New F-15 install.
How is the ethernet connection made/assigned, whatever? I made some changes via chkconfig and lost eth0 and eth1. Ethtool simply reports no devices. Is there a routine for setting up eth"x" or does it just have to happen automatically? That seems unlikely.
I keep thinking it's simpler to re-install than mess with troubleshooting some of these problems, perhaps F14 which I know works for me. It is a learning experience however, if nothing else I am learning what not to do!
Help appreciated.
Bob
On 30/05/11 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
yum install system-config-network
then create a new connection. That is if like myself, you don't use NM.
then systemctl disable NetworkManager.service systemctl enable network.service
YMMV
On 30/05/11 05:45, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/05/11 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
yum install system-config-network
then create a new connection. That is if like myself, you don't use NM.
then systemctl disable NetworkManager.service systemctl enable network.service
YMMV
Ok, I did "systemctl enable network.service" but ethtool eth0 still protests "No such device." It looks like it may be working during the boot process, all I see are "OK's" no "fail" I tried creating a new user, no joy there either. As I say it arose from messing with chkconfig and not knowing what I was going to screw up.
Yes, I've used system-config-network to set up the connection and that still looks good.
Bob
On 30/05/11 11:16, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Ok, I did "systemctl enable network.service" but ethtool eth0 still protests "No such device."
Have you got: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 content?
It looks like it may be working during the boot process, all I see are "OK's" no "fail" I tried creating a new user, no joy there either. As I say it arose from messing with chkconfig and not knowing what I was going to screw up. Yes, I've used system-config-network to set up the connection and that still looks good. Bob
chkconfig --list and post the output
I use XFCE, but the bedrock should be the same.
On 30/05/11 06:27, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/05/11 11:16, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Ok, I did "systemctl enable network.service" but ethtool eth0 still protests "No such device."Have you got: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 content?
Yes, and it appears unchanged from what it was. I can't easily copy files to this computer without my eth1 connection.
It looks like it may be working during the boot process, all I see are "OK's" no "fail" I tried creating a new user, no joy there either. As I say it arose from messing with chkconfig and not knowing what I was going to screw up. Yes, I've used system-config-network to set up the connection and that still looks good. Bobchkconfig --list and post the output
I will have to copy that to a flash drive, will do in a little while.
I use XFCE, but the bedrock should be the same.
I have used only xfce for as long as fedora has existed, Window Maker before that. I can muddle through with Gnome if need be, usually long enough to get xfce installed, never bothered with KDE. This install is from the xfce live spin.
Bob
On 30/05/11 06:49, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 30/05/11 06:27, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/05/11 11:16, Bob Goodwin wrote:
Ok, I did "systemctl enable network.service" but ethtool eth0 still protests "No such device."Have you got: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 content?
Yes, and it appears unchanged from what it was. I can't easily copy files to this computer without my eth1 connection.It looks like it may be working during the boot process,all I see are "OK's" no "fail" I tried creating a new user, no joy there either. As I say it arose from messing with chkconfig and not knowing what I was going to screw up.
Yes, I've used system-config-network to set up the connection and that still looks good. Bobchkconfig --list and post the output
I will have to copy that to a flash drive, will do in a little while.I use XFCE, but the bedrock should be the same.
I have used only xfce for as long as fedora has existed, Window Maker before that. I can muddle through with Gnome if need be, usually long enough to get xfce installed, never bothered withKDE. This install is from the xfce live spin.
Bob
Another problem shows up, the flash drive wont mount? It shows up in lsusb but is not listed under /media as it should be. I don't even know how to mount it manually. It comes up on the desktop as /media/disk1 . When I click on mount it errors "Failed to mount "disk1"
It looks like I am headed toward another re-install. Hate to burn up my allocated ISP usage with the updates and added program downloads. But I broke it myself so I can't complain!
Bob .
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:45 AM, Frank Murphy frankly3d@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/05/11 10:35, Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
yum install system-config-network
then create a new connection. That is if like myself, you don't use NM.
then systemctl disable NetworkManager.service systemctl enable network.service
There's no "network.service" so I've used chkconfig to enable the standard "network" (on a core install box without NM).
