Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
Thank.
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
I don't know if this mailing list is the right place to ask this, maybe contact Skype support? I've been using 32-bit and I don't remember ever seeing a 64-bit alternative. Do you need 64-bit for any reason?
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
Thank.
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On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bit thing is even maintained. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - To err is human. To forgive, a large sum of money is needed. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On 01/18/2016 12:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bit thing is even maintained.
This is the crap about closed source proprietary software. If you need it, then you have to put up with what it is - no custom builds for your preferred architecture, let alone preferred GUI.
On 01/18/2016 11:49 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/18/2016 12:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bit thing is even maintained.
This is the crap about closed source proprietary software. If you need it, then you have to put up with what it is - no custom builds for your preferred architecture, let alone preferred GUI.
I suppose someone with DEEP pockets could set up a VOIP gateway with landlines so we could use OSS like ekiga, twinkle, kopete, pidgin, etc. as normal and also have landline access. I don't see that happening in the near future.
Of course, if you happen to know any of the people who won the last Powerball lottery, perhaps you could convince them to sink a million or so into it. ;-p ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "lousy hunter" - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On 01/18/2016 12:59 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 11:49 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/18/2016 12:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bit thing is even maintained.
This is the crap about closed source proprietary software. If you need it, then you have to put up with what it is - no custom builds for your preferred architecture, let alone preferred GUI.
I suppose someone with DEEP pockets could set up a VOIP gateway with landlines so we could use OSS like ekiga, twinkle, kopete, pidgin, etc. as normal and also have landline access. I don't see that happening in the near future.
Of course, if you happen to know any of the people who won the last Powerball lottery, perhaps you could convince them to sink a million or so into it. ;-p
So, I am wondering why is the skype implementation proprietary? Since it is the physical infrastructure (the communications equipment and accounts database computers ...etc) that is (are) the primary investment, why should the protocol implementation be so proprietary? If anyone wanted to set up a similar service and had the money for the equipment, they can do so now, using open source, without the proprietary implementation of skype. So, I am just somewhat puzzled by the secretiveness of MS and the previous proprietors of skype.
So, I am wondering why is the skype implementation proprietary? Since it is the physical infrastructure (the communications equipment and accounts database computers ...etc) that is (are) the primary investment, why should the protocol implementation be so proprietary? If anyone wanted to set up a similar service and had the money for the equipment, they can do so now, using open source, without the proprietary implementation of skype. So, I am just somewhat puzzled by the secretiveness of MS and the previous proprietors of skype.
They could benefit from what OS brings to the table, but they would also be offering their optimizations with real time video and audio quality adjustment (for instance) for everyone. They invested on it, it is part of their business, they do not want to give it away because doing so would not be good financially, and so on.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/18/2016 12:59 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 11:49 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/18/2016 12:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bit thing is even maintained.
This is the crap about closed source proprietary software. If you need it, then you have to put up with what it is - no custom builds for your preferred architecture, let alone preferred GUI.
I suppose someone with DEEP pockets could set up a VOIP gateway with landlines so we could use OSS like ekiga, twinkle, kopete, pidgin, etc. as normal and also have landline access. I don't see that happening in the near future.
Of course, if you happen to know any of the people who won the last Powerball lottery, perhaps you could convince them to sink a million or so into it. ;-p
So, I am wondering why is the skype implementation proprietary? Since it is the physical infrastructure (the communications equipment and accounts database computers ...etc) that is (are) the primary investment, why should the protocol implementation be so proprietary? If anyone wanted to set up a similar service and had the money for the equipment, they can do so now, using open source, without the proprietary implementation of skype. So, I am just somewhat puzzled by the secretiveness of MS and the previous proprietors of skype.
Ive given up on skype.... though its installed, Ive moved on to QTOX, does pretty much the same thing in a secure manner.
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Outback Dingo outbackdingo@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/18/2016 12:59 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 11:49 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/18/2016 12:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Hi,
Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time....
I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility.
Ranjan
On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre pdupre@gmx.com wrote:
Hello, > > Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ? >
There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bit
dont be. M$ needs all the revenue it can generate, any way it can.
they are not going quietly to that sleep as sun has, soon cisco too, etc... Very Sad!
you must see press clippings that point to serious ROI shortfall for M$ initiates.
