Hi, everyone, I know that this is not a use the group is setup for, but I don't know who else to ask, so forgive my rudeness, and please if you can give me some ideas. Others might benefit as well. I am not asking for specific recommendations, just some of the names you have found useful or maybe not useful, to help me and him to reduce the search from a general Google search for web hosts.
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional business currently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Regards, Les H
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:33:06AM -0700, Les Howell wrote:
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional business currently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Have you considered Red Hat's OpenShift Online?
On 05/23/2014 02:33 PM, Les Howell wrote:
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional business currently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Fairly happy with hostmonster.com, although I find their tech support a bit lazy in not carefully reading my tickets--they seem to grab the first FAQ they find that's even remotely related to my issues, and it's often not the right one.
They do provide command-line (shell) access via ssh, which is important to me.
I use bluehost, and I like it. If you click on the below link and sign up, I get a few bones. And I appreciate it greatly.
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On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Tim Evans tkevans@tkevans.com wrote:
On 05/23/2014 02:33 PM, Les Howell wrote:
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional businesscurrently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Fairly happy with hostmonster.com, although I find their tech support a bit lazy in not carefully reading my tickets--they seem to grab the first FAQ they find that's even remotely related to my issues, and it's often not the right one.
They do provide command-line (shell) access via ssh, which is important to me.
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On 05/24/2014 05:22 AM, Jeffery Kyzer wrote:
I use bluehost, and I like it. If you click on the below link and sign up, I get a few bones. And I appreciate it greatly.
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On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Tim Evans <tkevans@tkevans.com <mailto:tkevans@tkevans.com>> wrote:
On 05/23/2014 02:33 PM, Les Howell wrote: I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional business currently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Have a look at UberGlobal in Australia or the US, they have very reasonable prices for shared server, their security is superb and their tech and accounts support are exemplary. We have used them as either AussieHQ or Jumba for many years, but they are now all the same UberGlobal. My only complaint is that they won't let me use Ruby On Rails. Roger
On 05/23/2014 01:33 PM, Les Howell wrote:
Hi, everyone, I know that this is not a use the group is setup for, but I don't know who else to ask, so forgive my rudeness, and please if you can give me some ideas. Others might benefit as well. I am not asking for specific recommendations, just some of the names you have found useful or maybe not useful, to help me and him to reduce the search from a general Google search for web hosts.
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional business currently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Regards, Les H
For low to mid volume sites, site5.com.
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Les Howell hlhowell@pacbell.net wrote:
Hi, everyone, I know that this is not a use the group is setup for, but I don't know who else to ask, so forgive my rudeness, and please if you can give me some ideas. Others might benefit as well. I am not asking for specific recommendations, just some of the names you have found useful or maybe not useful, to help me and him to reduce the search from a general Google search for web hosts.
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional businesscurrently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
Regards, Les H
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I highly recommend Namecheap for both domain and hosting purposes if all you are going to do is setup something as simple as WordPress and you want to get it setup as early as possible. Their pair up with EFF quite a bit, if that matters. And they have excellent customer support. They will even do quirky things, upon your request, like setup .htaccess even though they are not managed host. You could also do everything yourself on Digital Ocean.
Great responses, thank you all. This will help us narrow down the search.
Paul, I am about to join RSSC, the Robotics Society of Southern California. I am not a great meeting or group person, as most of you know, I offer my small tidbits of knowledge once in a while, but generally you all are far above me in understanding how all this stuff works. And while I do work in Linux almost exclusively, my own work is rather esoteric to a specific and rather narrow subject, that of Automated Test Equipment, or as I like to call it million dollar testers for seventy five cent IC chips. But all that test does make things go better. Heard of Six Sigma, third order intercept, INL/DNL for converters, DSP for frequency and phase analysis, or such terms as setup and hold times? My world is deep in acronyms, and combining the troubleshooting of physical interfaces, with the issues of code speed and interface or bus speeds and architecture choices. I'm not good party company, either.
Matthew, Dave, Steven and Sudhir, thank you for the company names to check out.
I really do appreciate it.
Regards, Les H
Les Howell hlhowell@pacbell.net writes:
I have a relative who has a somewhat successful regional business currently located in Arizona, who wants to get a website set up for his product(s). He investigated GoDaddy, but didn't seem happy with their terms and conditions. I'm not entrepreneurial enough to even know where to start or what to look for. Any advice or recommendations would be helpful.
