Thank you Mr. Matthew Miller,
I have never heard of a "Compose Key."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
I try to learn this computering stuff, but I feel like a dog chasing my tail.
In Gnome 40, the setting is easily found in the Keyboard settings menu under Settings.
I have been needing this for years. It might maybe be possible that I once knew it, but the idea became forgotten to me.
David Locklear
On 3/29/21 2:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2021-03-29 at 15:46 -0500, David wrote:
Thank you Mr. Matthew Miller,
It's easier to know what your post is about if it's written as a reply rather than a new message, like this one in fact. That's what threading is for.
Yes, a reference would be good. My assumption was that he's referring to a blog post or other announcement somewhere.
On 3/30/21 12:09 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/29/21 2:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2021-03-29 at 15:46 -0500, David wrote:
Thank you Mr. Matthew Miller,
It's easier to know what your post is about if it's written as a reply rather than a new message, like this one in fact. That's what threading is for.
Yes, a reference would be good. My assumption was that he's referring to a blog post or other announcement somewhere.
Perhaps some readers may not know what the compose key is good for. Using compose plus two other key-strokes, will get you just about all the diacritical marks used in most European languages, common fractions, currency symbols, degree signs and other things I can't think of. And they're all simple to do, without trying to memorize obscure codes. For instance, Spanish: ¿ ¡ señor, tío: German: Straße, Fräulein; French: hôtel, françoise; épinards; Italian: è; ½, ¾ 75°: €30, £40, 50¥, 10¢. Just combine the letter with a symbol, or in some cases, just type the letter twice, and voilà! --doug
On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 00:43 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
On 3/30/21 12:09 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/29/21 2:19 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2021-03-29 at 15:46 -0500, David wrote:
Thank you Mr. Matthew Miller,
It's easier to know what your post is about if it's written as a reply rather than a new message, like this one in fact. That's what threading is for.
Yes, a reference would be good. My assumption was that he's referring to a blog post or other announcement somewhere.
Perhaps some readers may not know what the compose key is good for. Using compose plus two other key-strokes, will get you just about all the diacritical marks used in most European languages, common fractions, currency symbols, degree signs and other things I can't think of. And they're all Spanish: ¿ ¡ señor, tío: German: Straße, Fräulein; French: hôtel, françoise; épinards; Italian: è; ½, ¾ 75°: €30, £40, 50¥, 10¢. Just combine the letter with a symbol, or in some cases, just type the letter twice, and voilà!
I'm aware of that. My comment wasn't about the substance of the message but how it was posted. It's actually a reply to an earlier post on this list, but wasn't sent as such.
poc
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 12:43:33AM -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Perhaps some readers may not know what the compose key is good for. Using compose plus two other key-strokes, will get you just about all the diacritical marks used in most European languages, common fractions, currency symbols, degree signs and other things I can't think of. And they're all simple to do, without trying to memorize obscure codes. For instance, Spanish: ¿ ¡ señor, tío: German: Straße, Fräulein; French: hôtel, françoise; épinards; Italian: è; ½, ¾ 75°: €30, £40, 50¥, 10¢. Just combine the letter with a symbol, or in some cases, just type the letter twice, and voilà!
Plus, you can put your own in ~/.XCompose:
<Multi_key> <less> <3> : "❤️" U2764 # red emoji heart <Multi_key> <m> <m> : "𝔪" U1D4C2 # mathematical script small m
Sorry for the confusion in my recent post. Fedora 34 WS along with Gnome 40 ships with the "Compose Key" disabled. I chose to enable it, following Mr. Miller's advice from a previous post ( related to Gnome 40 Tweaks ) and his suggestion, to set the CAPS-Lock Key as the Compose Key.
I have not figured out yet how to use either the CAPS-Lock Key, nor a Compose Key.
My keyboard is a ROCCAT ISKU, so I may have to download some driver off of COPR. At the moment, all that is above my computering skills. But I will put it on my long list of things to learn.
Otherwise, my first day with Gnome 40.0 ( the latest update, 40.0-1, and 40.0-2 ), is going smoothly.
Thank you Gnome 40 folks, and fc34 folks, etc.
Below is just some feedback and might be of interest to someone not yet familiar with Fedora 34 Beta.
As of today, below is a list of all the Gnome 3 related packages on my Fedora 34 WS Beta install:
gnome-bluetooth 1:3.34.5-1 gnome-bluetooth-libs 1:3.34.5-1 gnome-color-manager 3.36.0-4 gnome-logs 3.36.0-4 gnome-menus 3.36.0-4 gnome-online-accounts 3.39.92-1 gnome-online-miners 3.34.0-8 gnome-terminal 3.38.1-3 gnome-terminal-nautilus 3.38.1-3 gnome-themes-extra 3.28-12 gnome-user-share 3.34.0-5
There are five Gnome 40 packages that are either Beta or RC ( meaning not yet 40.0-1 )
gnome-backgrounds 40rc gnome-session.x86_64 40~beta-1 gnome-session-wayland-session.x86_64 40~beta-1 gnome-session-xsession.x86_64 40~beta-1 gnome-shell-extension-background-logo.noarch 40.0~rc-1
David Locklear newbie Fedora 34 WS user
On 31/03/2021 04:54, David wrote:
I chose to enable it, following Mr. Miller's advice from a previous post ( related to Gnome 40 Tweaks ) and his suggestion, to set the CAPS-Lock Key as the Compose Key.