IMHO, jackc...
On 01/18/2016 03:37 PM, Jack Craig wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Outback Dingo <outbackdingo@gmail.com mailto:outbackdingo@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:07 PM, jd1008 <jd1008@gmail.com <mailto:jd1008@gmail.com>> wrote: On 01/18/2016 12:59 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 01/18/2016 11:49 AM, jd1008 wrote: On 01/18/2016 12:38 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 01/18/2016 06:43 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, Is there a 64-bit version of skype for anything? MS users are two stupid to realize that their machines (no different from ours) have been 64-bit for a long time.... I agree that it would be good to not have to install a 32-bit skype and associated libraries, but I am not aware of such a possibility. Ranjan On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:08:56 +0100 Patrick Dupre <pdupre@gmx.com <mailto:pdupre@gmx.com>> wrote: Hello, Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ? There is no 64-bit Skype for Linux (any flavor), never has been and probably never will be. Remember that Skype is now owned by Microsoft and Linux is really the "poor stepchild". I'm frankly amazed the 32-bitdont be. M$ needs all the revenue it can generate, any way it can.
they are not going quietly to that sleep as sun has, soon cisco too, etc... Very Sad!
you must see press clippings that point to serious ROI shortfall for M$ initiates.
IMHO, jackc...
If the tox project stabilizes, and there is a publicly funded physical infrastructure, I think people will switch to it by droves.
Il giorno lun, 18/01/2016 alle 21.10 +0100, Outback Dingo ha scritto:
Ive given up on skype.... though its installed, Ive moved on to QTOX, does pretty much the same thing in a secure manner.
Where is qTox for Fedora?
Thanks
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno lun, 18/01/2016 alle 21.10 +0100, Outback Dingo ha scritto:
Ive given up on skype.... though its installed, Ive moved on to QTOX, does pretty much the same thing in a secure manner.
Where is qTox for Fedora?
https://tox.chat/ and https://wiki.tox.chat/Binaries#gnulinux
Thanks
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
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Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 07.25 +0100, Outback Dingo ha scritto:
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:03 AM, Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno lun, 18/01/2016 alle 21.10 +0100, Outback Dingo ha scritto:
Ive given up on skype.... though its installed, Ive moved on to
QTOX,
does pretty much the same thing in a secure manner.
Where is qTox for Fedora?
https://tox.chat/ and https://wiki.tox.chat/Binaries#gnulinux
Not work on Fedora 23, like message Message of Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:04:39 say:
BUNK! It provides binaries that are linked to libraries that Fedora does NOT provide (nor does rpmfusion).
I had to install this:
sudo dnf install ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/ftp.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/p/po/postinstaller/fedora/releases/22/x86_64/openssl1-1.0.0-2.fc22.x86_64.rpm
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2016, jd1008 sent:
So, I am wondering why is the skype implementation proprietary? Since it is the physical infrastructure (the communications equipment and accounts database computers ...etc) that is (are) the primary investment, why should the protocol implementation be so proprietary? If anyone wanted to set up a similar service and had the money for the equipment, they can do so now, using open source, without the proprietary implementation of skype. So, I am just somewhat puzzled by the secretiveness of MS and the previous proprietors of skype.
Because that would be against their plans of world domination. I only say that in half-jest. It's not untrue, and it sums it up quite succinctly.
We've known for decades that they want everyone to use Microsoft, locking you into their systems, by locking out alternatives. They'll let things get out that hook you into their systems, because what they deign to let work, only has partial functionality (e.g. like other software not being fully able to read and write Word documents), so that you'll stump up the money and swap over to them for something that (purports to be) fully functional.
With mickeysoft, it's all about the money. How can they get as much from you as possible, time and time again. The software can be rotten as hell, so long as they get your money. Crude capitalism at its worst. With other programmers, that don't have that mindset, the prime goal can be that the software does what it's supposed to, properly.
I make no bones about being anti-Microsoft. I suffered the nightmare of using their shite product for years, and the carnage they inflict upon everyone else, for even longer.
And much as I'd like to say, just don't use Skype, use something else; that doesn't work when someone wants to Skype you. They see it as a failing in your OS that you can't, not that it's a deliberately engineered obstacle in the Skype product, to exclude you (because you don't run Windows), nor do they grasp that it's deliberate incompatibility with any other VOIP protocol. And they're not going to abandon using Skype just for you.
