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[Eddie O'Connor]

Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora since
2002....and at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even remotely
related to KDE. Fast forward to today.....(well...Tuesday in all
actuality!) I get the usual notifications that "Updates Are
Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop the screen midship....and
I proceed to authorize them and install them. Now...I'm one of those
uptight people who like to "watch" things as they get installed...and I
started seeing things like:
kf5-kbookmarks
kf5-kded
kemoticons....

and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be expected
from future updates?....and how do I get rid of these?....(I'm a Gnome
"purist"....sue me!...LoL!) any help anyone can give would he greatly
appreciated!

Thanks In Advance

EGO II

[fred roller]

On Thu, May 24, 2018, 07:43 Eddie O'Connor  wrote:
> Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora since
> 2002....and at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even remotely
> related to KDE. Fast forward to today.....(well...Tuesday in all
> actuality!) I get the usual notifications that "Updates Are
> Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop the screen midship....and
> I proceed to authorize them and install them. Now...I'm one of those
> uptight people who like to "watch" things as they get installed...and I
> started seeing things like:
> kf5-kbookmarks
> kf5-kded
> kemoticons....
>
> and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be expected
> from future updates?....and how do I get rid of these?....(I'm a Gnome
> "purist"....sue me!...LoL!) any help anyone can give would he greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Thanks In Advance
>
> EGO II
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Check your installed programs. Some may have kde dependencies. Programs
like k3b have several. This will pull the "k" installs you saw.

Fredd
>

[Outback Dingo]

amarok quassel konsole anything that has a kde dependency that you
installed would have installed also the kde dependencies with it

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 10:46 AM, fred roller  wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018, 07:43 Eddie O'Connor  wrote:
> > Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora since
> > 2002....and at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even remotely related
> > to KDE. Fast forward to today.....(well...Tuesday in all actuality!) I get
> > the usual notifications that "Updates Are Available"...through the Gnome
> > notifications atop the screen midship....and I proceed to authorize them and
> > install them. Now...I'm one of those uptight people who like to "watch"
> > things as they get installed...and I started seeing things like:
> > kf5-kbookmarks
> > kf5-kded
> > kemoticons....
> >
> > and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be expected
> > from future updates?....and how do I get rid of these?....(I'm a Gnome
> > "purist"....sue me!...LoL!) any help anyone can give would he greatly
> > appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks In Advance
> >
> > EGO II
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
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>
> Check your installed programs. Some may have kde dependencies. Programs like
> k3b have several. This will pull the "k" installs you saw.
>
> Fredd
> >
>
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[Mike Chambers]

On Thu, 2018-05-24 at 07:46 -0700, fred roller wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2018, 07:43 Eddie O'Connor 
> wrote:
> > Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora
> > since 2002....and at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even
> > remotely related to KDE. Fast forward to today.....(well...Tuesday
> > in all actuality!) I get the usual notifications that "Updates Are
> > Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop the screen
> > midship....and I proceed to authorize them and install them.
> > Now...I'm one of those uptight people who like to "watch" things as
> > they get installed...and I started seeing things like:
> > kf5-kbookmarks
> > kf5-kded
> > kemoticons....
> >
> > and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be
> > expected from future updates?....and how do I get rid of
> > these?....(I'm a Gnome "purist"....sue me!...LoL!) any help anyone
> > can give would he greatly appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks In Advance
> >
> > EGO II
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
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> > lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q34OJJ6ZQXVDJJR5OAGSKUQMUWSO2SIT/
>
> Check your installed programs. Some may have kde dependencies.
> Programs like k3b have several. This will pull the "k" installs you
> saw.

If he was fully updated, up to the point of the time/date he ran the
update, and he didn't have any (or at least not that he noticed) KDE
programs before, then why now all of a sudden?  Did they get installed
prior due to dependencies and he didn't realize it?  Or did something
in the latest update change and called the programs in?

