helved packard pavilion 500

[Angelo Moreschini]

Hi

I bout a new computer (Hewett Packard pavilion 500), but I have problems
with this computer when I try to install Fedora.

The first problem come with the HD: in this computer is mounted only one HD
with1TB of capacity, and it is not possible to mount another HD (there is
not the physical space to put another HD inside).
I asked at HP support, and I got the answer that it is not possible to add
other hard driver in this computer (???).
I am not sure if 1 TB is enough for use Windows and Fedora.

I encountered a problem also trying to run on this computer the
SystemRescueCd .... I chose the graphical environment in the menu of this
program, but, after the program started, it didn't run correctly- it
stopped before showing the graphical interface...

I don't know what it can be, that a good computer (HP) doesn't allow to run
open source programs ????

Some one have the same experience as me ???

Thank you

Regards

Angelo

[Heinz Diehl]

On 11.03.2015, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> I am not sure if 1 TB is enough for use Windows and Fedora.

It is more than enough.
> I encountered a problem also trying to run on this computer the
> SystemRescueCd

Choose an alternative kernel when booting sysresccd.

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/11/2015 04:38 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 11.03.2015, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> > I am not sure if 1 TB is enough for use Windows and Fedora.
>
> It is more than enough.

I agree. On my laptop (750GB hard drive, quad-core Intel, 8G RAM), I
run F21 (Xfce) and often run two virtual machines on it at the same
time via libvirtd (qemu or kvm...depends).

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[Angelo Moreschini]

I prefer to put OS on internal HD,  I am custom to use external HDs only
for data....

We should need to know very well also what is the environment of the
commercial products...  [?]but this will be for the next time ...

Now I have problem with the memory configuration, doing the installation.
I always used a full HD, and I got an automatic configuration of the memory
storage.
But this time Windows and Fedora are both on the same HD and  I have to do
custom configuration of space of memory.

I prepared a partition for Fedora (about 500 GB), but this is not enough..

At the step "Installation destination" I get  :
----------------------------------------------------------
"error: checking storage configuration ":
You have not defined a root partition(/) which is required for installation
of Fedora to continue.
You have not created a bootable partition.
Your bios based system need a special partition to boot from a GPT disk
label. to continue, please create a MiB biosboot type partition.
You have not specified a swap partition. Although not strictly required in
all cases, it will significtivally improve performance for most installation
----------------------------------------------------------

I know quite well what the problems are related to these errors (although not
in all the details).

But I do not understand whether
I have to change the fundamental structure of the partitions that have
already done
*(500 GB to 500 GB for Windows and Fedora) before starting the installation
*
or if the installation itself allows you to make choices appropriate to
define this particular memory configuration. ...

I do not see a chance to interact with the program to implement the required
choices.

And, in the case I need to prepare the partitions in one way different than
I already prepared, I do not know how to do this ...

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 03/11/2015 04:38 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> > On 11.03.2015, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure if 1 TB is enough for use Windows and Fedora.
> > >
> >
> > It is more than enough.
>
> I agree. On my laptop (750GB hard drive, quad-core Intel, 8G RAM), I
> run F21 (Xfce) and often run two virtual machines on it at the same
> time via libvirtd (qemu or kvm...depends).
>
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On 12/03/15 21:22, Angelo Moreschini wrote:

...
> I do not see a chance to interact with the program to implement the 
> required choices.

Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ?

500 GB is way large enough, for example my current installation of the
system partitions is: df -h

Filesystem                Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda3                  39G   27G  9.4G  75% /
/dev/sda1                 2.0G  604M  1.3G  33% /boot
/dev/sdc2                  40G   34G  5.9G  86% /var
  (I have /var on a separate disk and partition due to the main disk
being an SSD; this avoids potential problems with data on /var that is
often being re-written. It also contains package mockbuild caches for
F19,F20,F21, EL5, EL6, EL7 totaling 4.8GB, and some virtual machines.)

/dev/mapper/vg1-home_vg1  643G  643G  713M 100% /home
  (could be as small as say 20G; you may also like to mount your windows
partition to use data files from it - this would give more space).

