Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used? I prefer installing via CUPS but find no driver in the HL2300 series. Brother apparently has none that I can find.
It prints from our wireless LAN using the CUPS driver for the HL-2170W but I am not certain that is the best choice. This is a Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE updated computer if that matters.
Any suggestions appreciated,
Bob
On 2/4/15 9:55, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used? I prefer installing via CUPS but find no driver in the HL2300 series. Brother apparently has none that I can find.
It prints from our wireless LAN using the CUPS driver for the HL-2170W but I am not certain that is the best choice. This is a Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE updated computer if that matters.
Any suggestions appreciated,
Bob
I actually downloaded an installer for my 5450DN from Brother's web site. It's just a shell script, that downloads and installs a couple of RPM's, and sets up the CUPS device.
They don't have anything like that for the 2170 too?
- Derrik
On 04.02.2015 16:07, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On 2/4/15 9:55, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used? I prefer installing via CUPS but find no driver in the HL2300 series. Brother apparently has none that I can find.
It prints from our wireless LAN using the CUPS driver for the HL-2170W but I am not certain that is the best choice. This is a Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE updated computer if that matters.
Any suggestions appreciated,
Bob
I actually downloaded an installer for my 5450DN from Brother's web site. It's just a shell script, that downloads and installs a couple of RPM's, and sets up the CUPS device.
They don't have anything like that for the 2170 too?
- Derrik
How Hard is it? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HL-L2340DW+Linux+download
On 02/04/15 10:20, poma wrote:
How Hard is it? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HL-L2340DW+Linux+download
Hard enough.
That URL simply shows a Google list of sites, many of them red since I've been there ...
What is your point?
Bob
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 10:35:34AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 10:20, poma wrote:
How Hard is it? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HL-L2340DW+Linux+download
Hard enough.
That URL simply shows a Google list of sites, many of them red since I've been there ...
What is your point?
Bob
if you go to the SECOND link shown on that search page, you'll find yourself at the Brother download page for that printer. select "linux (rpm)", click the SEARCH button, and voila, you're taken to the brother Download page for the two packages you need to install.
On 02/04/15 10:44, Fred Smith wrote:
if you go to the SECOND link shown on that search page, you'll find yourself at the Brother download page for that printer. select "linux (rpm)", click the SEARCH button, and voila, you're taken to the brother Download page for the two packages you need to install.
I've been there and done that, the "manual" tab produces a manual download, the "driver" tab does nothing, apparently they have no driver to offer? I've tried this several times in the last week since receiving the printer and the result is always the same.
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 11:10:03AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 10:44, Fred Smith wrote:
if you go to the SECOND link shown on that search page, you'll find yourself at the Brother download page for that printer. select "linux (rpm)", click the SEARCH button, and voila, you're taken to the brother Download page for the two packages you need to install.
I've been there and done that, the "manual" tab produces a manual download, the "driver" tab does nothing, apparently they have no driver to offer? I've tried this several times in the last week since receiving the printer and the result is always the same.
well. in that case, it may be a good idea to: 1. open a support ticket with Brother, specifically to get their web site's download page fixed; 2. search their site for the driver installer I mentioned in an earlier mail. it is supposed to be able to find and download the drivers for you, when you run it. 3. if one of the more generic drivers for cups on your linux system works, use it. that's what I did for years with my HL2070N.
On 02/04/15 15:18, Fred Smith wrote:
well. in that case, it may be a good idea to:
- open a support ticket with Brother, specifically to get their web site's download page fixed;
- search their site for the driver installer I mentioned in an earlier mail. it is supposed to be able to find and download the drivers for you, when you run it.
- if one of the more generic drivers for cups on your linux system works, use it. that's what I did for years with my HL2070N.
. Yes, I have done as in item 3 above and the printer works wirelessly as expected. I have tried different drivers on the Brother printers I have and they always seem to print, I know that. I was just asking if someone had been through this with this model and wanted to know what they had done. I don't have any problem setting up printers.
In this case basic stuff like the mac address was not specified anywhere, usually it's on a label at least and I needed that to set up a static dhcp address. I eventually got that from a self test page and learned later that it can be read from a one line LCD display included instead of the usual row of lights but doing that involves a lot of not very intuitive button pushing and the printer installation instructions are geared to Windows and an included CD. There is no ethernet port, a negative, USB or wifi only. I rationalized that I will only use the wifi anyway so I can live with that limitation.
I could go on but ...
Thanks,
Bob
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 03:50:42PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 15:18, Fred Smith wrote:
well. in that case, it may be a good idea to:
- open a support ticket with Brother, specifically to get their web site's download page fixed;
- search their site for the driver installer I mentioned in an earlier mail. it is supposed to be able to find and download the drivers for you, when you run it.
- if one of the more generic drivers for cups on your linux system works, use it. that's what I did for years with my HL2070N.
. Yes, I have done as in item 3 above and the printer works wirelessly as expected. I have tried different drivers on the Brother printers I have and they always seem to print, I know that. I was just asking if someone had been through this with this model and wanted to know what they had done. I don't have any problem setting up printers.
Glad to hear it is working for you.
In this case basic stuff like the mac address was not specified
My HL2070N (as well as our DCP-7065DN) has a web page you can access, and you can find the MAC address thre, too. I'd imagine yours does, too.
anywhere, usually it's on a label at least and I needed that to set up a static dhcp address. I eventually got that from a self test page and learned later that it can be read from a one line LCD display included instead of the usual row of lights but doing that involves a lot of not very intuitive button pushing and the printer installation instructions are geared to Windows and an included CD. There is no ethernet port, a negative, USB or wifi only. I rationalized that I will only use the wifi anyway so I can live with that limitation.
