3:30 p.m.
Bonsoir,
Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
Thank you to share your experience.
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5:18 p.m.
On 11/05/2017 01:30 PM, François Patte wrote:
Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
It depends on what you're trying to do. I use mediatomb to share media
files via dlna/upnp that my LG bluray player can access.
6:09 p.m.
On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought. Android devices,
SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And knew the
space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options for dedicated
NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps to make
access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for TV shows and
Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download and in the
apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of other stuff.
So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then maintain it. That
wasn't my goal.
I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
Just something to consider.
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6:31 p.m.
On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
> Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
> broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought. Android devices,
SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And knew the
space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options for dedicated
NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps to make
access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for TV shows and
Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download and in the
apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of other stuff.
So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then maintain it. That
wasn't my goal.
I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
Just something to consider.
That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
not using Plex.
poc
6:43 p.m.
On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
>> Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
>> broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
>
> In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought. Android devices,
> SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And knew the
> space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options for dedicated
> NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps to make
> access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for TV shows
and
> Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download and in the
> apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of other stuff.
> So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then maintain it.
That
> wasn't my goal.
>
> I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
>
> Just something to consider.
That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
not using Plex.
No, it was US$400 including 2-3TB drives. I got a Synology. I thought about a
higher end model but I didn't have a need for transcoding.
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2:36 a.m.
On 06/11/2017 11:43, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
>>> Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
>>> broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
>> In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought. Android
devices,
>> SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And knew
the
>> space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options for
dedicated
>> NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps to
make
>> access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for TV shows
and
>> Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download and in
the
>> apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of other
stuff.
>> So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then maintain it.
That
>> wasn't my goal.
>>
>> I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
>>
>> Just something to consider.
> That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
> I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
> around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
> thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
> that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
> streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
>
> https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
>
> which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
> not using Plex.
No, it was US$400 including 2-3TB drives. I got a Synology. I thought about a
higher end model but I didn't have a need for transcoding.
I bought a NAS dual bay device with 2 1TB drives that have been
configured in Raid 0 mode for around $250 - $300 Australian. I am using
the device as a storage device and for streaming videos to this Fedora
machine and a Raspberry PI media player using Kodi. I have the device
mounted as both nfs and ntfs, but like mentioned in another thread the
nfs mount point doesn't work anymore. I'll need to do some checking to
try to determine why. i have had some issues with the ntfs mount point
where I delete files under fedora, which fedora recognizes as gone, but
windows and kodi still see the files.
regards,
Steve
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5:59 a.m.
On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 19:36 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 06/11/2017 11:43, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
> > > > broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
> > >
> > > In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought.
Android devices,
> > > SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And
knew the
> > > space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options for
dedicated
> > > NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps
to make
> > > access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for
TV shows and
> > > Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download
and in the
> > > apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of
other stuff.
> > > So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then
maintain it. That
> > > wasn't my goal.
> > >
> > > I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
> > >
> > > Just something to consider.
> >
> > That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
> > I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
> > around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
> > thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
> > that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
> > streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
> >
> > https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
> >
> > which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
> > not using Plex.
>
> No, it was US$400 including 2-3TB drives. I got a Synology. I thought about a
> higher end model but I didn't have a need for transcoding.
>
I bought a NAS dual bay device with 2 1TB drives that have been
configured in Raid 0 mode for around $250 - $300 Australian. I am using
the device as a storage device and for streaming videos to this Fedora
machine and a Raspberry PI media player using Kodi. I have the device
mounted as both nfs and ntfs, but like mentioned in another thread the
nfs mount point doesn't work anymore. I'll need to do some checking to
try to determine why. i have had some issues with the ntfs mount point
where I delete files under fedora, which fedora recognizes as gone, but
windows and kodi still see the files.
Surely you mean NFS and Samba, or are you talking about two partitions?
poc
2:25 p.m.
On 06/11/2017 22:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 19:36 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 06/11/2017 11:43, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>> On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
>>>>> broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
>>>> In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought.