I have 3577 rpm packages installed. [rpm -qa|wc -l], so this is quite a
large install.
> And, in the case I need to prepare the partitions in one way 
> differentthan I already prepared, I do not know how to do this ...

It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently
partitioned. You could boot a Fedora rescue image (to text mode), and
then list the current layout of the first sata disk by:
# fdisk -l /dev/sda
, and reply to the list with that info.

Then I would be making a backup of your disk. If you haven't done much
in windows, then this might only be a DVD or 2 worth of space.

Next, I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows
partition to leave the space you want for your linux installations. I've
done this quite often without trouble, but better to backup then be
sorry if it doesn't work.

Once there is space to add your new Fedora partitions in, we can provide
some info on how to set custom partitioning during Fedora install.

[Angelo Moreschini]

hi David,

I would like to know if the memory configuration must be done (this causes
me confusion)

- before starting the installation process,
   - or be made during the installation process
   - or, finally, if it can be done in both cases

Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ? Yes I am installing Fedora 21

500 GB is way large enough   Ok what happened - happened (I say now) ......

Then I would be making a backup of your disk No matter for the data it is
nothing on the computer now, I bought few day ago...

I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows partition to
leave the space you want for your linux installations YES I have a bootable
gparted

It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently partitioned

this is the output of # fdisk -l /dev/sda:

--------------------------------------

disk /dev/sda : 931.5 GiB  1.000.204.886.016 bytes  19.535.525.168 sectors

Units : sectors of 1*512 = 512 bytes

Sector size (logical/physic) 512 bytes / 409 bytes

disklabel type : gpt

Disk identifier : 57CA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

device                 start                         end
sectors         size                 type

/dev/sda1              2.048                      2.048
2.095.104     1.023   M     Microsoft recovery environment

/dev/sda2        2.097.152               2.097.152
737.280       360   M     EFI system

/dev/sda3        2.834.432               2.834.432              262.144
  128   M     Microsoft reserved

/dev/sda4       30.096.576              3.096.576        921.841.664
439.6 G     Microsoft basic data

/dev/sda5   1.931.636.736       1.953.513.471          21.876.736
10.4 G     Microsoft basic data

/dev/sda6      924.938.240       1.931.636.735     1.006.698.496
480 G      Linux file system

---------------------------------

Thank you very much for your answer

Angelo

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:18 PM, David Timms  wrote:
> On 12/03/15 21:22, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
>
> ...
> > I do not see a chance to interact with the program to implement the
> > required choices.
>
> Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ?
>
> 500 GB is way large enough, for example my current installation of the
> system partitions is: df -h
>
> Filesystem                Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda3                  39G   27G  9.4G  75% /
> /dev/sda1                 2.0G  604M  1.3G  33% /boot
> /dev/sdc2                  40G   34G  5.9G  86% /var
>   (I have /var on a separate disk and partition due to the main disk
> being an SSD; this avoids potential problems with data on /var that is
> often being re-written. It also contains package mockbuild caches for
> F19,F20,F21, EL5, EL6, EL7 totaling 4.8GB, and some virtual machines.)
>
> /dev/mapper/vg1-home_vg1  643G  643G  713M 100% /home
>   (could be as small as say 20G; you may also like to mount your windows
> partition to use data files from it - this would give more space).
>
> I have 3577 rpm packages installed. [rpm -qa|wc -l], so this is quite a
> large install.
> > And, in the case I need to prepare the partitions in one way
> > differentthan I already prepared, I do not know how to do this ...
>
> It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently
> partitioned. You could boot a Fedora rescue image (to text mode), and
> then list the current layout of the first sata disk by:
> # fdisk -l /dev/sda
> , and reply to the list with that info.
>
> Then I would be making a backup of your disk. If you haven't done much
> in windows, then this might only be a DVD or 2 worth of space.
>
> Next, I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows
> partition to leave the space you want for your linux installations. I've
> done this quite often without trouble, but better to backup then be
> sorry if it doesn't work.
>
> Once there is space to add your new Fedora partitions in, we can provide
> some info on how to set custom partitioning during Fedora install.
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[Angelo Moreschini]