Yeah, I'm sure they were saving a few cents on hardware by not inclding wired networking.
I could go on but ...
On 02/05/15 11:42, Fred Smith wrote:
In this case basic stuff like the mac address was not specified
My HL2070N (as well as our DCP-7065DN) has a web page you can access, and you can find the MAC address thre, too. I'd imagine yours does, too.
It had no address as delivered, or if it had one it did not show in the self test page. I wanted the mac address for dhcp assignment via my router. I eventually found that I could set an address manually via the push buttons and the LCD display, once done I had access via the browser and then configuration is simple. The documentation does not make manual configuration easy, it is Windows oriented. I can't fault them for that, it is not sold as Linux compatible, just requires Windows.
On 04.02.2015 16:35, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 10:20, poma wrote:
How Hard is it? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HL-L2340DW+Linux+download
Hard enough.
That URL simply shows a Google list of sites, many of them red since I've been there ...
What is your point?
Bob
What is my point!? Really Bob?
# yum -q install brgenml1lpr-3.1.0-1.i386.rpm brgenml1cupswrapper-3.1.0-1.i386.rpm
==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: brgenml1cupswrapper i386 3.1.0-1 /brgenml1cupswrapper-3.1.0-1.i386 213 k brgenml1lpr i386 3.1.0-1 /brgenml1lpr-3.1.0-1.i386 478 k
Transaction Summary ==================================================================================================== Install 2 Packages
Is this ok [y/d/N]: y lpadmin -p BrGenML1 -E -v usb://... -P /usr/share/ppd/brother/brother-BrGenML1-cups-en.ppd
# lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: ... device for BrGenML1: usb://... ... BrGenML1 accepting requests since ... ... printer BrGenML1 is idle. enabled since ...
On 02/04/15 12:37, poma wrote:
What is my point!? Really Bob?
# yum -q install brgenml1lpr-3.1.0-1.i386.rpm brgenml1cupswrapper-3.1.0-1.i386.rpm
==================================================================================================== Package Arch Version Repository Size ==================================================================================================== Installing: brgenml1cupswrapper i386 3.1.0-1 /brgenml1cupswrapper-3.1.0-1.i386 213 k brgenml1lpr i386 3.1.0-1 /brgenml1lpr-3.1.0-1.i386 478 k
Transaction Summary
Install 2 Packages
Is this ok [y/d/N]: y lpadmin -p BrGenML1 -E -v usb://... -P /usr/share/ppd/brother/brother-BrGenML1-cups-en.ppd
# lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: ... device for BrGenML1: usb://... ... BrGenML1 accepting requests since ... ... printer BrGenML1 is idle. enabled since ...
--
Yes, that line of gibberish shows up like a printer, are you saying I should send documents to it to be printed? I thought it was an aid to finding a driver?
Dunno what to do with it ...
On 04.02.2015 19:18, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Dunno what to do with it ...
Here, Bob just for you. ;) http://www.brother-usa.com/askus/default.aspx?PGID=1&R3ModelID=HLL2340DW
On 02/04/15 13:53, poma wrote:
Here, Bob just for you.;) http://www.brother-usa.com/askus/default.aspx?PGID=1&R3ModelID=HLL2340DW
* *My question was "*Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used?"
We keep getting further from answering that. Last week I began with a phone call to Brother Tech Support where the only answer was in an e-mail follow-up. The guy I was talking to couldn't admit, after going off to investigate, that they had no driver, their response would be by e-mail:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
For current support information in regards to Linux you may visit http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html"
That shows that they offer Linux support for many printers but none in this series.
I really didn't want to repeat everything I've tried over the last week, just wanted to know what someone else did. Apparently I am the only one who bought this printer. I'm not sure I'm happy with it but it is working wirelessly as advertised.
I just have to decide if it's a keeper. In the mean time I've ordered parts to restore the one it was to replace which looks more like a keeper every day.
Thanks to all for the help,
Bob
On 04.02.2015 20:46, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 13:53, poma wrote:
Here, Bob just for you.;) http://www.brother-usa.com/askus/default.aspx?PGID=1&R3ModelID=HLL2340DW
*My question was "*Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used?"
We keep getting further from answering that. Last week I began with a
On this list it happens all the time, including questions and answers. :)
Also this list is not: "Customer Service Center" "CERTIFIED Center of Excellence" :)
phone call to Brother Tech Support where the only answer was in an e-mail follow-up. The guy I was talking to couldn't admit, after going off to investigate, that they had no driver, their response would be by e-mail:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
For current support information in regards to Linux you may visit http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html"
That shows that they offer Linux support for many printers but none in this series.
I really didn't want to repeat everything I've tried over the last week, just wanted to know what someone else did. Apparently I am the only one who bought this printer. I'm not sure I'm happy with it but it is working wirelessly as advertised.
I just have to decide if it's a keeper. In the mean time I've ordered parts to restore the one it was to replace which looks more like a keeper every day.
Thanks to all for the help,
Bob
Why not study the product and inquire *before* purchase? Is the price priority or should it be something "else", it is up to each to decide.
