Hi;
This is a little complex to follow. It's taken me two weeks to define the problem without finding a solution. Basically, my HP psc_1310_series printer keeps becoming un-enabled and removed as default. Here is what happens:
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
Everything continues to print fine in every program until I log out and in again. The cycle continues with the printer_config being marked as enabled until I call a new test print job.
I am baffled.
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi;
This is a little complex to follow. It's taken me two weeks to define the problem without finding a solution. Basically, my HP psc_1310_series printer keeps becoming un-enabled and removed as default. Here is what happens:
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
The fact that you indicate that you are chek marking a printer as enabled leads me to believe you are not using the cups web page to configure your printers. Is that true? If so that is a mistake. Use the web interface ans maybe your troubles will disappear.
Everything continues to print fine in every program until I log out and in again. The cycle continues with the printer_config being marked as enabled until I call a new test print job.
I am baffled.
-- Regards Bill
-- ======================================================================= A manager went to his programmers and told them: "As regards to your work hours: you are going to have to come in at nine in the morning and leave at five in the afternoon." At this, all of them became angry and several resigned on the spot. So the manager said: "All right, in that case you may set your own working hours, as long as you finish your projects on schedule." The programmers, now satisfied, began to come in a noon and work to the wee hours of the morning. -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming" ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On 12/31/06, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
Hi;
This is a little complex to follow. It's taken me two weeks to define the problem without finding a solution. Basically, my HP psc_1310_series printer keeps becoming un-enabled and removed as default. Here is what happens:
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
Everything continues to print fine in every program until I log out and in again. The cycle continues with the printer_config being marked as enabled until I call a new test print job.
I am baffled.
-- Regards Bill
What version of FC are you using? If it is pre-FC6 disable the cups-config-deamon service.
Hi;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 14:59 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 12/31/06, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
Everything continues to print fine in every program until I log out and in again. The cycle continues with the printer_config being marked as enabled until I call a new test print job.
What version of FC are you using? If it is pre-FC6 disable the cups-config-deamon service.
I am using FC6. And, I am using the Fedora gui printer_configure.
On 12/31/06, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
Hi;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 14:59 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 12/31/06, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
Everything continues to print fine in every program until I log out and in again. The cycle continues with the printer_config being marked as enabled until I call a new test print job.
What version of FC are you using? If it is pre-FC6 disable the cups-config-deamon service.
I am using FC6. And, I am using the Fedora gui printer_configure.
-- Regards Bill
Are you using the hpijs driver? Do you have the hplip service running?
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi;
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
The fact that you indicate that you are chek marking a printer as enabled leads me to believe you are not using the cups web page to configure your printers. Is that true? If so that is a mistake. Use the web interface ans maybe your troubles will disappear.
I am not using the Cups web page printer setup. I have tried both. George (the system-configure-printer gui) and Cups are supposed to be equivalent in FC6. (system-configure-printer gui is quite a mouthful, so I just call the little printer icon George).
At least that is what I have been told Fedora is striving for. In any case, Cups gives me no joy, in fact it makes things worse by not printing anything ( but I haven't looked into why).
I am baffled.
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 15:54 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 12/31/06, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
Hi;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 14:59 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 12/31/06, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
I login, check my printer_config settings and my HP psc_1310_series printer is check marked as enabled. Open a word processing or text editing program such as Open Office Writer, AbiWord, emacs or gedit and try and print a test page. The test page is put in the queue but no printing. I again check my printer_config; my HP psc_1310_series printer is no longer enabled. If I re-checkmark the enabled box and 'Apply', the printer immediately prints everything in the queue even if I have cancelled all the outstanding jobs.
Everything continues to print fine in every program until I log out and in again. The cycle continues with the printer_config being marked as enabled until I call a new test print job.
What version of FC are you using? If it is pre-FC6 disable the cups-config-deamon service.
I am using FC6. And, I am using the Fedora gui printer_configure.
-- Regards Bill
Are you using the hpijs driver? Do you have the hplip service running?