/dev/sda6   =-->    is the new partition that I recently created with file
system type ext4

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Angelo Moreschini <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> hi David,
>
> I would like to know if the memory configuration must be done (this causes
> me confusion)
> before starting the installation process,
> or be made during the installation process
> or, finally, if it can be done in both cases
>
> Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ? Yes I am installing Fedora 21
>
> 500 GB is way large enough   Ok what happened - happened (I say now)
> ......
>
> Then I would be making a backup of your disk No matter for the data it is
> nothing on the computer now, I bought few day ago...
>
> I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows partition to
> leave the space you want for your linux installations YES I have a
> bootable gparted
>
> It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently partitioned
>
> this is the output of # fdisk -l /dev/sda:
>
> disk /dev/sda : 931.5 GiB  1.000.204.886.016 bytes  19.535.525.168 sectors
>
> Units : sectors of 1*512 = 512 bytes
>
> Sector size (logical/physic) 512 bytes / 409 bytes
>
> disklabel type : gpt
>
> Disk identifier : 57CA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> device                 start                         end
> sectors         size                 type
>
> /dev/sda1              2.048                      2.048
> 2.095.104     1.023   M     Microsoft recovery environment
>
> /dev/sda2        2.097.152               2.097.152
> 737.280       360   M     EFI system
>
> /dev/sda3        2.834.432               2.834.432              262.144
>     128   M     Microsoft reserved
>
> /dev/sda4       30.096.576              3.096.576        921.841.664
> 439.6 G     Microsoft basic data
>
> /dev/sda5   1.931.636.736       1.953.513.471          21.876.736
> 10.4 G     Microsoft basic data
>
> /dev/sda6      924.938.240       1.931.636.735     1.006.698.496
> 480 G      Linux file system
>
> Thank you very much for your answer
>
> Angelo
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:18 PM, David Timms  wrote:
> > On 12/03/15 21:22, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > > I do not see a chance to interact with the program to implement the
> > > required choices.
> >
> > Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ?
> >
> > 500 GB is way large enough, for example my current installation of the
> > system partitions is: df -h
> >
> > Filesystem                Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > /dev/sda3                  39G   27G  9.4G  75% /
> > /dev/sda1                 2.0G  604M  1.3G  33% /boot
> > /dev/sdc2                  40G   34G  5.9G  86% /var
> >   (I have /var on a separate disk and partition due to the main disk
> > being an SSD; this avoids potential problems with data on /var that is
> > often being re-written. It also contains package mockbuild caches for
> > F19,F20,F21, EL5, EL6, EL7 totaling 4.8GB, and some virtual machines.)
> >
> > /dev/mapper/vg1-home_vg1  643G  643G  713M 100% /home
> >   (could be as small as say 20G; you may also like to mount your windows
> > partition to use data files from it - this would give more space).
> >
> > I have 3577 rpm packages installed. [rpm -qa|wc -l], so this is quite a
> > large install.
> > > And, in the case I need to prepare the partitions in one way
> > > differentthan I already prepared, I do not know how to do this ...
> >
> > It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently
> > partitioned. You could boot a Fedora rescue image (to text mode), and
> > then list the current layout of the first sata disk by:
> > # fdisk -l /dev/sda
> > , and reply to the list with that info.
> >
> > Then I would be making a backup of your disk. If you haven't done much
> > in windows, then this might only be a DVD or 2 worth of space.
> >
> > Next, I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows
> > partition to leave the space you want for your linux installations. I've
> > done this quite often without trouble, but better to backup then be
> > sorry if it doesn't work.
> >
> > Once there is space to add your new Fedora partitions in, we can provide
> > some info on how to set custom partitioning during Fedora install.
> > --
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> > [e-mail]
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[Angelo Moreschini]

I found here the solution to my problem:
https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/29/coming-in-fedora-21-more-installer-...