Not that I recommend, but few *details* catches the eye, and it is applicable to any printer of any manufacturer:
- HL-L2340DW: a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Wi Fi Direct b) 1-line LCD display
- HL-L2380DW: a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Ethernet, Wi Fi Direct b) 2.7" Color TouchScreen Display c) Copying and high-quality color scanning
Ref. http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-L2340DW-Printing-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00...
Whether a particular model actually has the Ethernet should always carefully check. Because of the lack of the Ethernet, *any* network-capable printer is just a good joke. Always has to go with the Ethernet, and only then with the WiFi, NFC, etc. In this way, it "should" be possible to access WebUI management without hassle. Is it so with the Brother, do not ask me.
1-line LCD display!? :) Welcome to the year 2015.
Nor I can not comment on what is the *actual* support for "Linux". BTW Linux is just a kernel. :) How many there are technical illiteracy in the world it is actually amazing.
Besides the Brother is neither the first nor the last manufacturer of printers.
On 02/05/15 01:28, poma wrote:
We keep getting further from answering that. Last week I began with a
On this list it happens all the time, including questions and answers.:)
Also this list is not: "Customer Service Center" "CERTIFIED Center of Excellence" :)
. No, as a rule this list is better than any "Customer Service Center!"
phone call to Brother Tech Support where the only answer was in an e-mail follow-up. The guy I was talking to couldn't admit, after going off to investigate, that they had no driver, their response would be by e-mail:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
For current support information in regards to Linux you may visit http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html"
That shows that they offer Linux support for many printers but none in this series.
Why not study the product and inquire*before* purchase? Is the price priority or should it be something "else", it is up to each to decide.
.
I read the spec's carefully and knew what I was buying, it was CHEAP! My HL-2170W needed either Toner, a new toner cartridge, or a drum assembly, I could not determine which without some empirical testing and I had nothing to try to substitute ... I consulted the people I buy toner from, considered prices, and decided the printer Newegg had on sale that morning was worth trying, a whole new set of parts for what it might cost to fix the HL-2170W. Who could turn that down? The lack of an Ethernet port worried me but I bought it anyway and paid for that with my time required to get the damned thing set to where I could access it with the browser.
Not that I recommend, but few*details* catches the eye, and it is applicable to any printer of any manufacturer:
- HL-L2340DW:
a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Wi Fi Direct b) 1-line LCD display
- HL-L2380DW:
a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Ethernet, Wi Fi Direct b) 2.7" Color TouchScreen Display c) Copying and high-quality color scanning
Ref. http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-L2340DW-Printing-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00...
Whether a particular model actually has the Ethernet should always carefully check. Because of the lack of the Ethernet,*any* network-capable printer is just a good joke. Always has to go with the Ethernet, and only then with the WiFi, NFC, etc. In this way, it "should" be possible to access WebUI management without hassle. Is it so with the Brother, do not ask me.
1-line LCD display!?:) Welcome to the year 2015.
. Yes, a tiny one line display with no backlight. I needed a flashlight and a magnifier to read it!
Nor I can not comment on what is the*actual* support for "Linux". BTW Linux is just a kernel.:) How many there are technical illiteracy in the world it is actually amazing.
Besides the Brother is neither the first nor the last manufacturer of printers.
.
My experience with Brother has been generally good. They don't do things to make it difficult to refill their toner cartridges, just pull a plug out and pour in the toner, reset a "flag gear" and it thinks it has a new Brother cartridge.
I have had ink jet printers that required special tools to reset the cartridge, even an HP laser printer that needed a special tool to make a fill hole, etc. So I stick with the one I know.
What happened to service manuals with electronic schematics, etc? There was a time when every "two-way" radio came with complete service information! Who has ever seen such stuff for a computer or it's peripherals?
I guess I expect too much,
Bob
Guys! This started out with a pretty reasonable question about a particular printer 'has anyone else got one working' - seemed a pretty reasonable question to me, I and I would guess lots of other people on this list do not have such a printer - so we didn't reply. But somehow this seems to have developed into a flame war between someone who feels they Must respond and the op. For all our sakes - please chill it!
Sent from my iPhone
On 5 Feb 2015, at 09:07, Bob Goodwin bobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
On 02/05/15 01:28, poma wrote:
We keep getting further from answering that. Last week I began with a
On this list it happens all the time, including questions and answers.:)
Also this list is not: "Customer Service Center" "CERTIFIED Center of Excellence" :)
. No, as a rule this list is better than any "Customer Service Center!"
phone call to Brother Tech Support where the only answer was in an e-mail follow-up. The guy I was talking to couldn't admit, after going off to investigate, that they had no driver, their response would be by e-mail:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
For current support information in regards to Linux you may visit http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html"
That shows that they offer Linux support for many printers but none in this series.
Why not study the product and inquire*before* purchase? Is the price priority or should it be something "else", it is up to each to decide.
.
I read the spec's carefully and knew what I was buying, it was CHEAP! My HL-2170W needed either Toner, a new toner cartridge, or a drum assembly, I could not determine which without some empirical testing and I had nothing to try to substitute ... I consulted the people I buy toner from, considered prices, and decided the printer Newegg had on sale that morning was worth trying, a whole new set of parts for what it might cost to fix the HL-2170W. Who could turn that down? The lack of an Ethernet port worried me but I bought it anyway and paid for that with my time required to get the damned thing set to where I could access it with the browser.
