Login Page changed after last fedora 26 update

[ogio spam]

Hi all,
before the last updates, after power on, my fedora 26 showed a list of
users and asked for password.
I use KDE.

After last upgrade (I can't remember what changed, but some related to
KDE and X11) the login requires user and password, and it no more lists
users and pictures.

Can someone explain me why every update change the behaviour of the
system? And what appened?

Thankyou
 Ambrogio

[Silvia Sánchez]

What is your login screen? GDM? SDDM? Other?
It never showed a list to me, but it depends on what do you use and how do
you set up the theme.

Regards,
Silvia

On 13 November 2017 at 10:13, ogio spam  wrote:
> Hi all,
> before the last updates, after power on, my fedora 26 showed a list of
> users and asked for password.
> I use KDE.
>
> After last upgrade (I can't remember what changed, but some related to
> KDE and X11) the login requires user and password, and it no more lists
> users and pictures.
>
> Can someone explain me why every update change the behaviour of the
> system? And what appened?
>
> Thankyou
>  Ambrogio
> _______________________________________________
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[ogio spam]

I don't know what I'm using.
The question is that it changed after dnf update.
How can I check what i'm using?
Tnx
 Ambrogio
Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 10.41 +0100, Silvia Sánchez ha scritto:
> What is your login screen? GDM? SDDM? Other?
> It never showed a list to me, but it depends on what do you use and
> how do you set up the theme.
>
> Regards,
> Silvia
>
> On 13 November 2017 at 10:13, ogio spam  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > before the last updates, after power on, my fedora 26 showed a list
> > of
> > users and asked for password.
> > I use KDE.
> >
> > After last upgrade (I can't remember what changed, but some related
> > to
> > KDE and X11) the login requires user and password, and it no more
> > lists
> > users and pictures.
> >
> > Can someone explain me why every update change the behaviour of the
> > system? And what appened?
> >
> > Thankyou
> >  Ambrogio
> > _______________________________________________
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
>
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/13/17 18:03, ogio spam wrote:
> I don't know what I'm using.
> The question is that it changed after dnf update.
> How can I check what i'm using?

The output of

ll /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service

Will point to the display manager you're using

[ogio spam]

Hi Ed,

Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 19.48 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> On 11/13/17 18:03, ogio spam wrote:
> > I don't know what I'm using.
> > The question is that it changed after dnf update.
> > How can I check what i'm using?
>
> The output of
>
> ll /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service
>
> Will point to the display manager you're using

Actually the display manager is sddm:
lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 36  6 lug 00.04 /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service

The date of the file is Jul 06, so I think no changes was done after
the date.
So the question is, why it is so different after an update?

Bye
 Ambrogio
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[Ed Greshko]

On 11/13/17 22:09, ogio spam wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 19.48 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
>
> Actually the display manager is sddm:
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 36  6 lug 00.04 /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service
>
> The date of the file is Jul 06, so I think no changes was done after
> the date.
> So the question is, why it is so different after an update?

I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not changed for me.  So,
I can't think of what may have happened for you.

I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible to post a
screenshot or photo?

[ogio spam]

Hi Ed,
I can't remember... can photos be attached to a messages or there is a
simply way to upload images?

Tnx

Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 22.49 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> On 11/13/17 22:09, ogio spam wrote:
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 19.48 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> >
> > Actually the display manager is sddm:
> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 36  6 lug 00.04 /etc/systemd/system/display
> > -manager.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service
> >
> > The date of the file is Jul 06, so I think no changes was done
> > after
> > the date.
> > So the question is, why it is so different after an update?
>
> I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not
> changed for me.  So,
> I can't think of what may have happened for you.
>
> I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible
> to post a
> screenshot or photo?
>
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/13/2017 06:56 AM, ogio spam wrote:
> Hi Ed,
> I can't remember... can photos be attached to a messages or there is a
> simply way to upload images?

Take a screen snapshot or photo, upload it to something like pastebin
and include a link to the pastebin upload in your message. Do NOT
attach the screenshot to a message here in the list.
> Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 22.49 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> > On 11/13/17 22:09, ogio spam wrote:
> > > Hi Ed,
> > >
> > > Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 19.48 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> > >
> > > Actually the display manager is sddm:
> > > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 36  6 lug 00.04 /etc/systemd/system/display
> > > -manager.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/sddm.service
> > >
> > > The date of the file is Jul 06, so I think no changes was done
> > > after
> > > the date.
> > > So the question is, why it is so different after an update?
> >
> > I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not
> > changed for me.  So,
> > I can't think of what may have happened for you.
> >
> > I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible
> > to post a
> > screenshot or photo?
> >
> > users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> > To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
>
> users mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[ogio spam]

Hi all,

Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 22.49 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not
> changed for me.  So,
> I can't think of what may have happened for you.
>
> I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible
> to post a
> screenshot or photo?

I attached the photos.

Before update
https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI3FMuKOvmx

After update
https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI32ZFW0rMs

Thanks
 Ambrogio

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> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/14/2017 10:08 AM, ogio spam wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 22.49 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> > I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not
> > changed for me.  So,
> > I can't think of what may have happened for you.
> >
> > I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible
> > to post a
> > screenshot or photo?
>
> I attached the photos.
>
> Before update
> https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI3FMuKOvmx
>
> After update
> https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI32ZFW0rMs

If you're using sddm-greeter, have a look at the "/etc/sddm.conf" file.
There's a "MinimumUID" parameter which is set by default to 1000. This
means that users must have that user ID or higher to be displayed in the
login screen. If a user has a UID of <1000, then they're not displayed.

