I have noticed that when I am typing, the letters v,b,f,g,r,t,4,5 do not always type, making it very difficult to write emails and enter commands.The curious thing, as I just ascertained a moment ago, is that the missing characters all line up diagonally on the keyboard.I am using the pc105 character german keyboard setting with all dead keys, and have the system set to use utf-8, which is the default.I have also enabled the xkbd compose key option on the useless key to the left of the right ctrl key.This has only occurred 2 or 3 times in the last 2 weeks.Could there be some problem with keysim mappings or something?I thought that, since the keys all line up, that there could be a problem with the keyboard, but someone else reported the problem on fedoraforum about 2 weeks ago.kwhiskerz{ _________________________________________________________________ Get connected - Use your Hotmail address to sign into Windows Live Messenger now. http://get.live.com/messenger/overview
Around 07:42pm on Thursday, February 01, 2007 (UK time), kwhiskerz kwhiskerz scrawled:
I have noticed that when I am typing, the letters v,b,f,g,r,t,4,5 do not always type, making it very difficult to write emails and enter commands.The curious thing, as I just ascertained a moment ago, is that the missing characters all line up diagonally on the keyboard.I am using the pc105 character german keyboard setting with all dead keys, and have the system set to use utf-8, which is the default.I have also enabled the xkbd compose key option on the useless key to the left of the right ctrl key.This has only occurred 2 or 3 times in the last 2 weeks.Could there be some problem with keysim mappings or something?I thought that, since the keys all line up, that there could be a problem with the keyboard, but someone else reported the problem on fedoraforum about 2 weeks ago.kwhiskerz{
That one worked.
I haven't had the keyboard problem myself, however.
Steve
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:42 -0700, kwhiskerz kwhiskerz wrote:
I have noticed that when I am typing, the letters v,b,f,g,r,t,4,5 do not always type, making it very difficult to write emails and enter commands.
Not discounting the possiblity of software issues, I would be suspicious of the keyboard, particularly if you attribute a problem to a group of keys, like that. Some are far worse than others.
On February 1, 2007, Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:42 -0700, kwhiskerz kwhiskerz wrote:
I have noticed that when I am typing, the letters v,b,f,g,r,t,4,5 do not always type, making it very difficult to write emails and enter commands.
Not discounting the possiblity of software issues, I would be suspicious of the keyboard, particularly if you attribute a problem to a group of keys, like that. Some are far worse than others.
I am fearing that. It is a German keyboard, which would be difficult to get on this side of the 'Teich' (Pond). The curious thing is that a guy on fedoraforum mentioned the same problem about 2 weeks ago.
From: "kwhiskerz kwhiskerz" kwhiskerz@hotmail.com
I have noticed that when I am typing, the letters v,b,f,g,r,t,4,5 do not always type, making it very difficult to write emails and enter commands.The curious thing, as I just ascertained a moment ago, is that the missing characters all line up diagonally on the keyboard.I am using the pc105 character german keyboard setting with all dead keys, and have the system set to use utf-8, which is the default.I have also enabled the xkbd compose key option on the useless key to the left of the right ctrl key.This has only occurred 2 or 3 times in the last 2 weeks.Could there be some problem with keysim mappings or something?I thought that, since the keys all line up, that there could be a problem with the keyboard, but someone else reported the problem on fedoraforum about 2 weeks ago.kwhiskerz{
Have you tried an alternate keyboard? That sounds like one of the keyboard decode lines is broken.
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On February 1, 2007, Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 12:42 -0700, kwhiskerz kwhiskerz wrote:
I have noticed that when I am typing, the letters v,b,f,g,r,t,4,5 do not always type, making it very difficult to write emails and enter commands.
Not discounting the possiblity of software issues, I would be suspicious of the keyboard, particularly if you attribute a problem to a group of keys, like that. Some are far worse than others.
I am fearing that. It is a German keyboard, which would be difficult to get on this side of the 'Teich' (Pond). The curious thing is that a guy on fedoraforum mentioned the same problem about 2 weeks ago.
Hook up any old alternative and see if that set of characters works or not. If it works and the other keyboard doesn't - maybe NewEgg or one of its competitors could provide a German keyboard. Shipping might take a long time or be expensive, though.
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On February 1, 2007, jdow wrote:
Hook up any old alternative and see if that set of characters works or not. If it works and the other keyboard doesn't - maybe NewEgg or one of its competitors could provide a German keyboard. Shipping might take a long time or be expensive, though.
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That's a great suggestion. I hadn't thought of it, but I would have to buy a new keyboard to do it, as I don't have ready access to another right now. The curious ting, though, was that it only seems to happen about once a week, for about 3-5 minutes, and then all is okay. I'd have to wait quite a while
I may have to resort to this, if nothing else works or it gets worse.
Was talking to a local shop and they can indeed get foreign keyboards, but I don't now how fast.
I have not being able to type äüßöáà and the like. There is the xkbd compose key as an option, but the extra keys on a 105-key keyboard are so nice.
Wonder why they don't just make all standard keyboards Western European compatible, instead of all these different numbers of keys?
From: "kwhiskers{" kuiskers@telus.net
On February 1, 2007, jdow wrote:
Hook up any old alternative and see if that set of characters works or not. If it works and the other keyboard doesn't - maybe NewEgg or one of its competitors could provide a German keyboard. Shipping might take a long time or be expensive, though.