Not that I recommend, but few*details* catches the eye, and it is applicable to any printer of any manufacturer:
- HL-L2340DW:
a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Wi Fi Direct b) 1-line LCD display
- HL-L2380DW:
a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Ethernet, Wi Fi Direct b) 2.7" Color TouchScreen Display c) Copying and high-quality color scanning
Ref. http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-L2340DW-Printing-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00...
Whether a particular model actually has the Ethernet should always carefully check. Because of the lack of the Ethernet,*any* network-capable printer is just a good joke. Always has to go with the Ethernet, and only then with the WiFi, NFC, etc. In this way, it "should" be possible to access WebUI management without hassle. Is it so with the Brother, do not ask me.
1-line LCD display!?:) Welcome to the year 2015.
. Yes, a tiny one line display with no backlight. I needed a flashlight and a magnifier to read it!
Nor I can not comment on what is the*actual* support for "Linux". BTW Linux is just a kernel.:) How many there are technical illiteracy in the world it is actually amazing.
Besides the Brother is neither the first nor the last manufacturer of printers.
.
My experience with Brother has been generally good. They don't do things to make it difficult to refill their toner cartridges, just pull a plug out and pour in the toner, reset a "flag gear" and it thinks it has a new Brother cartridge.
I have had ink jet printers that required special tools to reset the cartridge, even an HP laser printer that needed a special tool to make a fill hole, etc. So I stick with the one I know.
What happened to service manuals with electronic schematics, etc? There was a time when every "two-way" radio came with complete service information! Who has ever seen such stuff for a computer or it's peripherals?
I guess I expect too much,
Bob
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On 05.02.2015 10:25, Ntlworld wrote:
Guys! This started out with a pretty reasonable question about a particular printer 'has anyone else got one working' - seemed a pretty reasonable question to me, I and I would guess lots of other people on this list do not have such a printer - so we didn't reply. But somehow this seems to have developed into a flame war between someone who feels they Must respond and the op. For all our sakes - please chill it!
No matter how you call it, in the discussions is always something good to learn. Especially not to top-post! :)
Sent from my iPhone
Likewise, any advertising on this list is an expression of distaste and insolence.
So much for your criticism.
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 04:07 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
What happened to service manuals with electronic schematics, etc? There was a time when every "two-way" radio came with complete service information! Who has ever seen such stuff for a computer or it's peripherals?
The Amiga computer came with schematics, perhaps not utterly complete, but enough that I resurrected one that had a blown gate on a parallel port, buried in some chip in the middle of the board.
On 05.02.2015 10:07, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/05/15 01:28, poma wrote:
We keep getting further from answering that. Last week I began with a
On this list it happens all the time, including questions and answers.:)
Also this list is not: "Customer Service Center" "CERTIFIED Center of Excellence" :)
. No, as a rule this list is better than any "Customer Service Center!"
phone call to Brother Tech Support where the only answer was in an e-mail follow-up. The guy I was talking to couldn't admit, after going off to investigate, that they had no driver, their response would be by e-mail:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
For current support information in regards to Linux you may visit http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/index.html"
That shows that they offer Linux support for many printers but none in this series.
Why not study the product and inquire*before* purchase? Is the price priority or should it be something "else", it is up to each to decide.
.
I read the spec's carefully and knew what I was buying, it was CHEAP! My HL-2170W needed either Toner, a new toner cartridge, or a drum assembly, I could not determine which without some empirical testing and I had nothing to try to substitute ... I consulted the people I buy toner from, considered prices, and decided the printer Newegg had on sale that morning was worth trying, a whole new set of parts for what it might cost to fix the HL-2170W. Who could turn that down? The lack of an Ethernet port worried me but I bought it anyway and paid for that with my time required to get the damned thing set to where I could access it with the browser.
Not that I recommend, but few*details* catches the eye, and it is applicable to any printer of any manufacturer:
- HL-L2340DW:
a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Wi Fi Direct b) 1-line LCD display
- HL-L2380DW:
a) Wireless 802.11b/g/n, Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Ethernet, Wi Fi Direct b) 2.7" Color TouchScreen Display c) Copying and high-quality color scanning
Ref. http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-L2340DW-Printing-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00...
Whether a particular model actually has the Ethernet should always carefully check. Because of the lack of the Ethernet,*any* network-capable printer is just a good joke. Always has to go with the Ethernet, and only then with the WiFi, NFC, etc. In this way, it "should" be possible to access WebUI management without hassle. Is it so with the Brother, do not ask me.
1-line LCD display!?:) Welcome to the year 2015.
. Yes, a tiny one line display with no backlight. I needed a flashlight and a magnifier to read it!
Nor I can not comment on what is the*actual* support for "Linux". BTW Linux is just a kernel.:) How many there are technical illiteracy in the world it is actually amazing.
Besides the Brother is neither the first nor the last manufacturer of printers.
.
My experience with Brother has been generally good. They don't do things to make it difficult to refill their toner cartridges, just pull a plug out and pour in the toner, reset a "flag gear" and it thinks it has a new Brother cartridge.
Just because it is cheaper do not bring your health in question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toner#Health_risks ... An unpublished study at the University of Rostock in Germany is reported to have found that the microscopic particles in toner are carcinogenic, similar to asbestos. Several technicians who had been working with printers and copiers on a daily basis were observed for several years. They showed increased lung problems.[4]
Therefore please do not refill the cartridge yourself, for your own health.
I have had ink jet printers that required special tools to reset the cartridge, even an HP laser printer that needed a special tool to make a fill hole, etc. So I stick with the one I know.