First he needs a clearer specification of what he wants: A website for his company or no more than a webshop for his products. He needs to think about which webshop he wants to use, how products are entered into a webshop, how orders placed there are going to be handled, what kind of customer support he wants to offer and how returns are to be handled.
That may involve hiring a web designer to create and to maintain his web site, hiring a photographer to take pictures of his products to be used in the webshop and needing someone to enter the products and to create sufficient documentation of the products for potential customers to review. He also needs to think about how to get people visiting his web site/shop.
As to hosting the site, I`d do that myself or, if the available bandwidth is insufficient, try to find a small local company and talk to them. 99.99% of so-called support sucks badly[1], so he`d be better off with local people he can actually talk to and get things done.
In any case, being able to move the site and shop to a different hoster would be a crucial point to consider. He probably doesn`t want to get stuck with a particular provider after having invested a good deal of work and money when he suddenly finds out that he`s unhappy in some way with what they offer.
It`s a good idea to try out different things first. He can always set up a server and try out oscommerce[2] to get an idea of what he`s getting into.
[1]: My latest example is HP being unable to replace a simple UPS battery. They said I could file a support ticket they, of course, would charge me for just to find out a price for a new one. I thought HP is a big company which surely is able to deliver spare parts for their products, yet they can`t even give you a price. I had to buy a new UPS and went with another manufacturer. That hasn`t been the first case their so-called support totally sucks, so I don`t buy HP anymore.
[2]: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OsCommerce
On 05/24/2014 06:29 AM, lee wrote:
Les Howell hlhowell@pacbell.net writes:
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[1]: My latest example is HP being unable to replace a simple UPS battery. They said I could file a support ticket they, of course, would charge me for just to find out a price for a new one. I thought HP is a big company which surely is able to deliver spare parts for their products, yet they can`t even give you a price. I had to buy a new UPS and went with another manufacturer. That hasn`t been the first case their so-called support totally sucks, so I don`t buy HP anymore.
If you had taken the UPS apart, you would have found a battery that could easily have been replaced from many distributors, and probably by BestBuy. All you need to know is the voltage, the physical size, and the connector type. All the common UPS units for home/small office are sealed lead-acid, 12 volts, and frequently 7.5 AH. AllElectronics will sell you one of these for $23.50. There are also 12 AH and 18 AH batteries for higher prices, but they are a different physical size.
Even if your unit was something bigger, it almost surely used a standard battery, or batteries, and HP is not in the battery business, so you could buy a replacement from a source that would almost surely be cheaper!
--doug
Allegedly, on or about 24 May 2014, Doug sent:
All the common UPS units for home/small office are sealed lead-acid, 12 volts, and frequently 7.5 AH. AllElectronics will sell you one of these for $23.50. There are also 12 AH and 18 AH batteries for higher prices, but they are a different physical size.
The UPS's charging circuit may be inadequate for larger capacity batteries.
Doug dmcgarrett@optonline.net writes:
On 05/24/2014 06:29 AM, lee wrote:
Les Howell hlhowell@pacbell.net writes:
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[1]: My latest example is HP being unable to replace a simple UPS battery. They said I could file a support ticket they, of course,
If you had taken the UPS apart, you would have found a battery that could easily have been replaced
Since the UPS is running 24/7, I wanted an actual replacement battery and not take any unnecessary risk of things going up in flames.
and HP is not in the battery business,
They are selling these UPSs for about 400, with batteries included. That puts them very well into the battery business.
so you could buy a replacement from a source that would almost surely be cheaper!
Batteries with the same specs are not available elsewhere; you can only get them with smaller connectors. Can you guarantee that the smaller connectors don`t melt down? And why doesn`t HP use batteries that can easily be replaced from other sources when they are incapable of delivering replacements?
Now go ahead and buy one of their servers for $10k+. After a few years one of the fans or the PSU or something else in it fails and you have to buy a new server for another 10k+ because HP is unable to deliver the required spare part which isn`t available anywhere else. Do you want to take that risk?
Batteries in UPSs are parts which last only so long before they have to be replaced. One can expect from a big manufacturer like HP that replacement parts for their products are readily available, especially for crucial products like UPSs.
One can also expect that HP knows that batteries in UPSs last only a few years and that their customers will need replacements. When they don`t know this or don`t care about their customers, or when they argue that they are not in the business, then they better close the whole company right away.
That HP fails miserably to even give you a price for a spare part for one of their products which regularly needs to be replaced and that they are completely unable to deliver the part only shows that HP utterly sucks. Why take the risk of buying anything from them?
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