Tried to install FC 6 on my dual CPU Pentium III machine.
1. First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400 video card and assume head less install.
2. And may be due to above it install Linux under XEN ? anyway upon booting, last thing it said was diabling XEN buffers and after that my machine froos
There is only one kernel installed on the system. Last time, during FC 5 install, it failed to discover some of the hardware on my system. I ended up solving this issue using non-SMP and enabling firstboot.
Any pointers who I can recover from this situation.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Usman
At 5:52 PM -0800 11/20/06, Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Tried to install FC 6 on my dual CPU Pentium III machine.
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400 video
card and assume head less install.
Probably this can be worked around with some poking. Possibly the other-mode install than you used will help (Text vs. Graphics mode).
- And may be due to above it install Linux under XEN ? anyway upon
booting, last thing it said was diabling XEN buffers and after that my machine froos
You probably clicked on the "Virtualization" button. It should probably have "Xen" in the name, and Anaconda should warn before installing that additional work will be needed to boot the machine.
There is only one kernel installed on the system. Last time, during FC 5 install, it failed to discover some of the hardware on my system. I ended up solving this issue using non-SMP and enabling firstboot.
Any pointers who I can recover from this situation.
Any help is appreciated.
Do the install over again.
Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Tried to install FC 6 on my dual CPU Pentium III machine.
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400 video
card and assume head less install.
There may be two different things that you can do. The first is to boot with 'linux xdriver=mga' if video detection is the only problem. I have a G200 and some with the G400 also had problems with installations prior to FC6 with out of range. As far as I know the problem was fixed for the G400 as it was for the G200. I don't recall. The second choice is to install with 'linux xdriver=vesa' though the entry will also be in the xorg.conf of the installed system. Before the fix, that is what we would have had to resort to using. After the install, you could take care of the issue. Regarding the kernel, it comes in the smp version only now and is the kernel. It is supposed to fall back to uniprocessor mode for non-smp computers. I don't know of any options to the kernel to force it to behave in non-smp mode. There might be options out there somewhere.
- And may be due to above it install Linux under XEN ? anyway upon
booting, last thing it said was diabling XEN buffers and after that my machine froos
You might have to use rescue mode in order to install the kernel instead of the xen version of the kernel.
There is only one kernel installed on the system. Last time, during FC 5 install, it failed to discover some of the hardware on my system. I ended up solving this issue using non-SMP and enabling firstboot.
If you cannot find options to make the kernel non-smp you may have to find one compiled with that option off or use an FC5 kernel version from somewhere. do not take this as athoratative though, I just install the stuff. :-)
Any pointers who I can recover from this situation.
I hope you get the system to install successfully.
Jim
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
Usman
Usman S. Ansari wrote (quoting from the raw message):
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... anyway upon booting, last thing it said was diabling XEN buffers and after that my machine froos <img src="http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/02.gif">
Hi Usman,
It looks like you're using Yahoo web mail, and using "picture" smileys provided by yimg.com. (Possibly Yahoo makes it look like they're "a part of Yahoo mail": I don't use it so I can't tell.)
May I recommend you *don't* do that, for three reasons?
Firstly, many Linux and Unix mail clients won't display the HTML version of your e-mail at all. Their users won't see the smiley, or any indication that you meant to put anything there.
Secondly, your e-mail was constructed in such a way that the smiley wasn't distributed with your e-mail, but each client would have had to have downloaded it from yimg.com. That means yimg.com would be able to tell whenever anyone read your e-mail.
That's considered unfriendly -- almost like spying on us. Many bulk e-mailers (including spammers) use specially-constructed filenames for the downloaded pictures, so they can cross-refer which e-mail went to which e-mail address, when it was read, how often and where.
So most mail clients on Linux and Unix (and an increasing amount on other platforms) won't load these images. That means *those* users won't see the smiley anyway.
Thirdly, many spam filters will spot these picture references, and score up your e-mail accordingly. (Not only is it a way for spammers to check which e-mail addresses are being read, spam messages encoded as pictures are relatively difficult for spam filters to analyse. So all messages with embedded pictures come under suspicion).