If you're using lightdm, then the file is "/etc/lightdm/users.conf" and
the equivalent parameter is "minimum-uid".

You may have buggered that at one time to display lower numbers or
(possibly) your greeter got changed from one to the other and is now
using a config that's not the same.

IIRC, somewhere around F22 or something, the default minimum UID used
when you create users bumped to 1000 from the previous value of 500. I
use XFCE/lightdm and my machines have all been continually upgraded. My
users were created long ago with UIDs based on the 500 number, so I have
"minimum-uid=500" in my "/etc/lightdm/users.conf" file.
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[Rex Dieter]

ogio spam wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 22.49 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> > I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not
> > changed for me.  So,
> > I can't think of what may have happened for you.
> >
> > I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible
> > to post a
> > screenshot or photo?
>
> I attached the photos.
>
> Before update
> https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI3FMuKOvmx
>
> After update
> https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI32ZFW0rMs

How many users do you have?  I vaguely recall the breeze style was adapted 
at some point to better deal with many users... if above some threshold 
would no longer give a userlist.

-- Rex

[Rex Dieter]

Rex Dieter wrote:
> ogio spam wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Il giorno lun, 13/11/2017 alle 22.49 +0800, Ed Greshko ha scritto:
> > > I have fully updated F26 systems and the login displays have not
> > > changed for me.  So,
> > > I can't think of what may have happened for you.
> > >
> > > I am not entirely clear on what you display looks like now.  Possible
> > > to post a
> > > screenshot or photo?
> >
> > I attached the photos.
> >
> > Before update
> > https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI3FMuKOvmx
> >
> > After update
> > https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI32ZFW0rMs
>
> How many users do you have?  I vaguely recall the breeze style was adapted
> at some point to better deal with many users... if above some threshold
> would no longer give a userlist.

found it, see /etc/sddm.conf, 
DisableAvatarsThreshold=
key, defaults to 7

-- Rex

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:52:23 -0600
Rex Dieter  wrote:
> Rex Dieter wrote:
> > ogio spam wrote:
> > > [ .... ]
> > > I attached the photos.
> > >
> > > Before update
> > > https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI3FMuKOvmx
> > >
> > > After update
> > > https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI32ZFW0rMs
> >
> > How many users do you have?  I vaguely recall the breeze style was
> > adapted at some point to better deal with many users... if above
> > some threshold would no longer give a userlist.
>
> found it, see /etc/sddm.conf, 
> DisableAvatarsThreshold=
> key, defaults to 7

This, and note the bug for man sddm.conf, where the explanation for
this config option should be documented, which it isn't:

https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/785

and here:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856195

"tl;dr: Add this block to your /etc/sddm.conf (create the file if it
doesn't exists):
[Theme]
EnableAvatars=true

The new version of sddm has a new configuration option 
(DisableAvatarsThreshold) that disables the use of the avatars when the
amount of users is greater than this value. This option reduces the
time sddm takes to load in systems that have a large number of users,
that probably have their home directories using nfs automount.

The upstream default is 7, which is kind of low. If you have more than
7 users in your system you might want to raise this value, or you can
explicitly set the EnableAvatars value.

This is documented in the generated example configuration file in 
(/usr/share/doc/sddm/sddm.conf), I'm requesting upstream to 
document this option in the sddm.conf manpage."

The important file 
/usr/share/doc/sddm/sddm.conf
seems to be nowhere to be found here on F26 .... or in any package that
might provide it for this system.... or I failed to search for it ...

[ogio spam]

Hi all,
thankyou for this help.
I solved changing the options in the sddm.conf

Bye
 Ambrogio

Il giorno mer, 15/11/2017 alle 15.08 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer ha
scritto:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:52:23 -0600
> Rex Dieter  wrote:
> > Rex Dieter wrote:
> > > ogio spam wrote:
> > > > [ .... ]
> > > > I attached the photos.
> > > >
> > > > Before update
> > > > https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI3FMuKOvmx
> > > >
> > > > After update
> > > > https://imagebin.ca/v/3hI32ZFW0rMs%C2%A0%C2%A0;
> > >
> > > How many users do you have?  I vaguely recall the breeze style
> > > was
> > > adapted at some point to better deal with many users... if above
> > > some threshold would no longer give a userlist.
> >
> > found it, see /etc/sddm.conf, 
> > DisableAvatarsThreshold=
> > key, defaults to 7
>
> This, and note the bug for man sddm.conf, where the explanation for
> this config option should be documented, which it isn't:
>
> https://github.com/sddm/sddm/issues/785
>
> and here:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=856195
>
> "tl;dr: Add this block to your /etc/sddm.conf (create the file if it
> doesn't exists):
> [Theme]
> EnableAvatars=true
>
> The new version of sddm has a new configuration option 
> (DisableAvatarsThreshold) that disables the use of the avatars when
> the
> amount of users is greater than this value. This option reduces the
> time sddm takes to load in systems that have a large number of users,
> that probably have their home directories using nfs automount.
>
> The upstream default is 7, which is kind of low. If you have more
> than
> 7 users in your system you might want to raise this value, or you can
> explicitly set the EnableAvatars value.
>
> This is documented in the generated example configuration file in 
> (/usr/share/doc/sddm/sddm.conf), I'm requesting upstream to 
> document this option in the sddm.conf manpage."
>
> The important file 
> /usr/share/doc/sddm/sddm.conf
> seems to be nowhere to be found here on F26 .... or in any package
> that
> might provide it for this system.... or I failed to search for it ...
>
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