Yes I am using hpijs. No I haven't set the hplip service yet?
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi;
The fact that you indicate that you are chek marking a printer as enabled leads me to believe you are not using the cups web page to configure your printers. Is that true? If so that is a mistake. Use the web interface ans maybe your troubles will disappear.
I am not using the Cups web page printer setup. I have tried both. George (the system-configure-printer gui) and Cups are supposed to be equivalent in FC6. (system-configure-printer gui is quite a mouthful, so I just call the little printer icon George).
At least that is what I have been told Fedora is striving for. In any case, Cups gives me no joy, in fact it makes things worse by not printing anything ( but I haven't looked into why).
Just went through the same exercise using Cups:631 to install my printer. Still end up with 'enabled' switching itself off.
I am baffled.
-- Regards Bill, FC6
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi;
The fact that you indicate that you are chek marking a printer as enabled leads me to believe you are not using the cups web page to configure your printers. Is that true? If so that is a mistake. Use the web interface ans maybe your troubles will disappear.
I am not using the Cups web page printer setup. I have tried both. George (the system-configure-printer gui) and Cups are supposed to be equivalent in FC6. (system-configure-printer gui is quite a mouthful, so I just call the little printer icon George).
At least that is what I have been told Fedora is striving for. In any case, Cups gives me no joy, in fact it makes things worse by not printing anything ( but I haven't looked into why).
Just went through the same exercise using Cups:631 to install my printer. Still end up with 'enabled' switching itself off.
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
I am baffled.
-- Regards Bill, FC6
-- Regards Bill
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 09:49 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
AT the risk of appearing extremely dumb, and knowing that in the end it probably doesn't matter a whole lot: The sourceforge download site warns "After downloading make sure to put the hplip-1.6.12.run file in the directory you will want the hplip directory to be created."
Keeping in mind I am using a fairly standard single desktop home LAN setup for FC6, in which directory will I want the hplip directory created? Any logical suggestion based on experience will do.
On Monday 01 January 2007 18:31, William Case wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 09:49 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
AT the risk of appearing extremely dumb, and knowing that in the end it probably doesn't matter a whole lot: The sourceforge download site warns "After downloading make sure to put the hplip-1.6.12.run file in the directory you will want the hplip directory to be created."
Keeping in mind I am using a fairly standard single desktop home LAN setup for FC6, in which directory will I want the hplip directory created? Any logical suggestion based on experience will do.
You seem to be doing it the hard way, Bill. I got mine from Fedora core repository, and it installed into /usr/share/hplip.
Anne
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 09:49 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
AT the risk of appearing extremely dumb, and knowing that in the end it probably doesn't matter a whole lot: The sourceforge download site warns "After downloading make sure to put the hplip-1.6.12.run file in the directory you will want the hplip directory to be created."
Keeping in mind I am using a fairly standard single desktop home LAN setup for FC6, in which directory will I want the hplip directory created? Any logical suggestion based on experience will do.
-- Regards Bill
Why are you going to Sourceforge? hplip should be included, if not already installed, on your FC6 setup. Do a "rpm -qa | grep hplip" to find out. If it is not installed do "yum install hplip".
Hi Anne and Karn;
Now feel really stupid. Like I have stepped back 2 years on the learning curve. See below.
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 10:50 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 09:49 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
AT the risk of appearing extremely dumb, and knowing that in the end it probably doesn't matter a whole lot: The sourceforge download site warns "After downloading make sure to put the hplip-1.6.12.run file in the directory you will want the hplip directory to be created."
Keeping in mind I am using a fairly standard single desktop home LAN setup for FC6, in which directory will I want the hplip directory created? Any logical suggestion based on experience will do.
-- Regards Bill
Why are you going to Sourceforge? hplip should be included, if not already installed, on your FC6 setup. Do a "rpm -qa | grep hplip" to find out. If it is not installed do "yum install hplip".
"rpm -qa | grep hplip" shows hplip installed. Checked with 'locate' and 'whereis' for good measure. "yum update hplip" shows no updates needed.
