Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is. This is a regression bug that I reported over on:
Firefox file-> email link regression: Thunderbird is already running https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1933006
Whilst our intrepid heroes over on Mozilla work on this regression, the work around is to install 124.0.1-2 from fc40's repo:
# dnf downgrade firefox --releasever=40
And that worked perfectly.
-T
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail linkI get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
I'm on upstream Firefox 134.0a (Nightly) and File->Email Link does one of two things, if Thunderbird is running it opens a compose email window, if Thunderbird isn't running it starts Thunderbird and opens a compose email window.
regards, Steve
On 11/23/24 14:50, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail linkI get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
I'm on upstream Firefox 134.0a (Nightly) and File->Email Link does one of two things, if Thunderbird is running it opens a compose email window, if Thunderbird isn't running it starts Thunderbird and opens a compose email window.
regards, Steve
Maybe they fixed it?
On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail linkI get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
I'm on upstream Firefox 134.0a (Nightly) and File->Email Link does one of two things, if Thunderbird is running it opens a compose email window, if Thunderbird isn't running it starts Thunderbird and opens a compose email window.
F41:
Thunderbird running, Google-chrome running.
The above sequence opens g-mail window in Chrome. Go figure.
Cheers Frank
On 25/11/24 02:34, Frank Bures wrote:
On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
I'm on upstream Firefox 134.0a (Nightly) and File->Email Link does one of two things, if Thunderbird is running it opens a compose email window, if Thunderbird isn't running it starts Thunderbird and opens a compose email window.
F41:
Thunderbird running, Google-chrome running.
The above sequence opens g-mail window in Chrome. Go figure.
How are you doing that? I'm on Chrome 131.0.6778.85 and I don't have any menus nor does pressing alt produce any.
regards, Steve
Cheers Frank
On 2024-11-24 16:32, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 25/11/24 02:34, Frank Bures wrote:
On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
I'm on upstream Firefox 134.0a (Nightly) and File->Email Link does one of two things, if Thunderbird is running it opens a compose email window, if Thunderbird isn't running it starts Thunderbird and opens a compose email window.
F41:
Thunderbird running, Google-chrome running.
The above sequence opens g-mail window in Chrome. Go figure.
How are you doing that? I'm on Chrome 131.0.6778.85 and I don't have any menus nor does pressing alt produce any.
The above sequence is:
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
Cheers Frank
On 25/11/24 09:04, Frank Bures wrote:
On 2024-11-24 16:32, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 25/11/24 02:34, Frank Bures wrote:
On 2024-11-23 17:50, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 24/11/24 05:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
I get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
I'm on upstream Firefox 134.0a (Nightly) and File->Email Link does one of two things, if Thunderbird is running it opens a compose email window, if Thunderbird isn't running it starts Thunderbird and opens a compose email window.
F41:
Thunderbird running, Google-chrome running.
The above sequence opens g-mail window in Chrome. Go figure.
How are you doing that? I'm on Chrome 131.0.6778.85 and I don't have any menus nor does pressing alt produce any.
The above sequence is:
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
Sorry, I thought you were saying you issued the command from Chrome. I tried your method with firefox 134.0a1 and for me it opens a Thunderbird compose window regardless of whether Chrome is running or not on F41. What I didn't notice before now, whether the Thunderbird compose window is opened the body of the mail is populated with the string about:home.
regards, Steve
Cheers Frank
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 17:04 -0500, Frank Bures wrote:
The above sequence is:
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
Cheers Frank
Aha! You're not clicking on an email mailto: address in a page, like I thought you were doing. You're emailing someone a link to the page you're browsing (something I'd never done, and never noticed the feature was there).
I'd expect that at some stage you got to select your default mail program it'll use, and if you ticked something as your default, it'll forever afterwards use that same program without asking you to pick something to do the job. At least that happened here (on older software versions).
Info about changing preferences: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/change-program-used-open-email-links
It's in: about:preferences#general Applications (the mailto content type)
On 2024-11-25 06:52, Tim wrote:
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 17:04 -0500, Frank Bures wrote:
The above sequence is:
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail link
Cheers Frank
Aha! You're not clicking on an email mailto: address in a page, like I thought you were doing. You're emailing someone a link to the page you're browsing (something I'd never done, and never noticed the feature was there).
I'd expect that at some stage you got to select your default mail program it'll use, and if you ticked something as your default, it'll forever afterwards use that same program without asking you to pick something to do the job. At least that happened here (on older software versions).
I do not use Firefox as my default browser. I was just trying to reproduce the OP's problem.