On 30/05/11 12:53, Tom H wrote: ce
systemctl enable network.service
There's no "network.service" so I've used chkconfig to enable the standard "network" (on a core install box without NM).
You can run network.service, it will be passed to chkconfig.
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Frank Murphy frankly3d@gmail.com wrote:
On 30/05/11 12:53, Tom H wrote:
systemctl enable network.service
There's no "network.service" so I've used chkconfig to enable the standard "network" (on a core install box without NM).
You can run network.service, it will be passed to chkconfig.
Thanks. It works. Checking my bash history, I see that I typed "systemctl enable network" before...
Apologies for the misinformation.
Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
How is the ethernet connection made/assigned, whatever? I made some changes via chkconfig and lost eth0 and eth1. Ethtool simply reports no devices. Is there a routine for setting up eth"x" or does it just have to happen automatically? That seems unlikely.
What does ifconfig say ? Also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (may not be 70)?
On 30/05/11 07:06, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
How is the ethernet connection made/assigned, whatever? I made some changes via chkconfig and lost eth0 and eth1. Ethtool simply reports no devices. Is there a routine for setting up eth"x" or does it just have to happen automatically? That seems unlikely.What does ifconfig say ? Also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (may not be 70)?
70-persistent-net.rules is there, I forced it to create anew last night. I could never copy all that manually without making a lot of mistakes.
ifconfig -eth1 "error - Device not found"
ifconfig -a lists data for em1,lo,and p2p1, with some ethernet HWaddr's for em1 and p2/p1.
Bob
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Bob Goodwin bobgoodwin@wildblue.net wrote:
On 30/05/11 07:06, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
How is the ethernet connection made/assigned, whatever? I made some changes via chkconfig and lost eth0 and eth1. Ethtool simply reports no devices. Is there a routine for setting up eth"x" or does it just have to happen automatically? That seems unlikely.
What does ifconfig say ? Also /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (may not be 70)?
70-persistent-net.rules is there, I forced it to create anew last night. I could never copy all that manually without making a lot of mistakes.
ifconfig -eth1 "error - Device not found"
ifconfig -a lists data for em1,lo,and p2p1, with some ethernet HWaddr's for em1 and p2/p1.
The em1/p2p1 names are biosdevname's doing:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming
By default, there isn't a 70-persistent-net.rules.
On 30/05/11 12:59, Tom H wrote:
ifconfig -eth1 "error - Device not found" ifconfig -a lists data for em1,lo,and p2p1, with some ethernet HWaddr's for em1 and p2/p1.The em1/p2p1 names are biosdevname's doing:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming
By default, there isn't a 70-persistent-net.rules.
As Tom states, eth1 if a pci card, will now be em1, unless you have more than one pci nic.
I'm guessing eth0 is on the mainboard.
On 30/05/11 08:15, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/05/11 12:59, Tom H wrote:
ifconfig -eth1 "error - Device not found" ifconfig -a lists data for em1,lo,and p2p1, with some ethernet HWaddr's for em1 and p2/p1.The em1/p2p1 names are biosdevname's doing:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ConsistentNetworkDeviceNaming
By default, there isn't a 70-persistent-net.rules.
As Tom states, eth1 if a pci card, will now be em1, unless you have more than one pci nic.
I'm guessing eth0 is on the mainboard.
Yes, eth0 is on the main board, 10/100, I added a faster card as eth1, 100/1000. I assume em1 is on the mb and p2p1 is the [100/1000] one I set in the network configuration. The other is not used for anything.
I also see that I can do systemctl status network.service which results in:
network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network) Active: failed since Monday 30 May .... CGroup: name+systemd:/system/network.service
Bob
On Monday, May 30, 2011 04:35:54 AM Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
How is the ethernet connection made/assigned, whatever? I made some changes via chkconfig and lost eth0 and eth1. Ethtool simply reports no devices. Is there a routine for setting up eth"x" or does it just have to happen automatically? That seems unlikely.
With the caveat, I am still on Fedora 14 and haven't tried to upgrade yet, I assume Fedora 15 still has needed configuration files in /etc/modprobe.d.
What is in your /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf?
