screwed up fonts or something

[ToddAndMargo]

Hi All,

Fedora 38

Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
commands

# rpm --rebuilddb
# rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
# dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
# reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
# dnf autoremove

Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
all their text, except for the first letter and any
numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.

This is krusader:
https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png

How in the world do I fix this?

Many thanks,
-T

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 38
>
> Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
> commands
>
> # rpm --rebuilddb
> # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered

Why would you need to repeat that?
> # dnf autoremove
>
> Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> all their text, except for the first letter and any
> numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
>
> This is krusader:
> https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
>
> How in the world do I fix this?

Probably reboot, or at least logout.  A lot of things don't like having 
libraries and such changed underneath them.

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 21:21, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Fedora 38
> >
> > Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
> > commands
> >
> > # rpm --rebuilddb
> > # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> > # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> > # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
>
> Why would you need to repeat that?

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/

To update your Fedora release from the command-line do:

sudo dnf upgrade --refresh

and reboot your computer.

Important: Do not skip this step. System updates are
      required to receive    signing keys of higher-versioned
      releases, and they often fix problems related to the
      upgrade process.

Myself, I have found that after reboot, there a always a
few stragglers that got missed the first time around.

And it begs the issue, why update your current version if
everything is going to be replaced anyway
> > # dnf autoremove
> >
> > Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> > all their text, except for the first letter and any
> > numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
> >
> > This is krusader:
> > https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
> >
> > How in the world do I fix this?
>
> Probably reboot, or at least logout.  A lot of things don't like having 
> libraries and such changed underneath them.

Three reboots now.  No change.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/8/23 21:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 11/8/23 21:21, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Fedora 38
> > >
> > > Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte 
> > > following commands
> > >
> > > # rpm --rebuilddb
> > > # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> > > # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> > > # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> >
> > Why would you need to repeat that?
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/
>
> To update your Fedora release from the command-line do:
>
> sudo dnf upgrade --refresh
>
> and reboot your computer.
>
> Important: Do not skip this step. System updates are
>       required to receive    signing keys of higher-versioned
>       releases, and they often fix problems related to the
>       upgrade process.
>
> Myself, I have found that after reboot, there a always a
> few stragglers that got missed the first time around.
>
> And it begs the issue, why update your current version if
> everything is going to be replaced anyway

It tells you why right in the "Important:" section.  Personally, I don't 
do a full upgrade.  I just make sure that the most important parts of 
the upgrade process are up-to-date and I've never had a problem.
> > > # dnf autoremove
> > >
> > > Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> > > all their text, except for the first letter and any
> > > numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
> > >
> > > This is krusader:
> > > https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
> > >
> > > How in the world do I fix this?
> >
> > Probably reboot, or at least logout.  A lot of things don't like 
> > having libraries and such changed underneath them.
>
> Three reboots now.  No change.

Then I suggest doing the F39 upgrade now.

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 21:39, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 11/8/23 21:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > On 11/8/23 21:21, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Fedora 38
> > > >
> > > > Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte 
> > > > following commands
> > > >
> > > > # rpm --rebuilddb
> > > > # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> > > > # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> > > > # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> > >
> > > Why would you need to repeat that?
> >
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/
> >
> > To update your Fedora release from the command-line do:
> >
> > sudo dnf upgrade --refresh
> >
> > and reboot your computer.
> >
> > Important: Do not skip this step. System updates are
> >       required to receive    signing keys of higher-versioned
> >       releases, and they often fix problems related to the
> >       upgrade process.
> >
> > Myself, I have found that after reboot, there a always a
> > few stragglers that got missed the first time around.
> >
> > And it begs the issue, why update your current version if
> > everything is going to be replaced anyway
>
> It tells you why right in the "Important:" section.  Personally, I don't 
> do a full upgrade.  I just make sure that the most important parts of 
> the upgrade process are up-to-date and I've never had a problem.
> > > > # dnf autoremove
> > > >
> > > > Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> > > > all their text, except for the first letter and any
> > > > numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
> > > >
> > > > This is krusader:
> > > > https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
> > > >
> > > > How in the world do I fix this?
> > >
> > > Probably reboot, or at least logout.  A lot of things don't like 
> > > having libraries and such changed underneath them.
> >
> > Three reboots now.  No change.
>
> Then I suggest doing the F39 upgrade now.

Never did upgrade to 39 on this computer.  I just started
the process.

