00:00:04 /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.x86_64
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qi `rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3` Name : tracker-miners Version : 3.7.4 Release : 2.fc41 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 02 Jan 2025 14:35:31 GMT Group : Unspecified Size : 4559227 License : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later Signature : RSA/SHA256, Thu 12 Dec 2024 19:10:53 GMT, Key ID d0622462e99d6ad1 Source RPM : tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 12 Dec 2024 15:47:19 GMT Build Host : buildvm-x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org Packager : Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project URL : https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/tracker/ Bug URL : https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tracker-miners Summary : Tracker miners and metadata extractors Description : Tracker is a powerful desktop-neutral first class object database, tag/metadata database and search tool.
This package contains various miners and metadata extractors for tracker.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 1:00 PM Will McDonald wmcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 17:50, Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 12:36 PM Tim Evans tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
Have noticed very heavy sluggishness in my F-41 system response over the past week or so. Totally idle system showing steady 1.0+ system load average; lightly used system showing 2.0+. Some apps' response delayed 30 seconds or longer.
Top shows tracker-miner-fs-3 steady at 18-35% CPU
I would be interested to learn about how the malware got on your system. It sounds like it managed to install itself with root privileges.
Do you recall what you were doing around the time it showed up or you experienced the slow down?
You might want to slow down before jumping to the 'malware' conclusion.
My immediate thought was 'oh, that doesn't sound good', too but if you search for that process name...
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tracker-miner-fs-3&atb=v443-1&i...
Or check your own system, this looks like it's a completely legitimate package. Whether it's something you want/need or not is another matter but we shouldn't jump to conclusions without some base evidence...
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ ps -ef | grep [t]racker wmcdona+ 3673 2022 0 Jan02 ? 00:00:04 /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.x86_64
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qi `rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3` Name : tracker-miners Version : 3.7.4 Release : 2.fc41 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 02 Jan 2025 14:35:31 GMT Group : Unspecified Size : 4559227 License : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later Signature : RSA/SHA256, Thu 12 Dec 2024 19:10:53 GMT, Key ID d0622462e99d6ad1 Source RPM : tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 12 Dec 2024 15:47:19 GMT Build Host : buildvm-x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org Packager : Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project URL : https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/tracker/ Bug URL : https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tracker-miners Summary : Tracker miners and metadata extractors Description : Tracker is a powerful desktop-neutral first class object database, tag/metadata database and search tool.
This package contains various miners and metadata extractors for tracker.
Oh, it sounded like one of those cryptocurrency miners (to me).
What a dumb name for a legitimate package...
Jeff
On 2025-01-06 11.02, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 1:00 PM Will McDonald wmcdonald@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 17:50, Jeffrey Walton noloader@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 12:36 PM Tim Evans tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
Have noticed very heavy sluggishness in my F-41 system response over the past week or so. Totally idle system showing steady 1.0+ system load average; lightly used system showing 2.0+. Some apps' response delayed 30 seconds or longer.
Top shows tracker-miner-fs-3 steady at 18-35% CPU
I would be interested to learn about how the malware got on your system. It sounds like it managed to install itself with root privileges.
Do you recall what you were doing around the time it showed up or you experienced the slow down?
You might want to slow down before jumping to the 'malware' conclusion.
My immediate thought was 'oh, that doesn't sound good', too but if you search for that process name...
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=tracker-miner-fs-3&atb=v443-1&i...
Or check your own system, this looks like it's a completely legitimate package. Whether it's something you want/need or not is another matter but we shouldn't jump to conclusions without some base evidence...
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ ps -ef | grep [t]racker wmcdona+ 3673 2022 0 Jan02 ? 00:00:04 /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.x86_64
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qi `rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3` Name : tracker-miners Version : 3.7.4 Release : 2.fc41 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 02 Jan 2025 14:35:31 GMT Group : Unspecified Size : 4559227 License : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later Signature : RSA/SHA256, Thu 12 Dec 2024 19:10:53 GMT, Key ID d0622462e99d6ad1 Source RPM : tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 12 Dec 2024 15:47:19 GMT Build Host : buildvm-x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org Packager : Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project URL : https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/tracker/ Bug URL : https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tracker-miners Summary : Tracker miners and metadata extractors Description : Tracker is a powerful desktop-neutral first class object database, tag/metadata database and search tool.
This package contains various miners and metadata extractors for tracker.
Oh, it sounded like one of those cryptocurrency miners (to me).
What a dumb name for a legitimate package...
Jeff
It is a logical name for what it does. It tracks data on your system by mining the metadata that it can process. It is part of the process of trying to be helpful.
I have found it to be an issue and a "tool" that I don't use. I removed it as soon as I found that what it was doing and the resources that it was taking up. No loss for my processes.
So, if you are not using it's features, remove it, if you can. I use KDE which may allow me to remove it.