I have not figured out yet how to use either the CAPS-Lock Key, nor a Compose Key.
My keyboard is a ROCCAT ISKU, so I may have to download some driver off of COPR. At the moment, all that is above my computering skills. But I will put it on my long list of things to learn.
If you don't regularly use the Compose key to enter "extended" characters it is of little use and serves only to tax one's memory. Also, if you use VM's the use of the Caps-Lock key can get annoying when moving between VM's as the Caps-Lock remains engaged when moving between the VM's and the host system.
Some folks, such as myself, have no need for the compose key. I don't regularly need to type characters such as ß or ¿. But I need to type things such as
八德路四段 and 渋谷 or マクドナルド
So, ibus works best for me. Besides, I have a hard enough time remembering my bopomofo as I don't use it as much as I used to.
Thank you very much, Mr. Greshko.
I had never heard of ibus either.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IBus
One of these days, I am going to read some articles on things I should already know by now. I was 53 years old, when I started to become interested in computers. But the good news, is that I know a tiny bit about Fedora - probably more than the average computer user in my country. I am more interested in hardware than operating systems and software.
David Locklear
On 3/30/21 1:54 PM, David wrote:
Sorry for the confusion in my recent post. Fedora 34 WS along with Gnome 40 ships with the "Compose Key" disabled. I chose to enable it, following Mr. Miller's advice from a previous post ( related to Gnome 40 Tweaks ) and his suggestion, to set the CAPS-Lock Key as the Compose Key.
I prefer to use either right logo key or the "menu" key since I don't have any other use for it.
I have not figured out yet how to use either the CAPS-Lock Key, nor a Compose Key.
Press the compose key, then the other two keys you want to combine. You don't have to hold the compose key. So "<compose> ' e" will give you "é". "<compose> 1 2" -> "½". "<compose> / =" -> "≠", etc.
On 3/30/21 4:54 PM, David wrote:
Sorry for the confusion in my recent post. Fedora 34 WS along with Gnome 40 ships with the "Compose Key" disabled. I chose to enable it, following Mr. Miller's advice from a previous post ( related to Gnome 40 Tweaks ) and his suggestion, to set the CAPS-Lock Key as the Compose Key.
I have not figured out yet how to use either the CAPS-Lock Key, nor a Compose Key.
The more common selection for the Compose key is rt-alt or, if a Windows k/b, then rt/winkey, because these are seldom used for anything else. The caps-lock does what it says: all the letters you type after that except for the numbers on the top row, will be in CAPITAL LETTERS until you hit the caps lock key again. --doug
My keyboard is a ROCCAT ISKU, so I may have to download some driver off of COPR. At the moment, all that is above my computering skills. But I will put it on my long list of things to learn.
Otherwise, my first day with Gnome 40.0 ( the latest update, 40.0-1, and 40.0-2 ), is going smoothly.
Thank you Gnome 40 folks, and fc34 folks, etc.
Below is just some feedback and might be of interest to someone not yet familiar with Fedora 34 Beta.
As of today, below is a list of all the Gnome 3 related packages on my Fedora 34 WS Beta install:
gnome-bluetooth 1:3.34.5-1 gnome-bluetooth-libs 1:3.34.5-1 gnome-color-manager 3.36.0-4 gnome-logs 3.36.0-4 gnome-menus 3.36.0-4 gnome-online-accounts 3.39.92-1 gnome-online-miners 3.34.0-8 gnome-terminal 3.38.1-3 gnome-terminal-nautilus 3.38.1-3 gnome-themes-extra 3.28-12 gnome-user-share 3.34.0-5
There are five Gnome 40 packages that are either Beta or RC ( meaning not yet 40.0-1 )
gnome-backgrounds 40rc gnome-session.x86_64 40~beta-1 gnome-session-wayland-session.x86_64 40~beta-1 gnome-session-xsession.x86_64 40~beta-1 gnome-shell-extension-background-logo.noarch 40.0~rc-1
David Locklear newbie Fedora 34 WS user
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On Tue, 2021-03-30 at 16:11 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
On 3/30/21 1:54 PM, David wrote:
Sorry for the confusion in my recent post. Fedora 34 WS along with Gnome 40 ships with the "Compose Key" disabled. I chose to enable it, following Mr. Miller's advice from a previous post ( related to Gnome 40 Tweaks ) and his suggestion, to set the CAPS-Lock Key as the Compose Key.
have any other use for it.
I have not figured out yet how to use either the CAPS-Lock Key, nor a Compose Key.
Press the compose key, then the other two keys you want to combine. You "é". "<compose> 1 2" -> "½". "<compose> / =" -> "≠", etc.
I write quite a lot in Spanish (using a UK keyboard) so the Compose key is a PITA for accents. I use the ' and ~ as dead keys, which is much faster: áéíóúñ. However I still need the Compose to get ¿ and ¡ so I just have to remember the combo (AltGr+_ for ¿, AltGr+! for ¡).
The downside is that I have to double up the ' (i.e. type ' ') when writing an actual apostrophe, such as in my own surname :-)
poc
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