You can see that you got a relatively high score from Red Hat's spam filter. That's not good -- if you happened to include a few other "spam-like" phrases, your e-mail could have been blocked.
Finally, we prefer that you don't send HTML-formatted e-mail to the list at all. The Mailing List Guidelines for Fedora mailing lists can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines#postingguide... along with a link to pages explaining how to turn it off.
Hope this helps,
James.
(For what it's worth, I only spotted this because your message scored highly enough on my spam filters to go into the "unsure" box, and I wanted to find out why.)
Tony and Jim, thanks for your replies.
I will have to reinstall the FC 6 (since it exist no more on my hardisk).
Tony Nelson tonynelson@georgeanelson.com wrote:
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400 video
card and assume head less install.
Probably this can be worked around with some poking. Possibly the other-mode install than you used will help (Text vs. Graphics mode).
Tony, I don't understand what you mean.
- ... last thing it said was diabling XEN buffers and after that my
machine froos
You probably clicked on the "Virtualization" button. It should probably have "Xen" in the name, and Anaconda should warn before installing that additional work will be needed to boot the machine.
Since, FC 6 selected text install, there was no button to click. I do not remmeber checking box next to Xen.
Jim Cornette fc-cornette@insight.rr.com wrote:
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400 video
card and assume head less install.
The second choice is to install with 'linux xdriver=vesa' though the entry will also be in the xorg.conf of the installed system. Before the fix, that is what we would have had to resort to using. After the install, you could take care of the issue.
I guess, I can install, FC 6, boot my machine with FC 4 kernel or 2.6.14.2 which I have built and mount FC 6 / as root. Than copy xorg.conf file.
Do you think this will work ?
Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Tony and Jim, thanks for your replies.
I will have to reinstall the FC 6 (since it exist no more on my hardisk).
You probably clicked on the "Virtualization" button. It should probably have "Xen" in the name, and Anaconda should warn before installing that additional work will be needed to boot the machine.
Since, FC 6 selected text install, there was no button to click. I do not remmeber checking box next to Xen.
I did a text install during the testing phase of FC6. I agree that the information is a bit vague. When I installed in text mode, it took in a lot of packages. Maybe specifying the xdriver=mga will get you a working GUI installer mode.
*/Jim Cornette fc-cornette@insight.rr.com/* wrote:
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400 video
card and assume head less install.
The second choice is to install with 'linux xdriver=vesa' though the entry will also be in the xorg.conf of the installed system. Before the fix, that is what we would have had to resort to using. After the install, you could take care of the issue.
I guess, I can install, FC 6, boot my machine with FC 4 kernel or 2.6.14.2 which I have built and mount FC 6 / as root. Than copy xorg.conf file.
Do you think this will work ?
Copying over the xorg.conf file might give you back a better xorg.conf file than default FC6 provides. I don't see why a more elaborate xorg.conf file would cause damage.
Regarding the kernel that is by default with smp enabled, if the kernel version does not work for you, you might use your customized kernel. I'd go with trying the FC6 provided kernel first before trying the custom kernel. The issues that I used to have with the smp kernel related to cpufrequency and the AMD 32-bit processor. The problem was remedied and the default "kernel" with smp enabled worked for cpufrequency. If you still have errors with the FC6 kernel, you might search for similar bug reports and attach to the bug report or extract the bug report resolution.
Hopefully you can get the GUI installation with either vesa or mga as the specification to xdriver=<whatever-driver> command. I had to supply sis as the driver on one of the computers which I installed FC6 on. The installer would crash if the parameter was not supplied. Admittadly, the crash was not as major as not even detecting a video card.
Good luck on your second attempt.
Jim
I think I know why it installed XEN on my system. I selected all the options (from text based install) to install on my system.
Well, if this is true, than what should I do to avoid XEN install. Should I take bare minimum and after system is up install rest of the packages or there is a sub option, which I can select to disable Visulization ?
Usman
Jim Cornette fc-cornette@insight.rr.com wrote: Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Tony and Jim, thanks for your replies.