What happened to service manuals with electronic schematics, etc? There was a time when every "two-way" radio came with complete service information! Who has ever seen such stuff for a computer or it's peripherals?
I guess I expect too much,
Bob
On 02/05/15 10:07, poma wrote:
Just because it is cheaper do not bring your health in question.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toner#Health_risks ... An unpublished study at the University of Rostock in Germany is reported to have found that the microscopic particles in toner are carcinogenic, similar to asbestos. Several technicians who had been working with printers and copiers on a daily basis were observed for several years. They showed increased lung problems.[4]
Therefore please do not refill the cartridge yourself, for your own health.
. Gosh, do you think it may affect my health when I get old? Now toner is hazardous, that will probably lead to a tax on toner cartridges, any excuse for a new tax seems to work.
Seriously, there is some interesting information in that article, different particle sizes and melting points that probably explain some of the differences in toner selection for each model. Whenever I asked if I couldn't use the toner on hand in a different machine the answer has been no.
Refilling toner cartridges involves less spillage than I had with ink. I am not aware of any that finds it's way into my environment, you just have to be careful and neat. It is not a problem.
Allegedly, on or about 05 February 2015, poma sent:
An unpublished study at the University of Rostock in Germany is reported to have found that the microscopic particles in toner are carcinogenic, similar to asbestos. Several technicians who had been working with printers and copiers on a daily basis were observed for several years. They showed increased lung problems.[4]
Therefore please do not refill the cartridge yourself, for your own health.
Quite old news. Way back in the photocopier days, there were some that you refilled by pouring powder into a hopper. There were health warnings about it, and people did all sorts of *carcinogenic* things, which were supposedly okay if you washed your hands before eating. :-\
On 06.02.2015 01:39, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 05 February 2015, poma sent:
An unpublished study at the University of Rostock in Germany is reported to have found that the microscopic particles in toner are carcinogenic, similar to asbestos. Several technicians who had been working with printers and copiers on a daily basis were observed for several years. They showed increased lung problems.[4]
Therefore please do not refill the cartridge yourself, for your own health.
Quite old news. Way back in the photocopier days, there were some that you refilled by pouring powder into a hopper. There were health warnings about it, and people did all sorts of *carcinogenic* things, which were supposedly okay if you washed your hands before eating. :-\
Just because it's old news is even worse because it means that people do not care for their own health, and when shit happens then everyone running to the doctor to save their asses. I can bet that hand washing as recommended after poop ain't enough in the case of handling the toner. Toner consists of microscopic particles, if you can grasp that meaning.
Tim:
Quite old news. Way back in the photocopier days, there were some that you refilled by pouring powder into a hopper. There were health warnings about it, and people did all sorts of *carcinogenic* things, which were supposedly okay if you washed your hands before eating. :-\
poma:
Just because it's old news is even worse because it means that people do not care for their own health, and when shit happens then everyone running to the doctor to save their asses. I can bet that hand washing as recommended after poop ain't enough in the case of handling the toner. Toner consists of microscopic particles, if you can grasp that meaning.
I think you missed the ironic smiley at the end. As if merely washing your hands magically solved the problems of handling hazardous materials... I had to laugh at a spool of 60/40 electronics solder, I have, that warns you to wash your hands after using it before eating or smoking. Something tells me that smoking is going to be far worse than the tiny amount of lead wiped across your fingertips. And I seriously doubt many people wash their hands well enough to wipe off half the stuff they get on their fingers at work.
And even if something wasn't directly poisonous material, inhaling it and clogging up your lungs with it just has to be bad for you.
Allegedly, on or about 05 February 2015, poma sent:
Oh, and photocopiers came with all sorts of warnings, too (either from the manufacturer, or union health and safety policies), about running them in well ventilated areas, because the ozone generated was bad for your health, never mind that awful hot plastic smell which can't be good for you, either (you're getting internally coated with plastic).
Laser printers are virtually the same as photocopies, in these regards.
On 05.02.2015 10:07, Bob Goodwin wrote:
My experience with Brother has been generally good. They don't do things to make it difficult to refill their toner cartridges, just pull a plug out and pour in the toner, reset a "flag gear" and it thinks it has a new Brother cartridge.
I see why you're thrilled with the Brother printer.
Best "cheap and cheerful" mono http://urefilltoner.co.uk/test-lab-printer-reviews.html
And you also saving walruses, arctic hares, bearded seals, humpback whales and arctic foxes! http://urefilltoner.co.uk/environment/carbon-footprint.html
On 02/06/15 03:42, poma wrote:
On 05.02.2015 10:07, Bob Goodwin wrote:
My experience with Brother has been generally good. They don't do things to make it difficult to refill their toner cartridges, just pull a plug out and pour in the toner, reset a "flag gear" and it thinks it has a new Brother cartridge.
I see why you're thrilled with the Brother printer. And you're also saving walruses, arctic hares, bearded seals, humpback whales and arctic foxes! http://urefilltoner.co.uk/test-lab-printer-reviews.html
Certainly, I have always been fond of walruses ...
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things: Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax-- Of cabbages--and kings-- And why the sea is boiling hot-- And whether pigs have wings."
Yeah when I get where I'm going There'll be only happy tears I will shed the sins and struggles I have carried all these years And I'll leave my heart wide open I will love and have no fear Yeah when I get where I'm going Don't cry for me down here
I'm gonna walk with my grand daddy And he'll match me step for step And I'll tell him how I missed him Every minute since he left Then I'll hug his neck
Yeah when I get where I'm going
B.P.