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Angelo Moreschini <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> /dev/sda6   =-->    is the new partition that I recently created with file
> system type ext4
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Angelo Moreschini <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > hi David,
> >
> > I would like to know if the memory configuration must be done (this causes
> > me confusion)
> > before starting the installation process,
> > or be made during the installation process
> > or, finally, if it can be done in both cases
> >
> > Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ? Yes I am installing Fedora 21
> >
> > 500 GB is way large enough   Ok what happened - happened (I say now)
> > ......
> >
> > Then I would be making a backup of your disk No matter for the data it
> > is nothing on the computer now, I bought few day ago...
> >
> > I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows partition to
> > leave the space you want for your linux installations YES I have a
> > bootable gparted
> >
> > It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently partitioned
> >
> > this is the output of # fdisk -l /dev/sda:
> >
> > disk /dev/sda : 931.5 GiB  1.000.204.886.016 bytes  19.535.525.168 sectors
> >
> > Units : sectors of 1*512 = 512 bytes
> >
> > Sector size (logical/physic) 512 bytes / 409 bytes
> >
> > disklabel type : gpt
> >
> > Disk identifier : 57CA xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > device                 start                         end
> > sectors         size                 type
> >
> > /dev/sda1              2.048                      2.048
> > 2.095.104     1.023   M     Microsoft recovery environment
> >
> > /dev/sda2        2.097.152               2.097.152
> > 737.280       360   M     EFI system
> >
> > /dev/sda3        2.834.432               2.834.432              262.144
> >     128   M     Microsoft reserved
> >
> > /dev/sda4       30.096.576              3.096.576        921.841.664
> >   439.6 G     Microsoft basic data
> >
> > /dev/sda5   1.931.636.736       1.953.513.471          21.876.736
> > 10.4 G     Microsoft basic data
> >
> > /dev/sda6      924.938.240       1.931.636.735     1.006.698.496
> > 480 G      Linux file system
> >
> > Thank you very much for your answer
> >
> > Angelo
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 2:18 PM, David Timms  wrote:
> > > On 12/03/15 21:22, Angelo Moreschini wrote:
> > >
> > > ...
> > > > I do not see a chance to interact with the program to implement the
> > > > required choices.
> > >
> > > Are you preparing to install Fedora 21 ?
> > >
> > > 500 GB is way large enough, for example my current installation of the
> > > system partitions is: df -h
> > >
> > > Filesystem                Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> > > /dev/sda3                  39G   27G  9.4G  75% /
> > > /dev/sda1                 2.0G  604M  1.3G  33% /boot
> > > /dev/sdc2                  40G   34G  5.9G  86% /var
> > >   (I have /var on a separate disk and partition due to the main disk
> > > being an SSD; this avoids potential problems with data on /var that is
> > > often being re-written. It also contains package mockbuild caches for
> > > F19,F20,F21, EL5, EL6, EL7 totaling 4.8GB, and some virtual machines.)
> > >
> > > /dev/mapper/vg1-home_vg1  643G  643G  713M 100% /home
> > >   (could be as small as say 20G; you may also like to mount your windows
> > > partition to use data files from it - this would give more space).
> > >
> > > I have 3577 rpm packages installed. [rpm -qa|wc -l], so this is quite a
> > > large install.
> > > > And, in the case I need to prepare the partitions in one way
> > > > differentthan I already prepared, I do not know how to do this ...
> > >
> > > It would help if we were able to see how the disk is currently
> > > partitioned. You could boot a Fedora rescue image (to text mode), and
> > > then list the current layout of the first sata disk by:
> > > # fdisk -l /dev/sda
> > > , and reply to the list with that info.
> > >
> > > Then I would be making a backup of your disk. If you haven't done much
> > > in windows, then this might only be a DVD or 2 worth of space.
> > >
> > > Next, I would use a bootable gparted CD to resize the main windows
> > > partition to leave the space you want for your linux installations. I've
> > > done this quite often without trouble, but better to backup then be
> > > sorry if it doesn't work.
> > >
> > > Once there is space to add your new Fedora partitions in, we can provide
> > > some info on how to set custom partitioning during Fedora install.
> > > --
> > > users mailing list
> > > [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options:
> > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users
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