I will have to reinstall the FC 6 (since it exist no more on my hardisk).
You probably clicked on the "Virtualization" button. It should probably have "Xen" in the name, and Anaconda should warn before installing that additional work will be needed to boot the machine.
Since, FC 6 selected text install, there was no button to click. I do not remmeber checking box next to Xen.
I did a text install during the testing phase of FC6. I agree that the information is a bit vague. When I installed in text mode, it took in a lot of packages. Maybe specifying the xdriver=mga will get you a working GUI installer mode.
*/Jim Cornette /* wrote:
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400
video card and assume head less install.
The second choice is to install with 'linux xdriver=vesa' though the entry will also be in the xorg.conf of the installed system. Before the fix, that is what we would have had to resort to using. After the install, you could take care of the issue.
I guess, I can install, FC 6, boot my machine with FC 4 kernel or 2.6.14.2 which I have built and mount FC 6 / as root. Than copy xorg.conf file.
Do you think this will work ?
Copying over the xorg.conf file might give you back a better xorg.conf file than default FC6 provides. I don't see why a more elaborate xorg.conf file would cause damage.
Regarding the kernel that is by default with smp enabled, if the kernel version does not work for you, you might use your customized kernel. I'd go with trying the FC6 provided kernel first before trying the custom kernel.
The issues that I used to have with the smp kernel related to cpufrequency and the AMD 32-bit processor. The problem was remedied and the default "kernel" with smp enabled worked for cpufrequency. If you still have errors with the FC6 kernel, you might search for similar bug reports and attach to the bug report or extract the bug report resolution.
Hopefully you can get the GUI installation with either vesa or mga as the specification to xdriver= command. I had to supply sis as the driver on one of the computers which I installed FC6 on. The installer would crash if the parameter was not supplied. Admittadly, the crash was not as major as not even detecting a video card.
Good luck on your second attempt.
Jim noapic linux xdriver=vesa linux xdriver=mga
At 10:16 AM -0800 11/22/06, Usman S. Ansari wrote:
I think I know why it installed XEN on my system. I selected all the options (from text based install) to install on my system.
Well, if this is true, than what should I do to avoid XEN install. Should I take bare minimum and after system is up install rest of the packages or there is a sub option, which I can select to disable Visulization ?
I think you can select all, and then enter into some of them and deselect parts, as well as select things that weren't selected with all. I haven't tried this, and certainly not from a text install.
I was talking about un-selecting visualization (XEN).
Usman
Tony Nelson tonynelson@georgeanelson.com wrote: At 10:16 AM -0800 11/22/06, Usman S. Ansari wrote:
I think I know why it installed XEN on my system. I selected all the options (from text based install) to install on my system.
Well, if this is true, than what should I do to avoid XEN install. Should I take bare minimum and after system is up install rest of the packages or there is a sub option, which I can select to disable Visulization ?
I think you can select all, and then enter into some of them and deselect parts, as well as select things that weren't selected with all. I haven't tried this, and certainly not from a text install.
Thanks for all the help.
When installing, I passed noapic xdriver=mga to kernel.
Everything went well after that. Video card was detected correctly, install used X for collecting information and after booting all devices are working correctly.
Usman
"Usman S. Ansari" uansari@yahoo.com wrote: I think I know why it installed XEN on my system. I selected all the options (from text based install) to install on my system.
Well, if this is true, than what should I do to avoid XEN install. Should I take bare minimum and after system is up install rest of the packages or there is a sub option, which I can select to disable Visulization ?
Usman
Jim Cornette fc-cornette@insight.rr.com wrote: Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Tony and Jim, thanks for your replies.
I will have to reinstall the FC 6 (since it exist no more on my hardisk).
You probably clicked on the "Virtualization" button. It should probably have "Xen" in the name, and Anaconda should warn before installing that additional work will be needed to boot the machine.
Since, FC 6 selected text install, there was no button to click. I do not remmeber checking box next to Xen.
