On 03/13/2018 09:41 PM, Linda Frasier wrote:
Why are all the Japanese cars looking more and more like Transformers? The only exception seems to be Nissan, which has suddenly discovered chrome. Ford clearly has a young Japanese guy or a young American fan of Transformers on its design team, too.
The obnoxious uglification trend has been going on since the second Dubya Bush term, both in cars and pickups. You can see it clearly if you look at the generation photos in the brand nameplate articles in Wikipedia.
For several vehicle generations, designs were pretty stable among, for example, Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable, Toyota Camry, and the F150 series of Ford pickups. Then the virus broke out about 2006 or so, and vehicle looks have been going from tolerable, to ugly, to unbearable. For the latter, see the front-end photos of the 2017 Toyota Camry.
Anyway, I disapprove of this trend. If I wanted to drive a paper airplane, rocket ship, or angry robot, I’d buy one of those. I might get one if they could fly, but given the damned traffic jam I was in, I suspect the Subaru SUV probably couldn’t fly or sprout huge treads or legs to climb over the rest of us or it would have.
Chaos forfend that we have to start navigating in three dimensions instead of just two. Only the simplest automated driving in two dimensions can be accomplished now, and the entire system is not ready for prime time. The required automated technologies for three dimensional driving, which would be much more necessary than those for two dimensions, cannot be much more than ethereal flickers in unconscious brains, if they exist at all.
Ken
Fedora users:
I apologize for paying insufficient attention to notice the flaky addition of the fedora list address to a private mailing list message.
My lack of a mouse pad today is yielding erratic rodent-movement results, and I did not notice the random address addition.
Cars and linux are both rare topics on that list, so it's an altogether unusual message, not to mention two copies of it.
Ken
On 03/14/2018 06:55 AM, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
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On 03/14/2018 06:55 AM, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
The obnoxious uglification trend has been going on since the second Dubya Bush term, both in cars and pickups. You can see it clearly if you look at the generation photos in the brand nameplate articles in Wikipedia.
Why are you sending this to everybody on the Fedora mailing list?
To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and said that it was a mistake.
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 2:48 PM, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 03/14/2018 06:55 AM, Kenneth Marcy wrote:
The obnoxious uglification trend has been going on since the second Dubya Bush term, both in cars and pickups. You can see it clearly if you look at the generation photos in the brand nameplate articles in Wikipedia.
Why are you sending this to everybody on the Fedora mailing list?
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On 03/14/2018 11:53 AM, Zachary Snyder wrote:
To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and said that it was a mistake.
Yes, but I read my email in the order received, no threading, and reply as I read. I've been doing that for about thirty years now, and have no interest in changing.
Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a second pointless email lol.
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On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Joe Zeff joe@zeff.us wrote:
On 03/14/2018 11:53 AM, Zachary Snyder wrote:
To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and said that it was a mistake.
Yes, but I read my email in the order received, no threading, and reply as I read. I've been doing that for about thirty years now, and have no interest in changing.
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On 03/14/2018 12:13 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote:
Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a second pointless email lol.
Yes, but at least I trim the boilerplate off of the bottom before replying, unlike most of you.
On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 12:23 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 03/14/2018 12:13 PM, Zachary Snyder wrote:
Gotcha, well Im sorry to hear that. Might have saved the list from a second pointless email lol.
Yes, but at least I trim the boilerplate off of the bottom before replying, unlike most of you.
+1
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Zachary Snyder:
To be fair, in the next email, if you read it, he apologized and said that it was a mistake.
Joe Zeff:
Yes, but I read my email in the order received, no threading, and reply as I read. I've been doing that for about thirty years now, and have no interest in changing.
Well then (said with wry humour), you get to wonder about these things, then... You also get to shoot yourself in the foot, from time to time.
I used to do that, these days I use threading. Either way, I might compose a reply but not send it straight away. If I find that a few messages later my reply would be pointless, I can just delete it.
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