Android devices,
>>>> SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And
knew the
>>>> space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options
for dedicated
>>>> NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps
to make
>>>> access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for
TV shows and
>>>> Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download
and in the
>>>> apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of
other stuff.
>>>> So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then
maintain it. That
>>>> wasn't my goal.
>>>>
>>>> I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
>>>>
>>>> Just something to consider.
>>> That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
>>> I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
>>> around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
>>> thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
>>> that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
>>> streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
>>>
>>> https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
>>>
>>> which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
>>> not using Plex.
>> No, it was US$400 including 2-3TB drives. I got a Synology. I thought about a
>> higher end model but I didn't have a need for transcoding.
>>
> I bought a NAS dual bay device with 2 1TB drives that have been
> configured in Raid 0 mode for around $250 - $300 Australian. I am using
> the device as a storage device and for streaming videos to this Fedora
> machine and a Raspberry PI media player using Kodi. I have the device
> mounted as both nfs and ntfs, but like mentioned in another thread the
> nfs mount point doesn't work anymore. I'll need to do some checking to
> try to determine why. i have had some issues with the ntfs mount point
> where I delete files under fedora, which fedora recognizes as gone, but
> windows and kodi still see the files.
Surely you mean NFS and Samba, or are you talking about two partitions?
Sorry, yes, the 2nd mount point is actually cifs, and like indicated in
another thread, this device doesn't work with the default SMB3.0 that
Fedora has moved to. Without the vers=1.0 parameter the mount command
says the drive is down. The documentation for mount.cifs for the vers
option says that smbV3.0 was introduced with Windows 8 and windows
server 2012, but I think that is an over- simplification of the issue. I
am accessing the same mount point under Windows 10 without requiring any
special configuration, which from the man documentation either Windows
10 is accessing the mount point with smbV3.0 or it is auto falling back
to smbV1.0 for the device, hence, if it is auto falling back then Fedora
can as well so why do we need to explicitly specify to do so?
regards,
Steve
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5:21 p.m.
On Tue, 2017-11-07 at 07:25 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
I
am accessing the same mount point under Windows 10 without requiring any
special configuration, which from the man documentation either Windows
10 is accessing the mount point with smbV3.0 or it is auto falling back
to smbV1.0 for the device, hence, if it is auto falling back then Fedora
can as well so why do we need to explicitly specify to do so?
Presumably because SMBv1 has a huge security hole, as discussed fairly
recently.
poc
7:23 p.m.
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 07:25:12AM +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
On 06/11/2017 22:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 19:36 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>On 06/11/2017 11:43, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>>>On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>>>>>On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
>>>>>>Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking
and
>>>>>>broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
>>>>>In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought.
Android devices,
>>>>>SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access.
And knew the
>>>>>space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good
options for dedicated
>>>>>NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple
apps to make
>>>>>access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails
for TV shows and
>>>>>Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will
download and in the
>>>>>apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch
of other stuff.
>>>>>So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then
maintain it. That
>>>>>wasn't my goal.
>>>>>
>>>>>I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of
RAID.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just something to consider.
>>>>That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
>>>>I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
>>>>around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
>>>>thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
>>>>that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
>>>>streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
>>>>
>>>>https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
>>>>
>>>>which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
>>>>not using Plex.
>>>No, it was US$400 including 2-3TB drives. I got a Synology. I thought about
a
>>>higher end model but I didn't have a need for transcoding.
>>>
>>I bought a NAS dual bay device with 2 1TB drives that have been
>>configured in Raid 0 mode for around $250 - $300 Australian. I am using
>>the device as a storage device and for streaming videos to this Fedora
>>machine and a Raspberry PI media player using Kodi. I have the device
>>mounted as both nfs and ntfs, but like mentioned in another thread the
>>nfs mount point doesn't work anymore. I'll need to do some checking to
>>try to determine why. i have had some issues with the ntfs mount point
>>where I delete files under fedora, which fedora recognizes as gone, but
>>windows and kodi still see the files.