Skype's a dopey thing, anyway. It makes sense only as an alternative to expensive long distance and overseas calls. For other calls, the ordinary telephone is better (it "simply works," and sounds clearer), than using a $1000 computer that has to be permanently powered up, running, and you logged in, to make and receive phone calls.
And another thing. We've had video camming for over a decade, now. And it's still just as crashy and buggy. Trying to send or receive a webcam has always been an exercise in the whole computer, or webcam software crashing, and doing damn fool things. Half the time I tried to use it you had to fight to get a picture working. There was many hang-up and call again attempts, restart the camera, restart the software, even reboots. And I've had one call where the other person's picture was upside down, of all the stupid video processing errors to make.
On 01/18/2016 07:54 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 18 January 2016, jd1008 sent:
So, I am wondering why is the skype implementation proprietary? Since it is the physical infrastructure (the communications equipment and accounts database computers ...etc) that is (are) the primary investment, why should the protocol implementation be so proprietary? If anyone wanted to set up a similar service and had the money for the equipment, they can do so now, using open source, without the proprietary implementation of skype. So, I am just somewhat puzzled by the secretiveness of MS and the previous proprietors of skype.
Because that would be against their plans of world domination. I only say that in half-jest. It's not untrue, and it sums it up quite succinctly.
We've known for decades that they want everyone to use Microsoft, locking you into their systems, by locking out alternatives. They'll let things get out that hook you into their systems, because what they deign to let work, only has partial functionality (e.g. like other software not being fully able to read and write Word documents), so that you'll stump up the money and swap over to them for something that (purports to be) fully functional.
With mickeysoft, it's all about the money. How can they get as much from you as possible, time and time again. The software can be rotten as hell, so long as they get your money. Crude capitalism at its worst. With other programmers, that don't have that mindset, the prime goal can be that the software does what it's supposed to, properly.
I make no bones about being anti-Microsoft. I suffered the nightmare of using their shite product for years, and the carnage they inflict upon everyone else, for even longer.
And much as I'd like to say, just don't use Skype, use something else; that doesn't work when someone wants to Skype you. They see it as a failing in your OS that you can't, not that it's a deliberately engineered obstacle in the Skype product, to exclude you (because you don't run Windows), nor do they grasp that it's deliberate incompatibility with any other VOIP protocol. And they're not going to abandon using Skype just for you.
Skype's a dopey thing, anyway. It makes sense only as an alternative to expensive long distance and overseas calls. For other calls, the ordinary telephone is better (it "simply works," and sounds clearer), than using a $1000 computer that has to be permanently powered up, running, and you logged in, to make and receive phone calls.
And another thing. We've had video camming for over a decade, now. And it's still just as crashy and buggy. Trying to send or receive a webcam has always been an exercise in the whole computer, or webcam software crashing, and doing damn fool things. Half the time I tried to use it you had to fight to get a picture working. There was many hang-up and call again attempts, restart the camera, restart the software, even reboots. And I've had one call where the other person's picture was upside down, of all the stupid video processing errors to make.
Yes - ALL businesses are only about MONEY. But what is wrong with most businesses is that they resort to dishonesty, deception, theft of IP of smaller underfunded companies (which cannot defend themselves nor pay the huge attorney fees to file lawsuits), bribery of government officials in return for favors (such as passing legislation in favor of said companies), theft of company finances and then declaring bankruptcy so that the people inherit their debt (Remember Mitt Romney? Though he was not the only one - that's exactly what he did, but at least that was on public records). Many other companies that practice such things do it in secret, and nothing is on public records. How? They have backing at levels higher than Congress and the Executive. No, not God, but those who think they are God - The Central Banksters of most of the world.
Money earned by honest and truthful business practices is a rare commodity today.
On 01/19/2016 09:17 AM, jd1008 wrote:
Yes - ALL businesses are only about MONEY. But what is wrong with most businesses is that they resort to dishonesty, deception, theft of IP of smaller underfunded companies (which cannot defend themselves nor pay the huge attorney fees to file lawsuits), bribery of government officials in return for favors (such as passing legislation in favor of said companies), theft of company finances and then declaring bankruptcy so that the people inherit their debt (Remember Mitt Romney? Though he was not the only one - that's exactly what he did, but at least that was on public records). Many other companies that practice such things do it in secret, and nothing is on public records. How? They have backing at levels higher than Congress and the Executive. No, not God, but those who think they are God - The Central Banksters of most of the world.