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
I have a HL5450DN, and it works great on my Fedora system. I did have to run the script that does all the work to get it set up correctly, but even the Duplexer works well.
It is a bit pricier than the other models, but it is a nice printer.
- Derrik
On 02/05/15 23:27, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
I have a HL5450DN, and it works great on my Fedora system. I did have to run the script that does all the work to get it set up correctly, but even the Duplexer works well.
It is a bit pricier than the other models, but it is a nice printer.
- Derrik
Yes, that would work for me but I would rather buy one with wireless built in; there is the HL-5470DW for a few dollars more that appears to be worth considering. Also an Ethernet to wireless adapter is a good way to go and convenient but adds extra equipment.
Thanks,
Bob
On 06.02.2015 05:27, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
I have a HL5450DN, and it works great on my Fedora system. I did have to run the script that does all the work to get it set up correctly, but even the Duplexer works well.
It is a bit pricier than the other models, but it is a nice printer.
- Derrik
How do you print in color?
On 2/6/15 5:31, poma wrote:
On 06.02.2015 05:27, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
I have a HL5450DN, and it works great on my Fedora system. I did have to run the script that does all the work to get it set up correctly, but even the Duplexer works well.
It is a bit pricier than the other models, but it is a nice printer.
- Derrik
How do you print in color?
I don't. The L2340DW is color? I missed that detail.
Black and White servers me fine, and the toner costs are a LOT lower.
- Derrik
On 06.02.2015 13:50, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On 2/6/15 5:31, poma wrote:
On 06.02.2015 05:27, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:46 -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
"Description of Solution 200000004054 *
Currently, Linux support is not available for your Brother machine.
I have a HL5450DN, and it works great on my Fedora system. I did have to run the script that does all the work to get it set up correctly, but even the Duplexer works well.
It is a bit pricier than the other models, but it is a nice printer.
- Derrik
How do you print in color?
I don't. The L2340DW is color? I missed that detail.
As far as printing in color, where did you read that I referred to the certain printer? :)
Black and White servers me fine, and the toner costs are a LOT lower.
Black and White, toner!? :)
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 23:59 +0100, poma wrote:
How do you print in color?
I don't. The L2340DW is color? I missed that detail.
As far as printing in color, where did you read that I referred to the certain printer? :)
You said that like it was a color printer. If no one is talking about a color printer, then whats the point in asking?
Black and White servers me fine, and the toner costs are a LOT lower.
Black and White, toner!? :)
Obviously, I meant black and white printing with a BLACK toner ( and white paper ).
Of course, I'm sure some smart ass will find white toner someplace ...
- Derrik
On 07.02.2015 04:51, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 23:59 +0100, poma wrote:
How do you print in color?
I don't. The L2340DW is color? I missed that detail.
As far as printing in color, where did you read that I referred to the certain printer? :)
You said that like it was a color printer. If no one is talking about a color printer, then whats the point in asking?
Perhaps for *you* there is no point in asking, however question is quite clear. Are you saying that you never print in color or you never need to print in color!? :)
Black and White servers me fine, and the toner costs are a LOT lower.
Black and White, toner!? :)
Obviously, I meant black and white printing with a BLACK toner ( and white paper ).
Of course, I'm sure some smart ass will find white toner someplace ...
- Derrik
You've never heard of White Toner LED Transfer Printer!? :) http://goo.gl/2zOYd4 http://goo.gl/QjKNqa
On Sat, 2015-02-07 at 06:00 +0100, poma wrote:
On 07.02.2015 04:51, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 23:59 +0100, poma wrote:
How do you print in color?
I don't. The L2340DW is color? I missed that detail.
As far as printing in color, where did you read that I referred to the certain printer? :)
You said that like it was a color printer. If no one is talking about a color printer, then whats the point in asking?
Perhaps for *you* there is no point in asking, however question is quite clear. Are you saying that you never print in color or you never need to print in color!? :)
I have no need to print in color. A black toner only laser printer serves my printing needs fine. Some times I do want pictures printed, but it's cheap enough to take them to Walgreens or whatever and get them printed there for the limited number of times I need them.
I do sometimes print from Legacy UNIX systems, so having a good postscript engine is important, the 5450 has that. I also like the duplexer as I print out a fair bit of documentation ( usually in PDF format ), and having two sided printouts works great with a three hole punch and three ring binder.
I also do not need wireless, Ethernet is fine.
I had a color HP laser printer, and the toner was SO expensive, there were 4 of them, and if any one ran out, it would quit printing until it was replaced. The cost of one of them was about the same as the hi-capacity toner for the 5450, but only gave me about 1/3 the number of pages. And I had a lot of problems with the Legacy UNIX systems as HP's postscript engine didn't exist and the Epson emulation was total crapola.
Of course, I'm sure some smart ass will find white toner someplace ...
You've never heard of White Toner LED Transfer Printer!? :) http://goo.gl/2zOYd4 http://goo.gl/QjKNqa
No, I've not heard of that.
- Derrik
On 07.02.2015 06:26, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Sat, 2015-02-07 at 06:00 +0100, poma wrote:
On 07.02.2015 04:51, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote:
On Fri, 2015-02-06 at 23:59 +0100, poma wrote:
How do you print in color?
I don't. The L2340DW is color? I missed that detail.
