Yum Upgrade

[Jim Douglas]

Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?

Jim

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[Yonas Abraham]

Yes you can. first you need to manually install the
fedora-release-notes and fedora-release rpms.  from F7 mirrors and do
yum upgrade!

On 7/25/07, Jim Douglas  wrote:
> Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?
>
> Jim
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[Paul Osunero]

Yes

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq

basically all you do is do a 'yum clean all' and run 'rpm -Uhv
ftp://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fedora/i386/os/Fedora/fedora-release-7.noarch.rpm'.
 Then, when you do a yum upgrade you'll have fedora 7.

On 7/25/07, Jim Douglas  wrote:
> Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?
>
> Jim
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[Kam Leo]

On 7/25/07, Jim Douglas  wrote:
> Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?
>
> Jim

It's not recommended; but, yes you can. Install
fedora-release-6.4-noarch.rpm, first. Then edit, review, and change
all your FC6 yum .repo files to point to the  F7 repos. The
repositories have changed to pay attention. Extras has been merged
into the Everything repository.

Good luck!

[Kam Leo]

On 7/25/07, Kam Leo  wrote:
> On 7/25/07, Jim Douglas  wrote:
> > Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?
> >
> > Jim
>
> It's not recommended; but, yes you can. Install
> fedora-release-6.4-noarch.rpm, first. Then edit, review, and change

Brain hickup -^ should be fedora-release-7-noarch.rpm.
> all your FC6 yum .repo files to point to the  F7 repos. The
> repositories have changed to pay attention. Extras has been merged
> into the Everything repository.
>
> Good luck!

[Jim Cornette]

Jim Douglas wrote:
> Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?
>
> Jim

Yes but it could be a bumpy road depending on what programs you have 
installed and if you use labels vs. device entries.

To kick off the process you need to download the fedora-release and 
fedora-release-notes packages which will change the entries in your 
repos and set them up for Fedora 7. You may have to disable 
fedora-extras manually since F7 no longer separates the repos.

So it is possible using yum but not a simple yum -y update away.

Jim C.

[itamar]

yes its possible.

I do this since fc1

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What is the difference between yum update and yum upgrade?
I never do yum upgrade, but yum update at most.

On 7/26/07, Itamar Reis Peixoto  wrote:
> yes its possible.
>
> I do this since fc1
>
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> > Jim
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[Kevin Cummings]

Pan Mail wrote:
> What is the difference between yum update and yum upgrade?
> I never do yum upgrade, but yum update at most.

According to the man page, upgrade = update --obsoletes

It also says it is more suitable to use for distrobution upgrades, like
changing from somelinux 8.0 to somelinux 9.

Amazing what you can learn by reading a man page.  B^)

It is my understanding that some changes were made recently that allowed
for package obsoletion more readily during an update, which renders the
difference pretty much moot these days.  I could be wrong about this
though.  I've had certain packages removed during an update and be
replaced by new ones with different names.

[Tim]

On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 14:05 +0800, Pan Mail wrote:
> What is the difference between yum update and yum upgrade?

"man yum" explains it.

[itamar]

according with man yum

update If run without any packages, update will update every currently installed package.  If one or more packages are specified, Yum will only update the  listed  packages.   While
              updating  packages, yum will ensure that all dependencies are satisfied.  If no package matches the given package name(s), they are assumed to be a shell glob and any matches
              are then installed.

If the --obsoletes flag is present yum will include package obsoletes in its calculations - this makes it better for  distro-version  changes,  for  example:  upgrading  from
              somelinux 8.0 to somelinux 9.
__________________________________-

upgrade
              Is the same as the update command with the --obsoletes flag set. See update for more details.

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pan Mail 
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  Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 3:05 AM
  Subject: Re: Yum Upgrade

What is the difference between yum update and yum upgrade?
  I never do yum upgrade, but yum update at most.

On 7/26/07, Itamar Reis Peixoto < [e-mail]> wrote:
    yes its possible.

I do this since fc1

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    Subject: Yum Upgrade

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    > Jim
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[Bill Davidsen]

Kevin J. Cummings wrote:
> Pan Mail wrote:
> > What is the difference between yum update and yum upgrade?
> > I never do yum upgrade, but yum update at most.
>
> According to the man page, upgrade = update --obsoletes
>
> It also says it is more suitable to use for distrobution upgrades, like
> changing from somelinux 8.0 to somelinux 9.
>
> Amazing what you can learn by reading a man page.  B^)
>
> It is my understanding that some changes were made recently that allowed
> for package obsoletion more readily during an update, which renders the
> difference pretty much moot these days.  I could be wrong about this
> though.  I've had certain packages removed during an update and be
> replaced by new ones with different names.

I often check the option to keep rpms in /var/cache/yum after update, in 
the hope that I will find the perfect way to use them for upgrades of 
other machines. It would be nice if there were an option to keep only 
the most recent version and delete both the old software and the old rpm.

I admit I haven't quite figured how to get the metadata to come from the 
repositories and the rpms to come from the saved files, though. I don't 
really want to set up a repository, although DAG has some software to do 
it. I haven't tried it, but maybe a unin filesystem or such...

[Paul Johnson]

On 7/25/07, Jim Douglas  wrote:
> Can you upgrade with Yum from 6 to 7?
>
> Jim

I have done it several times, and there are a few problems to be aware of.

You install the fedora-release and fedora-release-notes from F7, then
try yum update and watch what happens.

Be warned, you will see errors at the end due to file conflicts.  So
remove those rpms that cause conflicts, and try to use yum to update
those particular ones.

perl and python upgrades did not go smoothly.

Download perl, perl-libs, and whatever other perl rpms you have now
(see them with "rpm -qa | grep perl") .   perl has conflicts with many
things, but you really need it, so you have to do one of those "rpm -e
perl --nodeps" and then right away install the new perl.

Before you start, check your /etc/fstab file and make sure you are
using LABELS for alll mounted drives.  If not, create them and
reconfigure. (e2label does that). Make sure the system starts in F6
after doing that.

Huge problem I ran into was that F7 uses scsi to access ide drives, so
things that used to be seen as hda are now sda.  And the labeling of
other devices had big changes.  I have a CD that was /dev/hdc, but now
the 3rd ide drive is /dev/sdc, and the cdrom is /dev/scd0.  It caused
problems in the software RAID configuration and also in grub.

Good luck, unless you are pretty experienced, you are better advised
to run the disk upgrade