Money earned by honest and truthful business practices is a rare commodity today.
Please keep your political opinions off of this list.
On 01/19/2016 10:22 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/19/2016 09:17 AM, jd1008 wrote:
Yes - ALL businesses are only about MONEY. But what is wrong with most businesses is that they resort to dishonesty, deception, theft of IP of smaller underfunded companies (which cannot defend themselves nor pay the huge attorney fees to file lawsuits), bribery of government officials in return for favors (such as passing legislation in favor of said companies), theft of company finances and then declaring bankruptcy so that the people inherit their debt (Remember Mitt Romney? Though he was not the only one - that's exactly what he did, but at least that was on public records). Many other companies that practice such things do it in secret, and nothing is on public records. How? They have backing at levels higher than Congress and the Executive. No, not God, but those who think they are God - The Central Banksters of most of the world.
Money earned by honest and truthful business practices is a rare commodity today.
Please keep your political opinions off of this list.
I do not give any heed to anal censors.
On 01/19/2016 09:49 AM, jd1008 wrote:
I do not give any heed to anal censors.
This is a list for discussing Fedora Linux, not politics. What I quoted was off-topic, and it doesn't matter if I agree with you or not, it still doesn't belong here. I haven't called this to the attention of the moderators, and I'd rather not, but I'm fairly sure what they'd say about it and your ad homonem reply.
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:03:14AM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
This is a list for discussing Fedora Linux, not politics. What I quoted was off-topic, and it doesn't matter if I agree with you or not, it still doesn't belong here. I haven't called this to the attention of the moderators, and I'd rather not, but I'm fairly sure what they'd say about it and your ad homonem reply.
Correct. Let's keep discussion on topic, and civil. Any further name-calling will result in moderation, as will continued off-topic discussion beyond a reasonable, friendly level. This isn't "censorship"; anyone in this thread is definitely welcome to take their opinions in whatever appropriate forum they like. This just isn't it.
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Allegedly, on or about 19 January 2016, jd1008 sent:
Yes - ALL businesses are only about MONEY.
I call foul on that one. I've been in business for over twenty years, and that's not the case with me.
Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:59:04 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com kirjoitti:
I suppose someone with DEEP pockets could set up a VOIP gateway with landlines so we could use OSS like ekiga, twinkle, kopete, pidgin, etc. as normal and also have landline access. I don't see that happening in the near future.
Or... Just move to http://utox.org/
Jarmo
On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:07:09 +0200 jarmo oh1mrr@nic.fi wrote:
Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:59:04 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com kirjoitti:
I suppose someone with DEEP pockets could set up a VOIP gateway with landlines so we could use OSS like ekiga, twinkle, kopete, pidgin, etc. as normal and also have landline access. I don't see that happening in the near future.
Or... Just move to http://utox.org/
Jarmo
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ? BR, Bob
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:17:19 +0100 Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
No source code, but they at least provide 64 bit code. Otherwise, same shi...
On 01/22/2016 09:23 AM, Bob Marcan wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:17:19 +0100 Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
No source code, but they at least provide 64 bit code.
Source is at
https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore
There is a requirement for libsodium and they _may_ use a later version than what's in the repos. I haven't tried building it yet so I don't know. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Diplomacy: The art of saying "Nice doggy!" until you can find a - - big enough rock. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On 01/22/2016 10:41 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/22/2016 09:23 AM, Bob Marcan wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:17:19 +0100 Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
No source code, but they at least provide 64 bit code.
Source is at
https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcoreThere is a requirement for libsodium and they _may_ use a later version than what's in the repos. I haven't tried building it yet so I don't know.
I think it will be a while before this package comes of age, stabilizes and ready for prime time.
On 01/22/2016 09:51 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/22/2016 10:41 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/22/2016 09:23 AM, Bob Marcan wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:17:19 +0100 Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
No source code, but they at least provide 64 bit code.
Source is at
https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcoreThere is a requirement for libsodium and they _may_ use a later version than what's in the repos. I haven't tried building it yet so I don't know.