[Eddie O'Connor]

THAT'S the question. I ALWAYS "watch" my updates....(a throwback from a
different time in my life when I used to "scan" every
downloadable/executable for the sneaky little checkboxes that wanted to
install all manner of toolbars!) and to my knowledge?...I have never
installed anything that had KDE dependencies!...(As I said...I'm a Gnome
purist...I prefer to get most of my apps from the Software Center...and
while there might be KDE-centric apps there? I don't use 'em...I'm just not
a fan of how KDE renders or the look of their fonts!) So there should be
nothing that runs anything KDE on my system...I have the usual suspects:
Gnome Tweak
LibreOffice
VLC Media Player
RhythmBox
The usual SELinux / Tools etc.
Firefox (and Vivaldi)
Gedit
The Fedora USB Writing/Burning program.
And CodeBlocks (because I'm trying to learn C++....don't know why?....maybe
I'm a glutton for punishment?...LoL!)
And also Ninja-IDE (Yep. I'm a glutton as I'm ALSO trying to learn Python
as well!)

Other than that? I don't have anything KDE-related. I guess I will first
check some logs and make sure nothing installed without my knowledge or
without my permission, (which shouldn't happen with Fedora Linux!) and then
deep dive into everything I have. I'm sure I'll be able to find whatever it
is..and REMOVE it. Thanks for all the advice and suggestions...I'll keep
you all posted!

Cheers!

EGO II

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 5:37 PM Mike Chambers  wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-05-24 at 07:46 -0700, fred roller wrote:
> > On Thu, May 24, 2018, 07:43 Eddie O'Connor 
> > wrote:
> > > Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora
> > > since 2002....and at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even
> > > remotely related to KDE. Fast forward to today.....(well...Tuesday
> > > in all actuality!) I get the usual notifications that "Updates Are
> > > Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop the screen
> > > midship....and I proceed to authorize them and install them.
> > > Now...I'm one of those uptight people who like to "watch" things as
> > > they get installed...and I started seeing things like:
> > > kf5-kbookmarks
> > > kf5-kded
> > > kemoticons....
> > >
> > > and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be
> > > expected from future updates?....and how do I get rid of
> > > these?....(I'm a Gnome "purist"....sue me!...LoL!) any help anyone
> > > can give would he greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Thanks In Advance
> > >
> > > EGO II
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
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> > > lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q34OJJ6ZQXVDJJR5OAGSKUQMUWSO2SIT/
> >
> > Check your installed programs. Some may have kde dependencies.
> > Programs like k3b have several. This will pull the "k" installs you
> > saw.
>
> If he was fully updated, up to the point of the time/date he ran the
> update, and he didn't have any (or at least not that he noticed) KDE
> programs before, then why now all of a sudden?  Did they get installed
> prior due to dependencies and he didn't realize it?  Or did something
> in the latest update change and called the programs in?
>
> --
> Mike Chambers
> Madisonville, KY
>
> "Best lil town on Earth!"
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[Eddie O'Connor]

I can't believe it. You all won't believe it. Ok....so I think maybe I'm an
idiot. Apparently I installed a FONT that came from KDE package base!!!!!
Who knew ONE FONT would have such a "following" of
dependencies!?....needless to say?...the font (which I had downloaded to
help my niece do a school project) inls now gone.....I did "dnf clean all"
and then "dnf update dnf"....and finally "dnf upgrade"....and there's No
trace of a KDE based ANYTHING on my system?!...will stick to the Gnome
fonts and not do any random ninsyapls ever again!!!

