7 a.m.
Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download time
which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not necessarily
be caused by the downloading as such.
But when I am about to pick up the downloading again, bittorrent-curses
starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops, and
reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old" problem of
course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
Brgds
PAR
10:59 a.m.
on 8/30/2007 5:00 AM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download time
which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not necessarily
be caused by the downloading as such.
But when I am about to pick up the downloading again, bittorrent-curses
starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops, and
reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old" problem of
course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
works best from level 3 but it will work in a terminal
cd /where_you_want_the_iso_to_ go
- all on one line- (this might line wrap)
wget -c
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fed...
the -c will permit restarts if your machine crashes of you are disconnected.
--
David
3:27 p.m.
David Boles wrote:
on 8/30/2007 5:00 AM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
> Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
> bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download time
> which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
> screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
>
> The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
> freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not necessarily
> be caused by the downloading as such.
> But when I am about to pick up the downloading again, bittorrent-curses
> starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
> downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops, and
> reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
> Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old" problem of
> course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
>
works best from level 3 but it will work in a terminal
cd /where_you_want_the_iso_to_ go
- all on one line- (this might line wrap)
wget -c
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fed...
the -c will permit restarts if your machine crashes of you are disconnected.
Teh wget part is already completed, I am now running the
bittorent_curses part.
Brgds
PAR
3:57 p.m.
on 8/30/2007 1:27 PM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
David Boles wrote:
> on 8/30/2007 5:00 AM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>
>> Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
>> bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download time
>> which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
>> screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
>>
>> The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
>> freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not necessarily
>> be caused by the downloading as such.
>> But when I am about to pick up the downloading again, bittorrent-curses
>> starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
>> downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops, and
>> reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
>> Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old" problem of
>> course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
>>
>
> works best from level 3 but it will work in a terminal
>
> cd /where_you_want_the_iso_to_ go
>
> - all on one line- (this might line wrap)
>
> wget -c
>
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fed...
>
>
> the -c will permit restarts if your machine crashes of you are disconnected.
>
Teh wget part is already completed, I am now running the
bittorent_curses part.
I am confused by what you wrote. As I understand it you downloads the iso
with wget and now you are downloading the same iso with bittorent?
If that is what you are doing I just have to ask why are you downloading
the same iso twice?
--
David
6:15 p.m.
David Boles wrote:
on 8/30/2007 1:27 PM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
> David Boles wrote:
>
>> on 8/30/2007 5:00 AM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
>>> bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download time
>>> which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
>>> screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
>>>
>>> The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
>>> freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not necessarily
>>> be caused by the downloading as such.
>>> But when I am about to pick up the downloading again, bittorrent-curses
>>> starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
>>> downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops, and
>>> reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
>>> Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old" problem of
>>> course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
>>>
>>>
>> works best from level 3 but it will work in a terminal
>>
>> cd /where_you_want_the_iso_to_ go
>>
>> - all on one line- (this might line wrap)
>>
>> wget -c
>>
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fed...
>>
>>
>> the -c will permit restarts if your machine crashes of you are disconnected.
>>
>>
> Teh wget part is already completed, I am now running the
> bittorent_curses part.
>
I am confused by what you wrote. As I understand it you downloads the iso
with wget and now you are downloading the same iso with bittorent?
If that is what you are doing I just have to ask why are you downloading
the same iso twice?
That is not what I am doing.
First i did run wget
http://torrent.fedora.project.org/torrents/Fedora-7-i386.torrent
Then I am running
bittorrent-curses Fedora-7-i386.torrent
and now F-7-i386-DVD.iso is created. I have so far downloaded
363,593,728 bytes of this file, but now the problem I describe is
putting a stop to further downloading.
When I start the *-curses again, it begins with examining the *.iso
file, but at an early stage of this examination the computer simply
shuts down, i.e. it freezes.
It seems that it calculates how far the download has come so far in
order to continue the download from that point on, i.e, it has a
built-in -c option. At least that is my interpretation of this.
Is the confusion brought into order? :-)
Brgds
PAR
6:36 p.m.
on 8/30/2007 4:15 PM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
David Boles wrote:
> on 8/30/2007 1:27 PM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>
>> David Boles wrote:
>>
>>> on 8/30/2007 5:00 AM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
>>>> bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download time
>>>> which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
>>>> screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
>>>>
>>>> The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
>>>> freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not necessarily
>>>> be caused by the downloading as such.
>>>> But when I am about to pick up the downloading again, bittorrent-curses
>>>> starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
>>>> downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops, and
>>>> reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
>>>> Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old" problem
of
>>>> course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> works best from level 3 but it will work in a terminal
>>>
>>> cd /where_you_want_the_iso_to_ go
>>>
>>> - all on one line- (this might line wrap)
>>>
>>> wget -c
>>>
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fed...
>>>
>>>
>>> the -c will permit restarts if your machine crashes of you are disconnected.
>>>
>>>
>> Teh wget part is already completed, I am now running the
>> bittorent_curses part.