My printer is still un-enabled.
On Monday 01 January 2007 19:03, William Case wrote:
Hi Anne and Karn;
Now feel really stupid. Like I have stepped back 2 years on the learning curve. See below.
It does sound very puzzling. As far as I can see the printer is supported and should give no problems. I looked at http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PSC_1310
This thread may be helpful
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=275259
I hope you get this sorted. That sounds to be a very good replacement unit for my aging DJ990CXi and Epson 1650 scanner.
Anne
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
Hi Anne and Karn;
Now feel really stupid. Like I have stepped back 2 years on the learning curve. See below.
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 10:50 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 09:49 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
AT the risk of appearing extremely dumb, and knowing that in the end it probably doesn't matter a whole lot: The sourceforge download site warns "After downloading make sure to put the hplip-1.6.12.run file in the directory you will want the hplip directory to be created."
Keeping in mind I am using a fairly standard single desktop home LAN setup for FC6, in which directory will I want the hplip directory created? Any logical suggestion based on experience will do.
-- Regards Bill
Why are you going to Sourceforge? hplip should be included, if not already installed, on your FC6 setup. Do a "rpm -qa | grep hplip" to find out. If it is not installed do "yum install hplip".
"rpm -qa | grep hplip" shows hplip installed. Checked with 'locate' and 'whereis' for good measure. "yum update hplip" shows no updates needed.
My printer is still un-enabled.
What does "service hplip status" show?
-- Regards Bill
Hi Karn and Anne;
I failed to input a location; at the moment there is only one location. When I re-set my printer using CUPS:631 last night I input a location, now it seems to work properly. I am really sorry for taking up your time unnecessarily. Working late at night and succumbing to frustration is my only excuse.
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 14:03 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Anne and Karn;
Now feel really stupid. Like I have stepped back 2 years on the learning curve. See below.
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 10:50 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 09:49 -0800, Kam Leo wrote:
On 1/1/07, William Case billlinux@rogers.com wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
hplip. HP wrote and donated it for a purpose. Try it.
AT the risk of appearing extremely dumb, and knowing that in the end it probably doesn't matter a whole lot: The sourceforge download site warns "After downloading make sure to put the hplip-1.6.12.run file in the directory you will want the hplip directory to be created."
Keeping in mind I am using a fairly standard single desktop home LAN setup for FC6, in which directory will I want the hplip directory created? Any logical suggestion based on experience will do.
-- Regards Bill
Why are you going to Sourceforge? hplip should be included, if not already installed, on your FC6 setup. Do a "rpm -qa | grep hplip" to find out. If it is not installed do "yum install hplip".
"rpm -qa | grep hplip" shows hplip installed. Checked with 'locate' and 'whereis' for good measure. "yum update hplip" shows no updates needed.
My printer is still un-enabled.
-- Regards Bill
On Monday 01 January 2007 19:30, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Anne;
I failed to input a location; at the moment there is only one location. When I re-set my printer using CUPS:631 last night I input a location, now it seems to work properly. I am really sorry for taking up your time unnecessarily. Working late at night and succumbing to frustration is my only excuse.
I've been guilty of that one, many times :-) Glad you got it sorted.
Could you give us some feedback on how well it all works, once you've used it for a few days? If you can get most of it working well I'd be very interested. I'm impressed with the Brother DCP-34CW, but it doesn't do duplexing, and once you've had it, you miss it.
Anne
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 12:26 -0500, William Case wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 19:08 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi Karn and Aaron;
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 16:42 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 13:37 -0500, William Case wrote:
Hi;
The fact that you indicate that you are chek marking a printer as enabled leads me to believe you are not using the cups web page to configure your printers. Is that true? If so that is a mistake. Use the web interface ans maybe your troubles will disappear.
I am not using the Cups web page printer setup. I have tried both. George (the system-configure-printer gui) and Cups are supposed to be equivalent in FC6. (system-configure-printer gui is quite a mouthful, so I just call the little printer icon George).