My Fedora 14 /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf file contains the following: rsewill@rsewill:~ <3:1> $ more /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf alias eth0 via-rhine alias eth1 via-rhine alias eth2 forcedeth alias scsi_hostadapter libata alias scsi_hostadapter1 sata_nv alias scsi_hostadapter2 pata_amd alias scsi_hostadapter3 usb-storage options snd cards_limit=8 alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel options snd-hda-intel index=0 alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio options snd-usb-audio index=7
On Fedora 14 this was how I associated which ethernet driver for which device. I assume it's still the same way on Fedora 15.
Another person is having sound problems, and I remember there is sound stuff in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf too.
I am wondering if Fedora 15 did things to the modprobe files -or- if the format of the modprobe files has changed -or- if the modprobe files have been replaced by something else.
I will try to upgrade to Fedora 15, in time. At this moment, I am hesitant. I have an old system, with limited RAM. I need to have good file backups. I am concerned my attempt to upgrade to Fedora 15 may fail.
On 30/05/11 13:19, Rick Sewill wrote: <snip>
I will try to upgrade to Fedora 15, in time. At this moment, I am hesitant. I have an old system, with limited RAM. I need to have good file backups. I am concerned my attempt to upgrade to Fedora 15 may fail.
If upgrading F15 should preserve the ethX stuff, but if a fresh install pci slots (nic) will be emX
On Monday, May 30, 2011 07:22:45 AM Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/05/11 13:19, Rick Sewill wrote:
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I will try to upgrade to Fedora 15, in time. At this moment, I am hesitant. I have an old system, with limited RAM. I need to have good file backups. I am concerned my attempt to upgrade to Fedora 15 may fail.
If upgrading F15 should preserve the ethX stuff, but if a fresh install pci slots (nic) will be emX
They changed the names? Thank you for the heads up. I will need to switch to the new names, in time, then.
This was pre-branched F15.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-November/146400.html
Frank Murphy writes:
On 30/05/11 13:19, Rick Sewill wrote:
<snip> > > I will try to upgrade to Fedora 15, in time. At this moment, I am hesitant. > I have an old system, with limited RAM. I need to have good file backups. > I am concerned my attempt to upgrade to Fedora 15 may fail. >
If upgrading F15 should preserve the ethX stuff, but if a fresh install pci slots (nic) will be emX
Watch out if you've got wireless. After upgrading my laptop, NetworkManager failed to start and dumped a backtrace into /var/log/messages. I had to nuke my existing ifcfg-auto_SSID to make it start again (and relogin to my APs). NetworkManager recreated the ifcfg-auto_SSID, naturally with different stuff in there.
On 30/05/11 08:22, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 30/05/11 13:19, Rick Sewill wrote:
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After re-installing F-15 and losing all my earlier configuration work I still had no ethernet connection! The reason was that, for reasons I don't recall, I had enabled the main board ethernet port in the BIOS set-up. I disabled that and the gigabit NIC I normally use worked again.
I've spent this afternoon installing applications and configuring things as I want them and so far everything works better than before. I now get a smooth text boot with no pauses. Once I finish setting up that computer I will install F15 on this one. I always use XFCE so the Gnome changes don't affect me.
Thanks for the help.
Bob
On 30/05/11 08:19, Rick Sewill wrote:
On Monday, May 30, 2011 04:35:54 AM Bob Goodwin wrote:
New F-15 install.
How is the ethernet connection made/assigned, whatever? I made some changes via chkconfig and lost eth0 and eth1. Ethtool simply reports no devices. Is there a routine for setting up eth"x" or does it just have to happen automatically? That seems unlikely.With the caveat, I am still on Fedora 14 and haven't tried to upgrade yet, I assume Fedora 15 still has needed configuration files in /etc/modprobe.d.
What is in your /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf?
I have no "/etc/modprobe.d/local.conf." There is a blacklist.conf, dist-alsa.conf, dist-oss.conf, dist.conf, and openfwwf.conf.
Do I need one? What to do ...
To add to the confusion my internet connection went out requiring the receiver/modem to be reset downstairs. Hope it's Wildblue and not my equipment! Has happened several times in the last few days.
Bob
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