>>
>
> I am confused by what you wrote. As I understand it you downloads the iso
> with wget and now you are downloading the same iso with bittorent?
>
> If that is what you are doing I just have to ask why are you downloading
> the same iso twice?
>
>
That is not what I am doing.
First i did run wget
http://torrent.fedora.project.org/torrents/Fedora-7-i386.torrent
Then I am running
bittorrent-curses Fedora-7-i386.torrent
and now F-7-i386-DVD.iso is created. I have so far downloaded
363,593,728 bytes of this file, but now the problem I describe is
putting a stop to further downloading.
When I start the *-curses again, it begins with examining the *.iso
file, but at an early stage of this examination the computer simply
shuts down, i.e. it freezes.
It seems that it calculates how far the download has come so far in
order to continue the download from that point on, i.e, it has a
built-in -c option. At least that is my interpretation of this.
Is the confusion brought into order? :-)
Yes. Now.
You used wget to download the torrent link and then began a torrent to
download the iso. Every time you restart a bittorent it will check what
has been downloaded to find two things. What parts have already been
downloaded and if they are good parts. Bittorent downloads parts from many
sources. File sharing. For bittorent to work well it has to be configured.
You have to open a port, set downloads speed to unlimited and, depending
on your Internet connection, cut down the upload speed. 10 is a good place
to start. Also some ISPs throttle back bittorent because it is manly used
to steal commercial program and movies.
The link that I gave to you would directly download the iso from a very
fast site at The university of Southern California without using the
bittorent application at all. I do not know what your Internet connection
speed is but with mine, 800 - 1000 mbps, it would take about 40 minutes,
maybe less, to download the DVD iso of Fedora 7.
Good luck. You will like Fedora 7. And just think. Fedora 8 is scheduled
for early November. :-)
--
David
3:01 a.m.
David Boles wrote:
on 8/30/2007 4:15 PM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
> David Boles wrote:
>
>> on 8/30/2007 1:27 PM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>>
>>
>>> David Boles wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> on 8/30/2007 5:00 AM, Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Now I have experienced something odd. I am downloading F7 using
>>>>> bittorrent. (It has been predicting about 16-18 hours of download
time
>>>>> which I guess is acceptable) I have in another thread discussed my
>>>>> screen freeze problem, which now may or may not be expanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> The PC usually freezes after some time of downloading, - well, it
>>>>> freezes anyway after some time has elapsed - so it may not
necessarily
>>>>> be caused by the downloading as such.
>>>>> But when I am about to pick up the downloading again,
bittorrent-curses
>>>>> starts out by checking the cintents of the .iso file which has been
>>>>> downloaded so far. After a very short while the whole thing stops,
and
>>>>> reboot is the only option. This has happened 3 times in a row.
>>>>> Does anyone have suggestions here? It may be the "old"
problem of
>>>>> course, but could this be some disk problem as well?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> works best from level 3 but it will work in a terminal
>>>>
>>>> cd /where_you_want_the_iso_to_ go
>>>>
>>>> - all on one line- (this might line wrap)
>>>>
>>>> wget -c
>>>>
ftp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/7/Fed...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the -c will permit restarts if your machine crashes of you are
disconnected.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Teh wget part is already completed, I am now running the
>>> bittorent_curses part.
>>>
>>>
>> I am confused by what you wrote. As I understand it you downloads the iso
>> with wget and now you are downloading the same iso with bittorent?
>>
>> If that is what you are doing I just have to ask why are you downloading
>> the same iso twice?
>>
>>
>>
> That is not what I am doing.
> First i did run wget
> http://torrent.fedora.project.org/torrents/Fedora-7-i386.torrent
> Then I am running
> bittorrent-curses Fedora-7-i386.torrent
> and now F-7-i386-DVD.iso is created. I have so far downloaded
> 363,593,728 bytes of this file, but now the problem I describe is
> putting a stop to further downloading.
> When I start the *-curses again, it begins with examining the *.iso
> file, but at an early stage of this examination the computer simply
> shuts down, i.e. it freezes.
> It seems that it calculates how far the download has come so far in
> order to continue the download from that point on, i.e, it has a
> built-in -c option. At least that is my interpretation of this.
>
> Is the confusion brought into order? :-)
>
Yes. Now.
You used wget to download the torrent link and then began a torrent to
download the iso. Every time you restart a bittorent it will check what
has been downloaded to find two things. What parts have already been
downloaded and if they are good parts. Bittorent downloads parts from many
sources. File sharing. For bittorent to work well it has to be configured.
You have to open a port, set downloads speed to unlimited and, depending
on your Internet connection, cut down the upload speed. 10 is a good place
to start. Also some ISPs throttle back bittorent because it is manly used
to steal commercial program and movies.
The link that I gave to you would directly download the iso from a very
fast site at The university of Southern California without using the
bittorent application at all. I do not know what your Internet connection
speed is but with mine, 800 - 1000 mbps, it would take about 40 minutes,
maybe less, to download the DVD iso of Fedora 7.