I found the default setting and it pointed to Chrome. However, when I changed it to Thunderbird, I got the OP's problem - Thunderbird is already running but it's not responding...
I do not care at this point as I am perfectly fine using Chrome to gmail in an unlikely case I will need this function. The sent mail will appear in my Thunderbird after the next download from the server (Gmail) anyway.
Cheers Frank
On 11/25/24 07:18, Frank Bures wrote:
I do not use Firefox as my default browser
I have eight browser installed. Firefox is "currently" the default, but is varies. I use them all for various things.
If you have not tried Brave Browser, you should. It uses the "Blink" rendering engine (same as Chrome), has automatic ad blocking, does not spy on you, has a private windows with TOR, and is considered grandparent safe.
I typically install both Brave and Firefox on my customers. If a web site does not work in one, try the other. A lot of sites no longer work with Firefox.
I do not recommend Edge or Chrome. They are terrible spyware.
On 2024-11-25 11:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
On 11/25/24 07:18, Frank Bures wrote:
I do not use Firefox as my default browser
I have eight browser installed. Firefox is "currently" the default, but is varies. I use them all for various things.
If you have not tried Brave Browser, you should. It uses the "Blink" rendering engine (same as Chrome), has automatic ad blocking, does not spy on you, has a private windows with TOR, and is considered grandparent safe.
Thanks, never heard of.
I'll take a look at it.
Frank
On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 08:21 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
If you have not tried Brave Browser, you should. It uses the "Blink" rendering engine (same as Chrome), has automatic ad blocking, does not spy on you, has a private windows with TOR, and is considered grandparent safe.
I typically install both Brave and Firefox on my customers. If a web site does not work in one, try the other. A lot of sites no longer work with Firefox.
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox. I find plenty of sites that are terrible on any browser.
I've been running Firefox with NoScript for ages, so many sites are full of scripting crap that bogs things down. And I find it's the websites, rather than the browser, that are the real spying/tracking problem.
Doublelick got sin-binned at my DNS server many years ago, that put an end to a lot of tracking. Then, in recent years, I got a smart phone, and whenever I let it use the (uncensored) mobile network for data I see a lot of tracking going on (adverts for the same things continually appearing everywhere).
I tried Brave, but it was a convoluted mess. It may well be a nerdgasm, but horrendous to use.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
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I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
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Just a silly question, what version of Firefox are you on? I'm using the nightly version of Firefox which is version 135.0a1, and from my perspective both of those sites work fine. The first site prompted me for login credentials which I don't have so I didn't go any further. The second site displayed the page in non-English and I got a popup asking if I wanted to translate it, which I did, and the site then displayed in English, so I don't see any issues with either site. I don't get the tab crash issues you are reporting so do you have some addin or something that is causing the crashes rather than it being Firefox?
regards, Steve
On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 08:38 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users"users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
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Just a silly question, what version of Firefox are you on? I'm using the nightly version of Firefox which is version 135.0a1, and from my perspective both of those sites work fine. The first site prompted me for login credentials which I don't have so I didn't go any further. The second site displayed the page in non-English and I got a popup asking if I wanted to translate it, which I did, and the site then displayed in English, so I don't see any issues with either site. I don't get the tab crash issues you are reporting so do you have some addin or something that is causing the crashes rather than it being Firefox?
Same here, with the standard (non-nightly) version of Firefox, currently at firefox-133.0-2.fc41.x86_64
poc
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris" steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
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I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
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Just a silly question, what version of Firefox are you on? I'm using the nightly version of Firefox which is version 135.0a1, and from my perspective both of those sites work fine. The first site prompted me for login credentials which I don't have so I didn't go any further. The second site displayed the page in non-English and I got a popup asking if I wanted to translate it, which I did, and the site then displayed in English, so I don't see any issues with either site. I don't get the tab crash issues you are reporting so do you have some addin or something that is causing the crashes rather than it being Firefox?
regards, Steve
[~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-133.0-2.fc40.x86_64 Latest from updates.
The first one is my proton account, so i don't expect to work for you. The second one, try to not translate, it is just a recipe in slovenian language. If it works 3 versions later, I will just wait half a year or more to get working version. Maybe in Fedora 45. :-) Should I compile beta versions to get to a working browser? Maybe this is your way, mine is not. There is no problem with the Palemoon browser.
BR, Bob
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:22:43 +0000 Bob Marčan via users users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris" steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800
"ToddAndMargo via users" users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
https://mail.proton.me/u/0/all-mail/o4da3Tlhne-ORwaJYsVRoxzBZj3Qm8rbjFjY124k...