I think it will be a while before this package comes of age, stabilizes and ready for prime time.
I agree. I have just built it on an F22 system.
I had all of the dependencies (libopus, libvpx, etc.) already installed. I did install libsodium-devel from the normal Fedora repos, went into the unpacked tox directory and did a
autoreconf -i ./configure --enable-ntox make sudo make install
and it built and installed in /usr/local. I did
/usr/local/bin/nTox -h
and got the help screen. I've done nothing beyond that.
I just wanted to demonstrate that the source IS there (despite what Dario said) and that you can build it on newer Fedora platforms. As is typical of these sorts of projects, the developers seem to prefer Debian-derived systems for development, but Fedora does work just fine and the notes in the "INSTALL.md" file in their GIT repo relating to Fedora compilation are accurate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Batteries not included. Offer not valid in some states. - - Your mileage may vary. Void where prohibited. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
2016-01-22 19:12 GMT+01:00, Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com:
On 01/22/2016 09:51 AM, jd1008 wrote:
On 01/22/2016 10:41 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
On 01/22/2016 09:23 AM, Bob Marcan wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:17:19 +0100 Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
No source code, but they at least provide 64 bit code.
Source is at
https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore
[...]
I just wanted to demonstrate that the source IS there (despite what Dario said) and that you can build it on newer Fedora platforms.
From the context (quoted above) it's quite clear that he was talking
about Viber.
Andras
Il giorno ven, 22/01/2016 alle 15.17 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
My question is for Viber proposed by Bob, and not for tox
I know where is source code of Tox. In this ML there is two specific tread for Tox here:
* Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:40:18 - F23: qtox and libsqlchiper * Sun, 04 Oct 2015 15:47:57 - Tox Instant Messaging (replacement of Skype)
Thanks
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
On 23 January 2016 10:00:12 GMT, Dario Lesca d.lesca@solinos.it wrote:
Il giorno ven, 22/01/2016 alle 15.17 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
My question is for Viber proposed by Bob, and not for tox
I know where is source code of Tox. In this ML there is two specific tread for Tox here:
- Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:40:18 - F23: qtox and libsqlchiper
- Sun, 04 Oct 2015 15:47:57 - Tox Instant Messaging (replacement of Skype)
Thanks
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
-- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 23 Workstation)
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You could try the jitsi client at jitsi.org and register and account at jit.se or set up your own XMPP server. That's pretty much a Skype replacement. -- Junk
On 01/23/2016 02:00 AM, Dario Lesca wrote:
Il giorno ven, 22/01/2016 alle 15.17 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto:
Il giorno mar, 19/01/2016 alle 10.28 +0100, Bob Marcan ha scritto:
What about http://www.viber.com/en/products/linux ?
where is the source code?
My question is for Viber proposed by Bob, and not for tox
I know where is source code of Tox. In this ML there is two specific tread for Tox here:
- Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:40:18 - F23: qtox and libsqlchiper
- Sun, 04 Oct 2015 15:47:57 - Tox Instant Messaging (replacement of Skype)
Thanks
Viber is a commercial app and source is not available. While it is free right now and has 64-bit Linux support, in this sense it's just another Skype. While independent of Microsoft and others right now, how long is that going to last?
Tox and its apps promise OSS, but it's no where near "ready for prime time" yet and you'll still have to find someone with deep pockets and a desire to "just be nice to the OSS community" to set up that landline hub for free.
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On 01/18/2016 10:07 PM, jarmo wrote:
Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:59:04 -0800 Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com kirjoitti:
I suppose someone with DEEP pockets could set up a VOIP gateway with landlines so we could use OSS like ekiga, twinkle, kopete, pidgin, etc. as normal and also have landline access. I don't see that happening in the near future.
Or... Just move to http://utox.org/
Jarmo
BUNK! It provides binaries that are linked to libraries that Fedora does NOT provide (nor does rpmfusion).
Instructions are here: http://superuser.com/questions/950300/how-to-install-skype-on-fedora-22-64-b... or http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2012/install-skype-on-fedora-centos-re...
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Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 1:31 AM From: jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: skype
On 01/18/2016 07:08 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
Is there any 64-bit version of skype for fedora 22 ?
Thank.
Hey Pat, where did u get the tox sources or binaries that you say you are now using?
Thanx!!
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