On 2020-07-19 23:08, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-07-19 10:18, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-19 21:52, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-07-18 18:47, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-18 23:57, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Yes it is ready: Press pwr on button, user name, password, startx and ll /mnt/smb in the terminal:
I see. Well, I've now done it this was as opposed from starting with a GUI login. I still have no problems.
[bobg@WS1 ~]$ ll /mnt/smb total 4 drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jul 10 17:25 dd3 drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Desktop drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jul 10 17:59 Documents drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Downloads drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Music drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Pictures drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Public drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Templates -rwxr-xr-x. 1 bobg bobg 0 Jul 8 15:58 'Untitled Document 1' drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Videos -rwxr-xr-x. 1 bobg bobg 0 Jul 12 20:22 x
However Thunar or Nautilus can not display this when I click on smb.
By clicking on "smb", you mean double-clicking on "mnt" and then double-clicking on "smb". Yes?
. No, I could triple click and still nothing, however I have an USB external drive, WD4TB, I have mounted, that requires a double click to open and display its' contents. NFS opens simply by selecting with one click, I think SMB should do the same as it does in the other, ws2, Fedora-31, computer with Thunar? I am not looking at the Network Browser, I've given up on that.
Sorry to be picky here. The next question is very important. Read carefully.
But, I need you to confirm that when talking about smb you are *not* talking about an smb entry under "Devices".
° I hope I can answer this satisfactorily ... When I say smb that is smb in the left panel of the file manager and smb appearing under Places, I can't drag it to devices, it pops back down. But a new observation, In Thunar I selected File System and navigated through mnt to smb and dragged it over to the left panel where it happily resides next to NFS, both under Places in the right panel, below them is the smb I was talking about that does not open anything, the one above does open and provide the list of files.
NFS also appears a second time above those under Devices and it opens too? Nothing I have tried so far will put smb under Devices, but it does seem to work now at least The FC31 WS2 is the same.
Here is the "problem".
When you have the share mounted on /mnt/smb there should be *no* smb entry in the Left-Panel. That is because Thunar is only "scanning" /media for local mounts. When a mount occurs under /media Thunar will place an entry in the Left-Panel under Devices. It will *not* do that for mounts under /mnt.
If the share under /media is unmounted Thunar should remove the entry from the Left-Panel.
Why it is still there on you Thunar, I do not know. However, it is a useless entry. No amount of clicking on it will be effective.
When I do a mount of the share under /mnt I do *not* have an smb entry on the Left-Panel. I have shown that with images I've post online.
There should never be a need to drag and drop entries to the Left-Panel. As a matter of fact, I think that will cause more confusion than ever since I think the action is actually creating a short cut of some sort.
I really don't know how Thunar is currently showing things and I think the GUI has been confused by the actions taken. I don't know how Thunar keeps track of where things may be.
I don't know how to "reset" Thunar. It *may* be helpful to post a screenshot of your Thunar online.
I would consider either deleting the user "bobg" on ws1 and then recreating the user. Making sure the uid and gid of the new user are 1000. Or I would change the name and uid/gid of bobg and then make a new user bobg.
To me part of the problem/confusion comes from naming the share mount points and a system the same as the protocol.
On 2020-07-19 14:54, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-19 23:08, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-07-19 10:18, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-19 21:52, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-07-18 18:47, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-18 23:57, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> Yes it is ready: Press pwr on button, user name, password, startx and ll /mnt/smb in the terminal: >
I see. Well, I've now done it this was as opposed from starting with a GUI login. I still have no problems.
[bobg@WS1 ~]$ ll /mnt/smb total 4 drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jul 10 17:25 dd3 drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Desktop drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jul 10 17:59 Documents drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Downloads drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Music drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Pictures drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Public drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Templates -rwxr-xr-x. 1 bobg bobg 0 Jul 8 15:58 'Untitled Document 1' drwxr-xr-x. 2 bobg bobg 0 Jun 28 12:22 Videos -rwxr-xr-x. 1 bobg bobg 0 Jul 12 20:22 x
However Thunar or Nautilus can not display this when I click on smb.
By clicking on "smb", you mean double-clicking on "mnt" and then double-clicking on "smb". Yes?
. No, I could triple click and still nothing, however I have an USB external drive, WD4TB, I have mounted, that requires a double click to open and display its' contents. NFS opens simply by selecting with one click, I think SMB should do the same as it does in the other, ws2, Fedora-31, computer with Thunar? I am not looking at the Network Browser, I've given up on that.
Sorry to be picky here. The next question is very important. Read carefully.
But, I need you to confirm that when talking about smb you are *not* talking about an smb entry under "Devices".