Same with safe mode. So no extensions etc....
On 13/12/24 09:40, Bob Marčan via users wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:22:43 +0000 Bob Marčan via usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris"steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800
"ToddAndMargo via users"users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
https://mail.proton.me/u/0/all-mail/o4da3Tlhne-ORwaJYsVRoxzBZj3Qm8rbjFjY124k...
Same with safe mode. So no extensions etc....
At what point does the second site fail for you? I didn't activate the translation and I can click on links in the page without any issues. I'm also not compiling firefox, I've downloaded the pre-built version of firefox nightly, and then I allow daily updates to do the updating to newer versions etc.
regards, Steve
On 14/12/24 09:16, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 13/12/24 09:40, Bob Marčan via users wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 22:22:43 +0000 Bob Marčan via usersusers@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:38:30 +1100 "Stephen Morris"steve.morris.au@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/12/24 07:18, Bob Marčan via users wrote: On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:40:44 -0800
"ToddAndMargo via users"users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
On 11/25/24 16:59, Tim via users wrote:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox >
https://mail.proton.me/u/0/all-mail/o4da3Tlhne-ORwaJYsVRoxzBZj3Qm8rbjFjY124k...
Same with safe mode. So no extensions etc....
At what point does the second site fail for you? I didn't activate the translation and I can click on links in the page without any issues. I'm also not compiling firefox, I've downloaded the pre-built version of firefox nightly, and then I allow daily updates to do the updating to newer versions etc.
regards, Steve
I tried the second site with Chrome and it seems to work fine in that browse too, although I did find with Chrome I had to attempt the translation twice because the first time failed to translate.
regards, Steve
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At what point does the second site fail for you? I didn't activate the translation and I can click on links in the page without any issues. I'm also not compiling firefox, I've downloaded the pre-built version of firefox nightly, and then I allow daily updates to do the updating to newer versions etc.
regards, Steve
It is Fedora, it is packaged, so i use the official rpm version. With palemoon browser both sites works flawlesly. So, te problem is firefox. Last 3 or 4 versions, before was worked. The palemoon is also built and installed with RPM. BR
Tim:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
ToddAndMargo:
It is medical sites were patients look up their medical records and Recreational Vehicles campgrounds. And a few government sites.
I'm sure there are sites that fail in some browsers, I've seen plenty that do in various ways (some just randomly crash and work the next time). And two links in the subsequent mail worked okay when I just tried them, now.
But, for me, it's been cases of crap site is bad on everything. I was just countering the "there's a lot of sites that fail with Firefox" argument. Generally it's shite sites, not the browsers.
I remember the early days of "this site designed for..." issues that continually reared their ugly heads because the title of "webmaster" was generally unearned. And sites that failed because they did a stupid test on your browser that was actually unrelated to the ability needed (usually some bogus JavaScript function). And I have appliances in the house that require specific versions of three different browsers that were outdated two years before the appliance was bought, so their web interfaces are completely unusable.
These days it's commonly down to a site, almost any site, dredging in a dozen or more scripts to add features to a page, bogging down the browser with badly written code. My CPUs (plural) should not be running flat chat and getting hot to use a shopping site.
On 12/12/24 16:03, Tim wrote:
Tim:
I've yet to find a site that doesn't work on Firefox
ToddAndMargo:
It is medical sites were patients look up their medical records and Recreational Vehicles campgrounds. And a few government sites.
I'm sure there are sites that fail in some browsers, I've seen plenty that do in various ways (some just randomly crash and work the next time). And two links in the subsequent mail worked okay when I just tried them, now.
But, for me, it's been cases of crap site is bad on everything. I was just countering the "there's a lot of sites that fail with Firefox" argument. Generally it's shite sites, not the browsers.
I remember the early days of "this site designed for..." issues that continually reared their ugly heads because the title of "webmaster" was generally unearned. And sites that failed because they did a stupid test on your browser that was actually unrelated to the ability needed (usually some bogus JavaScript function). And I have appliances in the house that require specific versions of three different browsers that were outdated two years before the appliance was bought, so their web interfaces are completely unusable.
These days it's commonly down to a site, almost any site, dredging in a dozen or more scripts to add features to a page, bogging down the browser with badly written code. My CPUs (plural) should not be running flat chat and getting hot to use a shopping site.
I install both Firefox and Brave Browser on my customer's computers. I tell them is one does not work, use the other. And get use to using both of them.
oh ya. 1+ on the crap web sites.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:02:33 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
oh ya. 1+ on the crap web sites.
oh ya. 2+ on the crap web sites AND browsers.