Robin
On 1/6/25 1:00 PM, Will McDonald wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 17:50, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@gmail.com mailto:noloader@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 12:36 PM Tim Evans <tkevans@tkevans.com <mailto:tkevans@tkevans.com>> wrote: > > Have noticed very heavy sluggishness in my F-41 system response over the > past week or so. Totally idle system showing steady 1.0+ system load > average; lightly used system showing 2.0+. Some apps' response delayed > 30 seconds or longer. > > Top shows tracker-miner-fs-3 steady at 18-35% CPU I would be interested to learn about how the malware got on your system. It sounds like it managed to install itself with root privileges. Do you recall what you were doing around the time it showed up or you experienced the slow down?You might want to slow down before jumping to the 'malware' conclusion.
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qi `rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3` Name : tracker-miners Version : 3.7.4 Release : 2.fc41 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 02 Jan 2025 14:35:31 GMT Group : Unspecified Size : 4559227 License : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later Signature : RSA/SHA256, Thu 12 Dec 2024 19:10:53 GMT, Key ID d0622462e99d6ad1 Source RPM : tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 12 Dec 2024 15:47:19 GMT Build Host : buildvm-x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org <http://buildvm- x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org> Packager : Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project URL : https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/tracker/ <https:// gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/tracker/> Bug URL : https://bugz.fedoraproject.org/tracker-miners <https:// bugz.fedoraproject.org/tracker-miners> Summary : Tracker miners and metadata extractors Description : Tracker is a powerful desktop-neutral first class object database, tag/metadata database and search tool.
Yeah, clearly installed via dnf in some routine update, in my case in mid-December. I see it on two other local systems here, but it's not running continuously on them, just on the one system. Must be a config somewhere, but the man page doesn't mention any configuration files, just some startup and debug options. Wonder if it's crawling across NFS mounts to my NAS?
On 1/6/25 2:28 PM, Robin Laing wrote:
It is a logical name for what it does. It tracks data on your system by mining the metadata that it can process. It is part of the process of trying to be helpful.
I have found it to be an issue and a "tool" that I don't use. I removed it as soon as I found that what it was doing and the resources that it was taking up. No loss for my processes.
So, if you are not using it's features, remove it, if you can. I use KDE which may allow me to remove it.
dnf wants to remove a batch of Gnome stuff, including Nautilus, which it calls dependencies, along with it.
On Mon, 6 Jan 2025 at 19:33, Tim Evans tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
On 1/6/25 1:00 PM, Will McDonald wrote:
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qi `rpm -qf /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3` Name : tracker-miners Version : 3.7.4 Release : 2.fc41 Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 02 Jan 2025 14:35:31 GMT Group : Unspecified Size : 4559227 License : GPL-2.0-or-later AND LGPL-2.1-or-later Signature : RSA/SHA256, Thu 12 Dec 2024 19:10:53 GMT, Key ID d0622462e99d6ad1 Source RPM : tracker-miners-3.7.4-2.fc41.src.rpm Build Date : Thu 12 Dec 2024 15:47:19 GMT Build Host : buildvm-x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org http://buildvm- x86-14.iad2.fedoraproject.org Packager : Fedora Project Vendor : Fedora Project
<snip> Yeah, clearly installed via dnf in some routine update, in my case in mid-December. I see it on two other local systems here, but it's not running continuously on them, just on the one system. Must be a config somewhere, but the man page doesn't mention any configuration files, just some startup and debug options. Wonder if it's crawling across NFS mounts to my NAS?
Some of the first few links from the DDG search might be worth reviewing:
This is for Ubuntu and the https://stackoverflow.com/questions/72827703/how-to-disable-file-indexing-in...
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ rpm -qc tracker-miners /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-miner-fs-3.desktop /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-miner-rss-3.desktop
[wmcdonald@fedora ~ ]$ cat /etc/xdg/autostart/tracker-miner-fs-3.desktop [Desktop Entry] Name=Tracker File System Miner Comment=Crawls and processes files on the file system Exec=/usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 Terminal=false Type=Application Categories=Utility; X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true X-GNOME-HiddenUnderSystemd=true X-KDE-autostart-after=panel X-KDE-StartupNotify=false X-KDE-UniqueApplet=true NoDisplay=true OnlyShowIn=GNOME;KDE;XFCE;X-IVI;Unity; X-systemd-skip=true
It seems odd that just disabling/masking the systemd services isn't sufficient but maybe flipping X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true to false might also help.
These might also be of interest:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-disable-tracker-miner/66220/10 https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/tracker3-tracker-miner-fs-3-constantl... https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/694065/how-to-really-completely-dis...
On Mon, 2025-01-06 at 14:33 -0500, Tim Evans wrote:
Must be a config somewhere, but the man page doesn't mention any configuration files, just some startup and debug options.
You can change the crawling settings through dconf (either with dconf- editor or the dconf CLI); its under /org/freedesktop/tracker/miner/files.
If memory serves me correct I fixed this by disabling the tracker- miner-fs-3.service file; but it only appears with the '--user' option to systemctl:
systemctl --user status tracker-miner-fs-3
○ tracker-miner-fs-3.service - Tracker file system data miner Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-miner-fs-3.service; disabled; preset: disabled) Drop-In: /usr/lib/systemd/user/tracker-.service.d └─00-uresourced.conf /usr/lib/systemd/user/service.d └─10-timeout-abort.conf Active: inactive (dead)
Nautilus has tracker-miners as a dependency, if you remove tracker entirely then its search function won't work anymore (in my experience).