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 38
>
> Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
> commands
>
> # rpm --rebuilddb
> # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> # dnf autoremove
>
> Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> all their text, except for the first letter and any
> numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
>
> This is krusader:
> https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
>
> How in the world do I fix this?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T

I started smplayer from thr command line.  It told
me I was missing qqc2-desktop-style

# dnf install qqc2-desktop-style

fixed smplayer.

now to fix krusader

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 22:12, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Fedora 38
> >
> > Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
> > commands
> >
> > # rpm --rebuilddb
> > # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> > # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> > # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> > # dnf autoremove
> >
> > Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> > all their text, except for the first letter and any
> > numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
> >
> > This is krusader:
> > https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
> >
> > How in the world do I fix this?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > -T
>
> I started smplayer from thr command line.  It told
> me I was missing qqc2-desktop-style
>
> # dnf install qqc2-desktop-style
>
> fixed smplayer.
>
> now to fix krusader

Opps, root worked but user did not

[Peter Boy]

> Am 09.11.2023 um 02:46 schrieb ToddAndMargo via users :
>
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 38
>
> Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following commands
>
> # rpm --rebuilddb
> # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> # dnf autoremove

Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically  -—enablerepo=* ?

Many issues will not arise if you just use the documented procedures. These are tested and work on compliant systems.
> Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> all their text, except for the first letter and any
> numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
>
> This is krusader:
> https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
>
> How in the world do I fix this?

Install from scratch and stick to the procedures as documented. Alternatively it may help to install the defective progs, reboot and try to re-install.

--
Peter Boy
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy
[e-mail]

Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2)

Fedora Server Edition Working Group member
Fedora Docs team contributor and board member
Java developer and enthusiast

[Jeffrey Walton]

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 1:43 AM Peter Boy  wrote:
> Am 09.11.2023 um 02:46 schrieb ToddAndMargo via users :
>
> Fedora 38
>
> Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following commands
>
> # rpm --rebuilddb
> # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> # dnf autoremove
>
> Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically  -—enablerepo=* ?

This looked suspicious to me, too.
> Many issues will not arise if you just use the documented procedures. These are tested and work on compliant systems.

Hear, hear!

Wandering off the reservation is sometimes dangerous.

Jeff

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 22:43, Peter Boy wrote:
> > Am 09.11.2023 um 02:46 schrieb ToddAndMargo via users 
> > :
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Fedora 38
> >
> > Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
> > commands
> >
> > # rpm --rebuilddb
> > # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> > # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> > # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> > # dnf autoremove
>
> Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically 
>   -—enablerepo=* ?

I have no idea.  I did say I put some of mu own tweaks into it.
> Many issues will not arise if you just use the documented procedures. 
> These are tested and work on compliant systems.
> > Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> > all their text, except for the first letter and any
> > numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
> >
> > This is krusader:
> > https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
> >
> > How in the world do I fix this?
>
> Install from scratch and stick to the procedures as documented. 
> Alternatively it may help to install the defective progs, reboot and try 
> to re-install.

I did a `dnf reinstall krusader smplayer`.  Did not help.

If I rename ~/.config it does.  So now I have to figure out
what in .config is responsible.

Thank you for the help!

-T

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 22:47, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 1:43 AM Peter Boy  wrote:
> > Am 09.11.2023 um 02:46 schrieb ToddAndMargo via users :
> >
> > Fedora 38
> >
> > Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following commands
> >
> > # rpm --rebuilddb
> > # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> > # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> > # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> > # dnf autoremove
> >
> > Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically  -—enablerepo=* ?
>
> This looked suspicious to me, too.

Those are my personal tweaks.  ANd I hae a reason for it that
I doubt would be useful for the general user
> > Many issues will not arise if you just use the documented procedures. These are tested and work on compliant systems.
>
> Hear, hear!
>
> Wandering off the reservation is sometimes dangerous.

Ship sailed on that one, even since the invention of "vi".
> Jeff

The problem is a user .config issue.  I am tracing it down now.

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/8/23 17:46, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Fedora 38
>
> Getting ready to upgrade my main computer to FC39, I did hte following 
> commands
>
> # rpm --rebuilddb
> # rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
> # dnf --enablerepo=* update --refresh
> # reboot   and repeat the above update until no updates registered
> # dnf autoremove
>
> Okay, now both krusader and smplayer seems to have long
> all their text, except for the first letter and any
> numbers.  Capitol letters seems to come out.
>
> This is krusader:
> https://imgur.com/acSu6x4.png
>
> How in the world do I fix this?
>
> Many thanks,
> -T

I renamed my ~/.config.  Then copied the old entries
over from it to a new ~/.config about three directories
at a time.  Each tem firing up smplayer to see if
it weirded out.  Never did.   All fixed now.