Good luck. You will like Fedora 7. And just think. Fedora 8 is scheduled
for early November. :-)
Thanks a lot. It started downloading with no freeze so far, and -c
made it append to the incomplete *.iso file already downloaded.
At this time it predicts 13h 44m to download. I can absolutely live with
that.
If I experience another freeze, I just restart the whole thing with the
-c option.
I would be surprised if it does not freeze at some time.
This freeze problem seems to be quite a rare thing, I have not seen many
others having the same problem, ant it is a very elusive problem.
Is it software related?
Is it hardware/software related?
Why has the effect changed? Earlier I could enter the PC via an ssh back
door (from my backup machine) and shut down Xorg. That did the trick.
But now the freeze condition has become more serious, now it shuts down
the ethernet card as well so that the backup PC no longer is connected.
I will study the thread about ssh here first, but I also have
experienced that the backup machine no longer can run X via ssh to the
main PC.
ssh -X 10.0.0.6 goes fine, but starting kwrite, gftp or any other
GUI-based program fails.
Before the present calamities started, I actually run the main PC via
the backup PC, a happy symbiosis which gave me time to focus on
productive programming.
Brgds
PAR
7:52 a.m.
Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>> I have so far downloaded
>> 363,593,728 bytes of this file, but now the problem I describe is
>> putting a stop to further downloading.
[SNIP]
Thanks a lot. It started downloading with no freeze so far, and -c
made it append to the incomplete *.iso file already downloaded.
You're going to be disappointed in the result. The FTP client is
going to assume that you have the first 363,593,728 bytes of the
iso file. That assumption is very wrong. What you have is random
chunks of the iso all packed together into a file. The FTP client
will append the remainder of the iso, leaving you with an unusable
result.
All is not lost, though. You just need to get the first portion
of the file again and append the remainder. Let your FTP download
complete, then rename the resulting file:
$ mv F-7-i386-DVD.iso rest.dat
Now start the FTP download again. Wait until at least 363,593,728
bytes have been downloaded and then interrupt the download. Now
you can use dd to put the good pieces together:
$ dd if=rest.dat of=F-7-i386-DVD.iso bs=256k skip=1387 seek=1387
Now you've got a complete iso file that should pass the SHA1
check. Note: 363,593,728 = 256K x 1387.
--
Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
Do NOT delete it.
1:30 p.m.
Robert Nichols wrote:
Per Anton Ronning wrote:
>>> I have so far downloaded 363,593,728 bytes of this
>>> file, but now the problem I describe is putting a stop to further
>>> downloading.
[SNIP]
> Thanks a lot. It started downloading with no freeze so far, and -c
> made it append to the incomplete *.iso file already downloaded.
You're going to be disappointed in the result. The FTP client is
going to assume that you have the first 363,593,728 bytes of the
iso file. That assumption is very wrong. What you have is random
chunks of the iso all packed together into a file. The FTP client
will append the remainder of the iso, leaving you with an unusable
result.
All is not lost, though. You just need to get the first portion
of the file again and append the remainder. Let your FTP download
complete, then rename the resulting file:
$ mv F-7-i386-DVD.iso rest.dat
Now start the FTP download again. Wait until at least 363,593,728
bytes have been downloaded and then interrupt the download. Now
you can use dd to put the good pieces together:
$ dd if=rest.dat of=F-7-i386-DVD.iso bs=256k skip=1387 seek=1387
Now you've got a complete iso file that should pass the SHA1
check. Note: 363,593,728 = 256K x 1387.
Thank you. I will go ahead with this when the download is complete.
Right now I have 1.6G remaining.
I also have another option: Wiley is publishing the "Fedora (X) and Red
Hat Enterprise Linux (X-1) Bible" , which is a comprehensive and good
manual .
I have one for X=5, and Amazon now offers X=7. There will be a F7 distro
DVD enclosed in the book.
I may want to buy this book anyway, but I want to try out what I am
doing right now.
Brgds
PAR
4:09 p.m.
Per Anton Ronning wrote:
I also have another option: Wiley is publishing the "Fedora (X)
and Red
Hat Enterprise Linux (X-1) Bible" , which is a comprehensive and good
manual .
I have one for X=5, and Amazon now offers X=7. There will be a F7 distro
DVD enclosed in the book.
I may want to buy this book anyway, but I want to try out what I am
doing right now.
Heck, for $5.99 plus shipping you can order the Fedora 7 x86 DVD from
cheapbytes.com .
--
Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
Do NOT delete it.
4:37 p.m.
Robert Nichols wrote:
Per Anton Ronning wrote:
> I also have another option: Wiley is publishing the "Fedora (X) and
> Red Hat Enterprise Linux (X-1) Bible" , which is a comprehensive and
> good manual .
> I have one for X=5, and Amazon now offers X=7. There will be a F7
> distro DVD enclosed in the book.
> I may want to buy this book anyway, but I want to try out what I am
> doing right now.
Heck, for $5.99 plus shipping you can order the Fedora 7 x86 DVD from
cheapbytes.com .
Yes, I know that there are cheap DVD's in the market. But my primary
idea was the book,
Christopher Negus writes well.
Brgds
PAR
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