As far as printing in color, where did you read that I referred to the certain printer? :)
You said that like it was a color printer. If no one is talking about a color printer, then whats the point in asking?
Perhaps for *you* there is no point in asking, however question is quite clear. Are you saying that you never print in color or you never need to print in color!? :)
I have no need to print in color. A black toner only laser printer serves my printing needs fine. Some times I do want pictures printed, but it's cheap enough to take them to Walgreens or whatever and get them printed there for the limited number of times I need them.
I do sometimes print from Legacy UNIX systems, so having a good postscript engine is important, the 5450 has that. I also like the duplexer as I print out a fair bit of documentation ( usually in PDF format ), and having two sided printouts works great with a three hole punch and three ring binder.
I also do not need wireless, Ethernet is fine.
I had a color HP laser printer, and the toner was SO expensive, there were 4 of them, and if any one ran out, it would quit printing until it was replaced. The cost of one of them was about the same as the hi-capacity toner for the 5450, but only gave me about 1/3 the number of pages. And I had a lot of problems with the Legacy UNIX systems as HP's postscript engine didn't exist and the Epson emulation was total crapola.
Now it is a fair reply. ;)
Besides one can always find an affordable device with the required features, and toner station/shop can re-fill for you. See how you're comfortable with your "Brother", which certainly has something to offer.
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 09:55:13AM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used? I prefer installing via CUPS but find no driver in the HL2300 series. Brother apparently has none that I can find.
It prints from our wireless LAN using the CUPS driver for the HL-2170W but I am not certain that is the best choice. This is a Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE updated computer if that matters.
Any suggestions appreciated,
Bob
I've been using the brother driver installer linux-printer-installer-2.0.0-1 for my brother printers and it works well. it seems to do all the various tweaks you'd otherwise need to do by hand.
If there IS a Brother driver for that printer, it should find it for you. I can't give you an exact URL for that program, but you should be able to find it on their web site with a little digging.
On 02/04/15 10:39, Fred Smith wrote:
I've been using the brother driver installer linux-printer-installer-2.0.0-1 for my brother printers and it works well. it seems to do all the various tweaks you'd otherwise need to do by hand.
If there IS a Brother driver for that printer, it should find it for you. I can't give you an exact URL for that program, but you should be able to find it on their web site with a little digging.
.
Ok, I found two rpm's there that appeared as though they might be applicable. I still have no HL-L2340DW driver but it has added something to the CUPS printer list which needs further explanation?
Showing 4 of 4 printers.
▼ Queue Name ▼ http://localhost:631/printers/?QUERY=&WHICH_JOBS=&FIRST=%7BFIRST%7D&ORDER=dec Description Location Make and Model Status BrGenML1 http://localhost:631/printers/BrGenML1 BrGenML1 Brother BrGenML1 for CUPS Idle HL-2170W http://localhost:631/printers/HL-2170W HL-2170W Asylum Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish." HL-5140 http://localhost:631/printers/HL-5140 HL-5140 Asylum Brother HL-5140 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.10 Idle HL-L2340DW http://localhost:631/printers/HL-L2340DW HL-L2340DW Asylum Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."
I deleted the printer in question and re-installed it using the driver from the printer it should replace as:
socket://192.168.1.6:9100 Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended)
It continues to work as before. It seems to print well enough, not sure it will print both sides with this driver but that's a minor point. I would still prefer whatever driver they suggest and there is none.
Bob
hello Bob.
On 02/04/2015 08:55 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Has anyone installed an HL-L2340DW printer? If so I am curious to know what driver you used? I prefer installing via CUPS but find no driver in the HL2300 series. Brother apparently has none that I can find.
It prints from our wireless LAN using the CUPS driver for the HL-2170W but I am not certain that is the best choice. This is a Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE updated computer if that matters.
Any suggestions appreciated,
i have installed brother drivers for cups on other systems and have found this may work for you.
from brother site;
http://support.brother.com/g/b/countrytop.aspx?c=us&lang=en
selecting downloads, goes to;
http://support.brother.com/g/b/productsearch.aspx?c=us&lang=en&conte...
with "search by model name" = HL-L2340DW, you will get;
http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadtop.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hl...
selecting (x) linux and (x) linux (rpm) and clicking [search], you get;
http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h...
selecting 'generic cupswrappeer printer driver (rpm package)
leads to;
http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hl...
where you see;
[2] Read before downloading.
and click on;
Notes before downloading
to see;
Before the Installation
center click on above leads to:
http://support.brother.com/g/s/id/linux/en/before.html?c=us&lang=en&...
to see more info about installing.
after reading, close and return to previous page continue reading;
Only installation via the command line interface (terminal) is supported. Only English versions of drivers are available. The information on the websites does not guarantee the operation of Brother Linux drivers in all users' operating environments. Connecting more than one machine with the same model number is not supported.
read the;
[3] eula
clicking the agree, give you;
http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=...
which is 'how to install page', and if using firefox, you get a window to save;
brgenml1cupswrapper-3.1.0-1.i386.rpm
_now_, if you want to eliminate all the crap i went thru to show you how i found it, just click the last url. ((GBWG))
hth.
*OOOOPPPPSSS* see below
On 02/04/2015 10:35 AM, g wrote:
hello Bob.