° I hope I can answer this satisfactorily ... When I say smb that is smb in the left panel of the file manager and smb appearing under Places, I can't drag it to devices, it pops back down. But a new observation, In Thunar I selected File System and navigated through mnt to smb and dragged it over to the left panel where it happily resides next to NFS, both under Places in the right panel, below them is the smb I was talking about that does not open anything, the one above does open and provide the list of files.
NFS also appears a second time above those under Devices and it opens too? Nothing I have tried so far will put smb under Devices, but it does seem to work now at least The FC31 WS2 is the same.
Here is the "problem".
When you have the share mounted on /mnt/smb there should be *no* smb entry in the Left-Panel.
That is because Thunar is only "scanning" /media for local mounts. When a mount occurs under /media Thunar will place an entry in the Left-Panel under Devices. It will *not* do that for mounts under /mnt.
If the share under /media is unmounted Thunar should remove the entry from the Left-Panel.
Why it is still there on you Thunar, I do not know. However, it is a useless entry. No amount of clicking on it will be effective.
When I do a mount of the share under /mnt I do *not* have an smb entry on the Left-Panel. I have shown that with images I've post online.
There should never be a need to drag and drop entries to the Left-Panel. As a matter of fact, I think that will cause more confusion than ever since I think the action is actually creating a short cut of some sort.
I really don't know how Thunar is currently showing things and I think the GUI has been confused by the actions taken. I don't know how Thunar keeps track of where things may be.
I don't know how to "reset" Thunar. It *may* be helpful to post a screenshot of your Thunar online.
I would consider either deleting the user "bobg" on ws1 and then recreating the user. Making sure the uid and gid of the new user are 1000. Or I would change the name and uid/gid of bobg and then make a new user bobg.
To me part of the problem/confusion comes from naming the share mount points and a system the same as the protocol.
-- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions.
° My first thought is I don't like any of those options. I would rather wait for a new release, FC-33 in September if I understand what I read.
I might be willing to "reset" Thunar but I wonder if that would be enough, the 'dead' smb appears in Nautilus also so they use the same file source.
/ will reserve my decision of what to do next, perhaps nothing then.
I appreciate your help, obviously it is costing you sleep this morning, thank you, /
On 2020-07-20 03:31, Bob Goodwin wrote:
My first thought is I don't like any of those options. I would rather wait for a new release, FC-33 in September if I understand what I read.
An upgrade won't change anything. Well, unless you wipe out everything including the user's home directory.
I might be willing to "reset" Thunar but I wonder if that would be enough, the 'dead' smb appears in Nautilus also so they use the same file source.
If you could, send me a snapshot of your desktop. Including Thunar and Nautilus too.
/ will reserve my decision of what to do next, perhaps nothing then.
I appreciate your help, obviously it is costing you sleep this morning, thank you,
The only thing that causes me it lose sleep are our cats. :-)
On 2020-07-19 16:55, Ed Greshko wrote:
An upgrade won't change anything. Well, unless you wipe out everything including the user's home directory.
° I have done the system upgrade and it works well but I prefer to start anew with each release, I have another drive and will clear it and install to it and still have this system to fall back on, cant take files from 'home' if I want, etc.
If you could, send me a snapshot of your desktop. Including Thunar and Nautilus too.
I can not recall the service used for sending images to the mailing list, but I will do that as soon as I get the details ...
On 2020-07-20 05:43, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I can not recall the service used for sending images to the mailing list, but I will do that as soon as I get the details
Well, you can always use https://imgur.com/ and then post the link. That is one way.
Feel free to send directly to me as well. I have no data limits. :-)
On 2020-07-19 17:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
Well, you can always use https://imgur.com/ and then post the link. That is one way.
Feel free to send directly to me as well. I have no data limits. :-)
° /I'm not sure I an doing this right, Nautilus: https://imgur.com/RtiyhIG.png
Thunar: https://imgur.com/ZtWPeQp.png
I did the right click and remove on the 'dead' smb. /
On 2020-07-20 07:01, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 2020-07-19 17:58, Ed Greshko wrote:
Well, you can always use https://imgur.com/ and then post the link. That is one way.
Feel free to send directly to me as well. I have no data limits. :-)
° /I'm not sure I an doing this right, Nautilus: https://imgur.com/RtiyhIG.png
That appears "correct". The header is showing "Computer-->mnt-->smb. Which is where you have the share mounted and it matches what you've shown with "ls".
Thunar: https://imgur.com/ZtWPeQp.png
Well, I don't know what this is supposed to show in relation to the share.
But, the DEVICES is as I would expect. You have the WD4TB drive and an nfs mount mounted under /media. With that, those will show up under DEVICES.
I did the right click and remove on the 'dead' smb.
But I see a "smb" under Places in the image. Are you saying that is now removed.
With Thunar you should be able to click on "File System--->mnt--->smb" to get to the share.
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