For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
Take note of the page source. It says "en", so it's supposed to be in English.
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
That site displays fine in German for me in Firefox 1.5 Beta 2 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b5) Gecko/20051003 Firefox/1.4.1 after setting the preferred language to German ;-) Had to restart Firefox after making the change though.
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
There's a simpler way that worked for me. Just goto http://www2.uibk.ac.at/index_de.pl
taharka wrote:
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
That site displays fine in German for me in Firefox 1.5 Beta 2 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8b5) Gecko/20051003 Firefox/1.4.1 after setting the preferred language to German ;-) Had to restart Firefox after making the change though.
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
國產 Wei-Yee Chan (Made in Chinar) wrote:
There's a simpler way that worked for me. Just goto http://www2.uibk.ac.at/index_de.pl
That's not the point. The site that the OP quoted is able to display in German. BTW, would you please refrain from top posting in your responses? Makes the threads hell to follow!!
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
I'm very certain that what I'm reading is German. U don't have to change any language settings.
Just visit: http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/index.html.de
taharka wrote:
That's not the point. The site that the OP quoted is able to display in German. BTW, would you please refrain from top posting in your responses? Makes the threads hell to follow!!
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
國產 Wei-Yee Chan (Made in Chinar) wrote:
I'm very certain that what I'm reading is German. U don't have to change any language settings.
Just visit: http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/index.html.de
That link does come up in German. However, it's not the link the OP was having the issue with. Firefox has the capability of displaying the original URL in the German language ;-)
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
I do get your point, although initially, I was mistaken about what Harald meant.
What I'd suggested is an alternative solution. If he doesn't need to visit German sites frequently, he wouldn't need to change any of the settings that you'd mentioned. But from the looks of it, oh well, he might as well do just that.
taharka wrote:
That link does come up in German. However, it's not the link the OP was having the issue with. Firefox has the capability of displaying the original URL in the German language ;-)
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
"國產 Wei-Yee Chan (Made in Chinar)":
I'm very certain that what I'm reading is German. U don't have to change any language settings.
Just visit: http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/index.html.de
If you used a URI ending .html.de (like the above), you will get that page directly, bypassing any language negotiation that the server might have offered. Alternatively, if the URI was shortened to not include the country, e.g. http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/index.html, then the server is free to negotiate which language variant it serves you, if they exist.
e.g. It might have index.html.de index.html.en index.html.fr
And you'd get the best match served to you *as* "index.html".
This might be where de-de was falling down - the server looking for something specific, with no obviously equivalent alternative (to it).
Different servers have different negotiation abilities, too. My site suffers because the host still uses Apache 1.3.x. Anybody visiting without their browser configured to accept English, amongst any other languages, gets a 406 error, rather than my English pages anyway. Apache 2 can avoid that annoying problem, by letting the webmaster configure a fallback.
(I use content negotiation for a different purpose than language negotiation.)
Yep. That was why I suggested accessing the web page directly rather than change the settings.
Which state are U in now?
Tim wrote:
If you used a URI ending .html.de (like the above), you will get that page directly, bypassing any language negotiation that the server might have offered. Alternatively, if the URI was shortened to not include the country, e.g. http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/index.html, then the server is free to negotiate which language variant it serves you, if they exist.
e.g. It might have index.html.de index.html.en index.html.fr
And you'd get the best match served to you *as* "index.html".
This might be where de-de was falling down - the server looking for something specific, with no obviously equivalent alternative (to it).
Different servers have different negotiation abilities, too. My site suffers because the host still uses Apache 1.3.x. Anybody visiting without their browser configured to accept English, amongst any other languages, gets a 406 error, rather than my English pages anyway. Apache 2 can avoid that annoying problem, by letting the webmaster configure a fallback.
(I use content negotiation for a different purpose than language negotiation.)
"國產 Wei-Yee Chan (Made in Chinar)":
Yep. That was why I suggested accessing the web page directly rather than change the settings.
Which state are U in now?
The same one I was in before. Or, a state of confusion. Perhaps you're mixing me up with another person? ;-)
Visit http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/index.html.de and you'll be fine.
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
If I set the language to de-de, I get the site in English. If I set the language to just de, I get it in German (after a reload of the page, no need to restart the browser). I'm using firefox-1.0.7-1.1.fc4.
Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
If I set the language to de-de, I get the site in English. If I set the language to just de, I get it in German (after a reload of the page, no need to restart the browser). I'm using firefox-1.0.7-1.1.fc4.
Excellent info, works with Firefox 1.5 Beta 2 also.
taharka
Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
As you can guess I have an english version of firefox installed. Is there a way to change the browser identification string? Or could the problem be located somewhere else?
If I set the language to de-de, I get the site in English. If I set the language to just de, I get it in German (after a reload of the page, no need to restart the browser). I'm using firefox-1.0.7-1.1.fc4.
Thanks, that did the job!
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 18:32 +0200, Harald Grossauer wrote:
For webpages which are available in different languages the preferred languages can be set in Preferences/General/Languages. Unfortunately this does not work for me. Although I have set de-de (German) as prefered language
Do you also have just "de" set? Some sites aren't set up to do language negotiation properly. I'm Australian, and I ended up setting mine thus, to cover all events:
en-AU en-GB en-US en
the page http://www2.uibk.ac.at/fakultaeten/ is always displayed in english. I guess the problem is that the browser identifies itself as Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050922
This shouldn't affect language settings, unless the website uses some very stupid ways of deciding what language pages to give you.
If you've changed your settings after a visit to that site, you may need to clear cookies, force a reload, and/or clear the cache. You probably also need to be at a page that is up for negotiation, not already at a specific language page.
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