<<>>
selecting (x) linux and (x) linux (rpm) and clicking [search], you get;
*BELOW*
in playing with cups and installing the cups wrapper, i found that you must also install the 'generic lpr printer driver'
http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadlist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=h...
selecting 'generic cupswrappeer printer driver (rpm package)
so pull both.
whether or not it works, elephrino, i do not have the printer to test with, but yum sure wants both packages.
On 02/04/15 12:07, g wrote:
so pull both.
whether or not it works, elephrino, i do not have the printer to test with, but yum sure wants both packages.
Yes, it wants both rpm's, not sure what to do with the result? I'll try the chart again that was hosed itn the earlier message, maybe this time:
Showing 4 of 4 printers. ▼ Queue Name ▼ Description Location Make and Model Status BrGenML1 BrGenML1 Brother BrGenML1 for CUPS Idle HL-2170W HL-2170W Asylum Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish." HL-5140 HL-5140 Asylum Brother HL-5140 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.10 Idle HL-L2340DW HL-L2340DW Asylum Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."
On 02/04/2015 11:28 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 12:07, g wrote:
so pull both.
whether or not it works, elephrino, i do not have the printer to test with, but yum sure wants both packages.
Yes, it wants both rpm's, not sure what to do with the result? I'll try the chart again that was hosed itn the earlier message, maybe this time:
Showing 4 of 4 printers. ▼ Queue Name ▼ Description Location Make and Model Status BrGenML1 BrGenML1 Brother BrGenML1 for CUPS Idle HL-2170W HL-2170W Asylum Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish." HL-5140 HL-5140 Asylum Brother HL-5140 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.10 Idle HL-L2340DW HL-L2340DW Asylum Brother HL-2170W Foomatic/hpijs-pcl5e (recommended) Idle - "Waiting for printer to finish."
yep. that is what i show with my samsung printer. :-)
along with Fred Smith's suggestion, you should also, reply to the "solution" email they sent you with your 'printers' screen and a link to the brother page that shows the linux drivers for the printer.
if it where me, i would also write the pres and board of directors of brother and inform them of same.
if nothing else, you would be showing just what kind of screwed state of affairs the company it in. ;-)
also, when you get other printer working and return the hl-l2340dw printer, send pres and head of board a copy of your return for credit receipt. be sure that you have reason for return is that the printer does not work with drivers supplied from brother site. ;-)
On 02/04/15 15:44, g wrote:
yep. that is what i show with my samsung printer.:-)
along with Fred Smith's suggestion, you should also, reply to the "solution" email they sent you with your 'printers' screen and a link to the brother page that shows the linux drivers for the printer.
if it where me, i would also write the pres and board of directors of brother and inform them of same.
if nothing else, you would be showing just what kind of screwed state of affairs the company it in.;-)
also, when you get other printer working and return the hl-l2340dw printer, send pres and head of board a copy of your return for credit receipt. be sure that you have reason for return is that the printer does not work with drivers supplied from brother site.;-)
.
Well I don't know that they deserve that. They do provide Linux drivers for many of their printers, this one is bottom of the line and seems to be exactly what they specify it to be. And it does work using other drivers, I might not be able to do two sided printing but then I have never had that feature and if it was important I probably should buy a different model, if I return this one I will use it as a credit against another printer.
Bob
On 02/04/2015 03:02 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: <>
Well I don't know that they deserve that. They do provide Linux drivers for many of their printers, this one is bottom of the line and seems to be exactly what they specify it to be. And it does work using other drivers, I might not be able to do two sided printing but then I have never had that feature and if it was important I probably should buy a different model, if I return this one I will use it as a credit against another printer.
tho what i wrote was with humor, (sic) it was also in good faith and good coming from it.
regardless of what some folks think, big corps like and need good feedback on how they are doing. with out it, they do not fair well.
even tho brother is starting to recognize that linux exists, they do need to improve of their support for linux. all companies do.
who knows, they just might ask you if you want to be a linux driver tester for brother printers. ((GBWG))
much luck.
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 04:02:48PM -0500, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 02/04/15 15:44, g wrote:
yep. that is what i show with my samsung printer.:-)
along with Fred Smith's suggestion, you should also, reply to the "solution" email they sent you with your 'printers' screen and a link to the brother page that shows the linux drivers for the printer.
if it where me, i would also write the pres and board of directors of brother and inform them of same.
if nothing else, you would be showing just what kind of screwed state of affairs the company it in.;-)
also, when you get other printer working and return the hl-l2340dw printer, send pres and head of board a copy of your return for credit receipt. be sure that you have reason for return is that the printer does not work with drivers supplied from brother site.;-)
.
Well I don't know that they deserve that. They do provide Linux drivers for many of their printers, this one is bottom of the line and seems to be exactly what they specify it to be. And it does work using other drivers, I might not be able to do two sided printing
Just curious: have you verified that you can't do duplex printing, or is that just a concern/fear you have? If the 'generic' driver that is working doesn't support duplex, perhaps one of the others does???
but then I have never had that feature and if it was important I probably should buy a different model, if I return this one I will use it as a credit against another printer.
Bob
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On 02/05/2015 10:44 AM, Fred Smith wrote: <>
Just curious: have you verified that you can't do duplex printing, or is that just a concern/fear you have? If the 'generic' driver that is working doesn't support duplex, perhaps one of the others does???
when Bob gets around to writing his 'Pulitzer' life history, (snicker) and printer does not or wont, here is a howto that will save him a lot of paper, and trees;
http://howtoprintdoublesided.com/duplex-printing-with-long-edge-and-short-ed...
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