>Surely you mean NFS and Samba, or are you talking about two partitions?
Sorry, yes, the 2nd mount point is actually cifs, and like indicated
in another thread, this device doesn't work with the default SMB3.0
that Fedora has moved to. Without the vers=1.0 parameter the mount
command says the drive is down. The documentation for mount.cifs for
the vers option says that smbV3.0 was introduced with Windows 8 and
windows server 2012, but I think that is an over- simplification of
the issue. I am accessing the same mount point under Windows 10
without requiring any special configuration, which from the man
documentation either Windows 10 is accessing the mount point with
smbV3.0 or it is auto falling back to smbV1.0 for the device, hence,
if it is auto falling back then Fedora can as well so why do we need
to explicitly specify to do so?
I've got a low-end Synology box in RAID-1, have configured it to
require SMB3, and configured /etc/fstab entries for the synology mounts
to use only SMB3, and it all works like a treat.
I'm running this on Centos-7, which is a sort-of cousin to Fedora,
so its hard to imagine that Fedora can't do SMB3 too.
Fred
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4:58 a.m.
Allegedly, on or about 6 November 2017, Stephen Morris sent:
I have the device mounted as both nfs and ntfs, but like mentioned
in
another thread the nfs mount point doesn't work anymore.
Quick check-list of things to check with NFS:
Both sides of the network have the same time on their clocks.
All appropriate NFS services running on the server.
Firewalls (server and client).
Same USER IDs on server and client if you're owning own files.
Correct use of no_squash/squash.
NFS versions.
If your NAS is one that auto-updates itself, then you may need to
recheck things from time to time. Simplistic NAS devices (e.g. cloud
thingummies) sold for general public may do a near factory default
after an update, and NFS is an oddity to them (seems to be little
thought given to it). I found it off by default on at least one NAS.
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5:57 a.m.
On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:43 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 11/06/17 08:31, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-11-06 at 08:09 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 11/06/17 05:30, François Patte wrote:
> > > Does anyone have some experience in building a NAS --- stocking and
> > > broadcasting multimedia stuff on home network --- using fedora?
> >
> > In the past, yes. But then more, and varied, devices were bought. Android
devices,
> > SmartTV, etc. Then friends learned what I had and asked for access. And knew
the
> > space needed to be expanded. Looking around I found very good options for
dedicated
> > NAS at low prices. Included in the offerings were Android and Apple apps to
make
> > access easy with a nice end user experience. Things like thumbnails for TV
shows and
> > Movies, the ability to mark them watched. Also, the system will download and
in the
> > apps display descriptions of the show/episode or movie. And a bunch of other
stuff.
> > So, for me, I didn't see the need to reinvent the wheel and then maintain
it. That
> > wasn't my goal.
> >
> > I spend less than US$ 400 for a 2 bay unit to take advantage of RAID.
> >
> > Just something to consider.
>
> That would be the cost *without* the disk drives, right? All the same,
> I'm broadly on the same page. Unless the OP has a suitable box lying
> around, it's reasonable to get an off-the-shelf NAS for this kind of
> thing. Just be aware that most of the cheaper units have anemic CPUs
> that may not be up to transcoding high-quality video for multiple
> streaming users. There's a Plex guide here:
>
> https://support.plex.tv/hc/en-us/articles/201373793
>
> which should give an idea of the kind of thing to look out for, even if
> not using Plex.
No, it was US$400 including 2-3TB drives. I got a Synology. I thought about a
higher end model but I didn't have a need for transcoding.
That's about what I paid for my Iomega with 2x1TB Seagate drives about
8 years ago. I since have had to replace both drives with WD units as
they failed, luckily not at the same time so RAID-0 saved me. I did
look at getting a new NAS but wasn't convinced the benefit would be
worth the cost. I finally figured I didn't actually need RAID for the
media (as it all has alternative sources), just for the data backup, so
I got a new drive for my PC, moved the media onto it, and as a bonus
configured my old PC's drive for my Windows VM, which I can also now
dual-boot if necessary. But everyone's requirements are different.
poc
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