I did a text install during the testing phase of FC6. I agree that the information is a bit vague. When I installed in text mode, it took in a lot of packages. Maybe specifying the xdriver=mga will get you a working GUI installer mode.
*/Jim Cornette /* wrote:
- First it failed to discover my Dell FP 2001 monitor and G 400
video card and assume head less install.
The second choice is to install with 'linux xdriver=vesa' though the entry will also be in the xorg.conf of the installed system. Before the fix, that is what we would have had to resort to using. After the install, you could take care of the issue.
I guess, I can install, FC 6, boot my machine with FC 4 kernel or 2.6.14.2 which I have built and mount FC 6 / as root. Than copy xorg.conf file.
Do you think this will work ?
Copying over the xorg.conf file might give you back a better xorg.conf file than default FC6 provides. I don't see why a more elaborate xorg.conf file would cause damage.
Regarding the kernel that is by default with smp enabled, if the kernel version does not work for you, you might use your customized kernel. I'd go with trying the FC6 provided kernel first before trying the custom kernel.
The issues that I used to have with the smp kernel related to cpufrequency and the AMD 32-bit processor. The problem was remedied and the default "kernel" with smp enabled worked for cpufrequency. If you still have errors with the FC6 kernel, you might search for similar bug reports and attach to the bug report or extract the bug report resolution.
Hopefully you can get the GUI installation with either vesa or mga as the specification to xdriver= command. I had to supply sis as the driver on one of the computers which I installed FC6 on. The installer would crash if the parameter was not supplied. Admittadly, the crash was not as major as not even detecting a video card.
Good luck on your second attempt.
Jim noapic linux xdriver=vesa linux xdriver=mga
Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Thanks for all the help.
When installing, I passed noapic xdriver=mga to kernel.
Everything went well after that. Video card was detected correctly, install used X for collecting information and after booting all devices are working correctly.
Usman
I'm glad that the install went well when installing with those options at install time. I guess for the lack of proper video detection, running /sbin/lspci -n and submitting a bug report with that information should que the developers onto your computer's pci ID numbers so FC7 and above should recognize your video card automagically..
I submitted a report as advised for the sis lack of detection problem. As an example, here is the vague report that I submitted.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213884
Jim
*/"Usman S. Ansari" uansari@yahoo.com/* wrote:
I think I know why it installed XEN on my system. I selected all the options (from text based install) to install on my system. Well, if this is true, than what should I do to avoid XEN install. Should I take bare minimum and after system is up install rest of the packages or there is a sub option, which I can select to disable Visulization ? Usman
Hopefully you can get the GUI installation with either vesa or mga as the specification to xdriver= command. I had to supply sis as the driver on one of the computers which I installed FC6 on. The installer would crash if the parameter was not supplied. Admittadly, the crash was not as major as not even detecting a video card. Good luck on your second attempt. Jim noapic linux xdriver=vesa linux xdriver=mga --
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Jim,
I think this is not needed, since now I realize the problem is not "not detection" but the problem was "no using noapic" flag.
I verified with FC4 install, if I have noapic taken out from grub command line, some of the device stop working, like ethernet RTL-8139
I would like to sincerely thank Fedora Core team for coming up with excellent rreleases every six months.
Usman
I'm glad that the install went well when installing with those options at install time. I guess for the lack of proper video detection, running /sbin/lspci -n and submitting a bug report with that information should que the developers onto your computer's pci ID numbers so FC7 and above should recognize your video card automagically..
I submitted a report as advised for the sis lack of detection problem. As an example, here is the vague report that I submitted.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213884
Jim
Usman S. Ansari wrote:
Jim,
I think this is not needed, since now I realize the problem is not "not detection" but the problem was "no using noapic" flag.
I verified with FC4 install, if I have noapic taken out from grub command line, some of the device stop working, like ethernet RTL-8139
I would like to sincerely thank Fedora Core team for coming up with excellent rreleases every six months.
Usman
Thanks for relaying that fact regarding the noapic option.
I basically agree with the much improved release as time goes on, though php in yum is consuming 91% cpu and is not progressing. Overall, a great job with the release.
Jim
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