[Tim]

Peter Boy:
> > Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically
> >   -—enablerepo=* ?

ToddAndMargo:
> I have no idea.  I did say I put some of mu own tweaks into it.

Then you get to keep all the broken pieces to play with...

Roasting aside, there are often disabled repos on any system that
normally stay disabled unless the user deliberately enabled them. 
Repos for debugging versions of files, for source RPMs, for testing
versions, etc.  You just enabled them with a wildcard.

I don't envy your job of unscrambling eggs, now.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/9/23 00:47, Tim via users wrote:
> Peter Boy:
> > > Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically
> > >    -—enablerepo=* ?
>
> ToddAndMargo:
> > I have no idea.  I did say I put some of mu own tweaks into it.
>
> Then you get to keep all the broken pieces to play with...
>
> Roasting aside, there are often disabled repos on any system that
> normally stay disabled unless the user deliberately enabled them.
> Repos for debugging versions of files, for source RPMs, for testing
> versions, etc.  You just enabled them with a wildcard.
>
> I don't envy your job of unscrambling eggs, now.

In particular, you will have enabled the `-testing` repos if you didn't 
have those already enabled.

[ToddAndMargo]

On 11/9/23 00:47, Tim via users wrote:
> Peter Boy:
> > > Where in the Docs you found you should do that? Specifically
> > >    -—enablerepo=* ?
>
> ToddAndMargo:
> > I have no idea.  I did say I put some of mu own tweaks into it.
>
> Then you get to keep all the broken pieces to play with...
>
> Roasting aside, there are often disabled repos on any system that
> normally stay disabled unless the user deliberately enabled them.
> Repos for debugging versions of files, for source RPMs, for testing
> versions, etc.  You just enabled them with a wildcard.
>
> I don't envy your job of unscrambling eggs, now.

Hi Tim,

Actually, you got me to thinking.  There are only
three programs I watch on the testing repo:
Firefox, Thunderbird, and the bug riddled Wine.

At one time I had qemu-kvm too for some bug
fixes, but they are now in the standard repo
and the testing qemu is a bit buggy.

So I did a
    # dnf list installed | grep @updates-testing
and found some interesting stuff I thought
I had removed.  Also there was something weird
entangled with two different versions of Wine.

So anything I knew I did not want, I removed.  With
other things, I dnf downgraded.  So I removed
`-—enablerepo=*` from my cheat sheet.
I thought I had removed abiword years ago and
do not remember ever adding goffice.  They are
gone now.  A bunch of others are gone too.

Things went smoothly after that.

I am thinking of doing a full `dnf list installed`
and seeing what else I have hanging around
that I thought I had removed or do not want
anymore.

Thank you!

-T

[George N. White III]

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 1:55 AM ToddAndMargo via users <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> [...]
> So anything I knew I did not want, I removed.  With
> other things, I dnf downgraded.  So I removed
> `-—enablerepo=*` from my cheat sheet.
> I thought I had removed abiword years ago and
> do not remember ever adding goffice.  They are
> gone now.  A bunch of others are gone too.
>
> Things went smoothly after that.

Good to see that.
> I am thinking of doing a full `dnf list installed`
> and seeing what else I have hanging around
> that I thought I had removed or do not want
> anymore.

I use some software that is distributed as mostly statically
compiled binaries and come with source.  C++ seems to
be dynamically linked.  Sometimes I have R packages that
came from some github project and aren't in the "official"
repos.

After upgrades there are often packages from older Fedora
versions and no longer used by Fedora, but may still be used
by copr packages or locally compiled stuff.  Usually there are
"new and improved" replacements available in current Fedora
repos.   Cleanup involves research to find replacements and
often some tweaks to source code.  With R, packages now
bundle sources for libraries that have been removed from
some distro repositories (or the Msys2 system R uses on
Windows).   There is a growing problem with R and Python
users running older distros and getting different results or
missing capabilities present in newer distros.

[Tim]

On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 21:55 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Actually, you got me to thinking.  There are only
> three programs I watch on the testing repo:
> Firefox, Thunderbird, and the bug riddled Wine.

You should be able to adjust things so that those few packages are
allowed to update from that repo, and the rest ignored.  But a general
update ought to update them without a lot of other things coming along
for the ride.