Does Fedora PPC work / install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is not.
Otherwise I'm going to try Debian Lenny, which is said to work, but about which I know nothing. (The machine has 416 MB memory and I'll install a 40 GB hard disk for Linux, so other than speed it should be good to go.)
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Tony Nelson tonynelson@georgeanelson.com wrote:
Does Fedora PPC work / install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is not.
How did you form this impression? Did you actually try to install the PPC spin from: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-ppc ?
On 09-10-28 03:56:38, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Tony Nelson tonynelson@georgeanelson.com wrote:
Does Fedora PPC work / install on oldworld PCI Macs, such as a beige G3 desktop? My impression is not.
How did you form this impression? Did you actually try to install the PPC spin from: http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-ppc ?
No. I saw nothing that indicated support for oldworld Macs -- "if you can persuade them to boot they probably ought to work" shows they haven't been tried and that I would have a hard time in any case, and on PenguinPPC.org, I found a table [2] saying only newworld for Fedora.
I did start downloading the F12Beta PPC torrent, but it was slow (few seeds, few peers), and I found the lack of support before it got far. The F11 PPC torrent is fast (but still no peers or sharing).
Now back to my question. Have /you/ installed a recent Fedora on an oldworld PCI Mac? Or do you know of anyone who has?
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SupportedPowerPC#Old_World_Mac [2] http://penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Tony Nelson tonynelson@georgeanelson.com wrote:
No. I saw nothing that indicated support for oldworld Macs -- "if you can persuade them to boot they probably ought to work" shows they haven't been tried and that I would have a hard time in any case, and on PenguinPPC.org, I found a table [2] saying only newworld for Fedora.
Ah sorry, I completely missed the new/old world distinction; thanks for the pointers.
Now back to my question. Have /you/ installed a recent Fedora on an oldworld PCI Mac? Or do you know of anyone who has?
I don't owe any Mac hardware (I'd probably add "unfortunately"...), but I think there are developers with different kind of PPC macs around in fedora-devel. However, from the wiki link you gave, I also suspect there could be no significant userbase among them for those oldworld macs, otherwise the text would be more encouraging.
On the flip side, it looks like the wiki page is quite old, and the text seems to indicate the real problem is how to start the installation (yes, this is entirely my own speculation...) so at least you have some pointers to work on...
Cheers
G.
On 09-10-28 15:02:25, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Tony Nelson tonynelson@georgeanelson.com wrote:
No. I saw nothing that indicated support for oldworld Macs -- "if you can persuade them to boot they probably ought to work" shows they haven't been tried and that I would have a hard time in any case, and on PenguinPPC.org, I found a table [2] saying only newworld for Fedora.
Ah sorry, I completely missed the new/old world distinction;
Aha! It's the only reason to think Fedora wouldn't work.
thanks for the pointers.
You're welcome.
Now back to my question. Have /you/ installed a recent Fedora on an oldworld PCI Mac? Or do you know of anyone who has?
I don't owe any Mac hardware (I'd probably add "unfortunately"...),
I stopped buying Macs 10 years ago, when NeXT took over Apple and replaced MacOS with NextStep, calling it MacOSX, so I can't agree.
but I think there are developers with different kind of PPC macs around in fedora-devel.
I'll bug them instead.
However, from the wiki link you gave, I also suspect there could be no significant userbase among them for those oldworld macs, otherwise the text would be more encouraging.
It's 10 years old! Two years older than my PC. I just don't need it much as a Mac anymore.
On the flip side, it looks like the wiki page is quite old, and the text seems to indicate the real problem is how to start the installation (yes, this is entirely my own speculation...) so at least you have some pointers to work on...
Yes. Clearly I'll start with Debian, which claims to work and has more instructions, and if it boots the installer I might possibly try Fedora.
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