On Thu, May 24, 2018, 7:15 PM Eddie O'Connor  wrote:
> THAT'S the question. I ALWAYS "watch" my updates....(a throwback from a
> different time in my life when I used to "scan" every
> downloadable/executable for the sneaky little checkboxes that wanted to
> install all manner of toolbars!) and to my knowledge?...I have never
> installed anything that had KDE dependencies!...(As I said...I'm a Gnome
> purist...I prefer to get most of my apps from the Software Center...and
> while there might be KDE-centric apps there? I don't use 'em...I'm just not
> a fan of how KDE renders or the look of their fonts!) So there should be
> nothing that runs anything KDE on my system...I have the usual suspects:
> Gnome Tweak
> LibreOffice
> VLC Media Player
> RhythmBox
> The usual SELinux / Tools etc.
> Firefox (and Vivaldi)
> Gedit
> The Fedora USB Writing/Burning program.
> And CodeBlocks (because I'm trying to learn C++....don't know
> why?....maybe I'm a glutton for punishment?...LoL!)
> And also Ninja-IDE (Yep. I'm a glutton as I'm ALSO trying to learn Python
> as well!)
>
> Other than that? I don't have anything KDE-related. I guess I will first
> check some logs and make sure nothing installed without my knowledge or
> without my permission, (which shouldn't happen with Fedora Linux!) and then
> deep dive into everything I have. I'm sure I'll be able to find whatever it
> is..and REMOVE it. Thanks for all the advice and suggestions...I'll keep
> you all posted!
>
> Cheers!
>
> EGO II
>
> On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 5:37 PM Mike Chambers  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-05-24 at 07:46 -0700, fred roller wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 24, 2018, 07:43 Eddie O'Connor 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora
> > > > since 2002....and at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even
> > > > remotely related to KDE. Fast forward to today.....(well...Tuesday
> > > > in all actuality!) I get the usual notifications that "Updates Are
> > > > Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop the screen
> > > > midship....and I proceed to authorize them and install them.
> > > > Now...I'm one of those uptight people who like to "watch" things as
> > > > they get installed...and I started seeing things like:
> > > > kf5-kbookmarks
> > > > kf5-kded
> > > > kemoticons....
> > > >
> > > > and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be
> > > > expected from future updates?....and how do I get rid of
> > > > these?....(I'm a Gnome "purist"....sue me!...LoL!) any help anyone
> > > > can give would he greatly appreciated!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks In Advance
> > > >
> > > > EGO II
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > > > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html
> > > > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidel
> > > > ines
> > > > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@
> > > > lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q34OJJ6ZQXVDJJR5OAGSKUQMUWSO2SIT/
> > >
> > > Check your installed programs. Some may have kde dependencies.
> > > Programs like k3b have several. This will pull the "k" installs you
> > > saw.
> >
> > If he was fully updated, up to the point of the time/date he ran the
> > update, and he didn't have any (or at least not that he noticed) KDE
> > programs before, then why now all of a sudden?  Did they get installed
> > prior due to dependencies and he didn't realize it?  Or did something
> > in the latest update change and called the programs in?
> >
> > --
> > Mike Chambers
> > Madisonville, KY
> >
> > "Best lil town on Earth!"
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
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[Ed Greshko]

On 05/25/18 11:22, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> I can't believe it. You all won't believe it. Ok....so I think maybe I'm an idiot.
> Apparently I installed a FONT that came from KDE package base!!!!! Who knew ONE
> FONT would have such a "following" of dependencies!?....needless to say?...the font
> (which I had downloaded to help my niece do a school project) inls now gone.....I
> did "dnf clean all" and then "dnf update dnf"....and finally "dnf upgrade"....and
> there's No trace of a KDE based ANYTHING on my system?!...will stick to the Gnome
> fonts and not do any random ninsyapls ever again!!!

Would you mind to tell us the font package you installed?

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/24/18 22:42, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora since 2002....and
> at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even remotely related to KDE. Fast
> forward to today.....(well...Tuesday in all actuality!) I get the usual
> notifications that "Updates Are Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop
> the screen midship....and I proceed to authorize them and install them. Now...I'm
> one of those uptight people who like to "watch" things as they get installed...and
> I started seeing things like:
> kf5-kbookmarks
> kf5-kded
> kemoticons....
>
> and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be expected from
> future updates?....and how do I get rid of these?....(I'm a Gnome "purist"....sue
> me!...LoL!) any help anyone can give would he greatly appreciated!

Well, why don't you just do

dnf erase kf5-kbookmarks   and see if it attempts to remove something you're using?

[Outback Dingo]

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 5:43 PM, Ed Greshko  wrote:
> On 05/24/18 22:42, Eddie O'Connor wrote:
> > Greetings all. I just have a question. I have been using Fedora since 2002....and
> > at NO POINT have I ever installed anything even remotely related to KDE. Fast
> > forward to today.....(well...Tuesday in all actuality!) I get the usual
> > notifications that "Updates Are Available"...through the Gnome notifications atop
> > the screen midship....and I proceed to authorize them and install them. Now...I'm
> > one of those uptight people who like to "watch" things as they get installed...and
> > I started seeing things like:
> > kf5-kbookmarks
> > kf5-kded
> > kemoticons....
> >
> > and a slew of other "K" related things. Is this something to be expected from
> > future updates?....and how do I get rid of these?....(I'm a Gnome "purist"....sue
> > me!...LoL!) any help anyone can give would he greatly appreciated!
>
> Well, why don't you just do
>
> dnf erase kf5-kbookmarks   and see if it attempts to remove something you're using?

you could simply do a rpm -qa | grep kf5 to see really how much is also there
> --
> Conjecture is just a conclusion based on incomplete information. It isn't a fact.
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