At least that is what I have been told Fedora is striving for. In any case, Cups gives me no joy, in fact it makes things worse by not printing anything ( but I haven't looked into why).
Just went through the same exercise using Cups:631 to install my printer. Still end up with 'enabled' switching itself off.
You do mean localhost:631 don't you? -- ======================================================================= Mencken and Nathan's Sixteenth Law of The Average American: Milking a cow is an operation demanding a special talent that is possessed only by yokels, and no person born in a large city can never hope to acquire it. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 14:30 -0500, William Case wrote:
i Karn and Anne;
I failed to input a location; at the moment there is only one location. When I re-set my printer using CUPS:631 last night I input a location, now it seems to work properly. I am really sorry for taking up your time unnecessarily. Working late at night and succumbing to frustration is my only excuse.
That's fascinating. In my experience the location (if you mean what room the printer is in) is irrelevant in configuring the printer. -- ======================================================================= Any philosophy that can be put "in a nutshell" belongs there. -- Sydney J. Harris ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 16:23 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 14:30 -0500, William Case wrote:
i Karn and Anne;
I failed to input a location; at the moment there is only one location. When I re-set my printer using CUPS:631 last night I input a location, now it seems to work properly. I am really sorry for taking up your time unnecessarily. Working late at night and succumbing to frustration is my only excuse.
That's fascinating. In my experience the location (if you mean what room the printer is in) is irrelevant in configuring the printer. --
You are right. It seems that the problem only comes up at re-boot. I have just tried several different programs in varying order, logging in and out. It seemed to work. Then I tried re-booting and the problem returned. To reiterate:
1) I re-boot; login; check the system-configure-printing gui and CUPS:631. My HP psc-1310-series is enabled and default. 2) I open any of four different applications; create a test page of gobblyguk. 3) I use the print command on the File menu tab. Check that the HP psc-1310-series printer is listed and selected. The test page is placed in the printing queue -- but does not print. 4) Recheck the system-configure-printing gui and CUPS:631 and my printer is no longer enabled in the system-configure-printing gui. I re-enable it and the queue prints. 5) The printer continues to print until I re-boot.
(By the way, If you hear in the news that an older man in Ottawa Canada mysteriously drowned in his basement under six feet of paper, would you let the authorities know what I was working on?)
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 18:17 -0500, William Case wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 16:23 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-01 at 14:30 -0500, William Case wrote:
i Karn and Anne;
I failed to input a location; at the moment there is only one location. When I re-set my printer using CUPS:631 last night I input a location, now it seems to work properly. I am really sorry for taking up your time unnecessarily. Working late at night and succumbing to frustration is my only excuse.
That's fascinating. In my experience the location (if you mean what room the printer is in) is irrelevant in configuring the printer. --
You are right. It seems that the problem only comes up at re-boot. I have just tried several different programs in varying order, logging in and out. It seemed to work. Then I tried re-booting and the problem returned. To reiterate:
- I re-boot; login; check the system-configure-printing gui and
CUPS:631. My HP psc-1310-series is enabled and default. 2) I open any of four different applications; create a test page of gobblyguk. 3) I use the print command on the File menu tab. Check that the HPchkconfig cups-config-daemon off
If not restart cups-config-daemon by running: --
psc-1310-series printer is listed and selected. The test page is placed in the printing queue -- but does not print. 4) Recheck the system-configure-printing gui and CUPS:631 and my printer is no longer enabled in the system-configure-printing gui. I re-enable it and the queue prints. 5) The printer continues to print until I re-boot.
(By the way, If you hear in the news that an older man in Ottawa Canada mysteriously drowned in his basement under six feet of paper, would you let the authorities know what I was working on?)
Before you drown try one more thing if you haven't before. Stop cups-config-daemon by running: service cups-config-daemon stop
If that cures things then run : chkconfig cups-config-daemon off
If not restart cups-config-daemon by running: service cups-config-daemon start --
-- Regards Bill ======================================================================= In Pierre Trudeau, Canada has finally produced a Prime Minister worthy of assassination. -- John Diefenbaker ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
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