On 12/13/24 01:07, Bob Marčan via users wrote:
On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:02:33 -0800 "ToddAndMargo via users" users@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote:
oh ya. 1+ on the crap web sites.
oh ya. 2+ on the crap web sites AND browsers.
The worst browser I have come across is Midori
On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 02:58 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
The worst browser I have come across is Midori
With noscript running, all I see of their own website was a white page with a spinning wait while we load graphic... Once I allowed scripting, I saw a basic pretty useless website. Harrumph!
I probably tried it in the past.
Usually I'd say the worse browser was MSIE (pronounce "misery").
Tim:
Usually I'd say the worse browser was MSIE (pronounce "misery").
ToddAndMargo:
The "ActiveX" that went with misery was responsible for a lot of virus infections.
I'm not in the least surprised. The concept of "don't trust random things" just isn't in their head (the programmers and the users).
And it's not just deliberately malicious things, there's an awful lot of incompetently programmed things.
On 11/23/24 10:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sat, 23 Nov 2024 02:43:08 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
Hi All,
Fedora 41 thunderbird-128.4.3-1.fc41.x86_64 firefox-132.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
Since upgrading from Fedora 39 to Fedora 41, when I go into
--> Firefox -> File -> eMail linkI get told that Thunderbird is already running, which it is.
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing.
--> Open Xfce 4.18 --> open Thunderbird --> open Firefox to any link --> File --> eMail link
Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
On Sat, 2024-11-23 at 19:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
Not actually *using* Thunderbird, here, but occasionally try it out... Does it make any difference if Thunderbird was already open when you clicked on an email link?
Mail programs are one of those applications which once started often stay loitering around in the background to some degree, even when you close the program's main interface window.
I use Evolution, and speaking of weird bugs, I remember (ages ago) that if I clicked on a mailto link in a webpage I'd get a compose window pop up, I could write an email and send it, but it never kept a copy of the sent mail. I learnt to open Evolution, and leave it in the background, before clicking any mailto links. It did keep a "sent" copy, that way.
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 14:46 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Sat, 2024-11-23 at 19:35 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
The exact steps on how to reproduce it are missing. Simply installing thunderbird, then configuring GNOME Shell default apps to let thunderbird handle email doesn't suffice. The firefox menu opens a thunderbird compose window each time.
Not actually *using* Thunderbird, here, but occasionally try it out... Does it make any difference if Thunderbird was already open when you clicked on an email link?
Mail programs are one of those applications which once started often stay loitering around in the background to some degree, even when you close the program's main interface window.
I use Evolution, and speaking of weird bugs, I remember (ages ago) that if I clicked on a mailto link in a webpage I'd get a compose window pop up, I could write an email and send it, but it never kept a copy of the sent mail. I learnt to open Evolution, and leave it in the background, before clicking any mailto links. It did keep a "sent" copy, that way.
FWIW: Evolution has multiple parts (try 'pgrep evolution' to see them). Simply quitting the GUI will not shut it down. I'm sure you know this, but if you really want to to stop it you should use 'evolution --force- shutdown' from the command line.
poc
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 10:55 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
FWIW: Evolution has multiple parts (try 'pgrep evolution' to see them). Simply quitting the GUI will not shut it down. I'm sure you know this, but if you really want to to stop it you should use 'evolution --force- shutdown' from the command line.
Yes. I have had to force it to quit sometimes. It doesn't always handle things gracefully if it can't access one of the mail servers.
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 23:42 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
On Sun, 2024-11-24 at 10:55 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
FWIW: Evolution has multiple parts (try 'pgrep evolution' to see them). Simply quitting the GUI will not shut it down. I'm sure you know this, but if you really want to to stop it you should use 'evolution --force- shutdown' from the command line.
Yes. I have had to force it to quit sometimes. It doesn't always handle things gracefully if it can't access one of the mail servers.
Try taking it offline and on again (connection icon in the lower left corner).
poc
Tim:
Yes. I have had to force it to quit sometimes. It doesn't always handle things gracefully if it can't access one of the mail servers.
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Try taking it offline and on again (connection icon in the lower left corner).
Tried that, too. But when it gets in a bad mood, it needs a big stick.
On Mon, 2024-11-25 at 17:38 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
Tim:
Yes. I have had to force it to quit sometimes. It doesn't always handle things gracefully if it can't access one of the mail servers.
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Try taking it offline and on again (connection icon in the lower left corner).
Tried that, too. But when it gets in a bad mood, it needs a big stick.
That used to happen quite a lot in the bad old days, but I can't even remember the last time I saw it.
poc