{^_^}
That's a great suggestion. I hadn't thought of it, but I would have to buy a new keyboard to do it, as I don't have ready access to another right now. The curious ting, though, was that it only seems to happen about once a week, for about 3-5 minutes, and then all is okay. I'd have to wait quite a while
I may have to resort to this, if nothing else works or it gets worse.
Was talking to a local shop and they can indeed get foreign keyboards, but I don't now how fast.
I have not being able to type äüßöáà and the like. There is the xkbd compose key as an option, but the extra keys on a 105-key keyboard are so nice.
Wonder why they don't just make all standard keyboards Western European compatible, instead of all these different numbers of keys?
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Your skateboard is bigger than mine?
Unfortunately the layouts that I like end up looking like they want to have wheels mounted on them for use as skateboards. I have to protect them from teenagers. (Fortunately, that is no big problem.)
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On February 2, 2007, jdow wrote:
Unfortunately the layouts that I like end up looking like they want to have wheels mounted on them for use as skateboards. I have to protect them from teenagers. (Fortunately, that is no big problem.)
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What I'd really like is at least the pc105 international keyboard, but the keys arranged alphabetically. Having the letters all mixed up has taken me 30 years to get to 40 words a minute!
I think the days and usefulness of the old don't look while you type 10-finger typing are passé, since with computers you always have to shift your hands from the mouse to the keyboard and back again, and you're not copying from a text, but usually writing what's in your head, so it doesn't come at any set speed and there is generally a great need to back up, retype, revise, etc, etc.
On February 1, 2007, Claude Jones wrote:
KMail has some pretty powerful tools for configuring and managing multiple email accounts, and it takes some learning. Let's assume you've created a filter in Kmail to send all your fedora-list traffic into a subfolder. Let's assume you've also set up a number of identities (I set up a separate identity for each email account, and configure the sigs differently for example); you could then right click on that folder, and in the properties for that folder, you could choose which identity would be used for all replies to mail originating from that folder. Now, that's just scratching the surface...
I'm just beginning to experiment with some of these ideas... about having separate directories and using filters, etc. It is way cool and really works, too! I made subfolders under inbox for each identity and defined filters. Will see in the next few days how this turns out.
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 01:32 -0700, kwhiskers{ wrote:
What I'd really like is at least the pc105 international keyboard, but the keys arranged alphabetically. Having the letters all mixed up has taken me 30 years to get to 40 words a minute!
Take a typing class, you'll learn it much quicker than that. ;-) You can get alphabetically arranged keyboards, but you'd probably have to put up with one decorated in children's colours.
I think the days and usefulness of the old don't look while you type 10-finger typing are passé, since with computers you always have to shift your hands from the mouse to the keyboard and back again, and you're not copying from a text, but usually writing what's in your head, so it doesn't come at any set speed and there is generally a great need to back up, retype, revise, etc, etc.
I manage, not too badly, alternating from mouse to keyboard. The keys additional to a typewriter throw me, though. The F keys are too far away for touch typing, the insert, delete, home, end, page up/down keys are in different spots on different keyboards (I keep hitting print screen on some of them). And I think I'd prefer a detached numberpad. The main keyboard would be balanced that way, and I could still use a number pad for all that number crunching that's more convenient than the number row about quertyuiop.
On February 2, 2007, Tim wrote:
Take a typing class, you'll learn it much quicker than that. ;-) You can get alphabetically arranged keyboards, but you'd probably have to put up with one decorated in children's colours.
I could handle that! But I'd have to make a character map from scratch, I think, mapping the keysyms to the codes generated by the keypress, or something. I did one way back in redhat 5 days, for my laptop, which I bought in north america, so that I could write in european languages without headaches. It was a lot of work and I am not sure exactly how i did it anymore. I think the system has changed a bit since then, anyway.
I manage, not too badly, alternating from mouse to keyboard. The keys additional to a typewriter throw me, though. The F keys are too far away for touch typing, the insert, delete, home, end, page up/down keys are in different spots on different keyboards (I keep hitting print screen on some of them).
That used to get me, too. You better watch it, that you don't hit that sysrq key by mistake ;-) or your system will power down in an instant.
Tim:
Take a typing class, you'll learn it much quicker than that. ;-) You can get alphabetically arranged keyboards, but you'd probably have to put up with one decorated in children's colours.
kwhiskers{:
I could handle that! But I'd have to make a character map from scratch, I think, mapping the keysyms to the codes generated by the keypress, or something.
That'd be what you'd do to re-arrange an existing keyboard. These ones, though, use a standard keymap. The electronics in the keyboard are re-arranged to suit the re-arrangment of the key positions.
Normally, a key outputs a position code for a key (e.g. it's the first on the left), and it doesn't matter what that key actually is, other than there being expected keys in expected places. Those special keyboards work the other way around, producing expected scan codes for specific letters.
I manage, not too badly, alternating from mouse to keyboard. The keys additional to a typewriter throw me, though. The F keys are too far away for touch typing, the insert, delete, home, end, page up/down keys are in different spots on different keyboards (I keep hitting print screen on some of them).
That used to get me, too. You better watch it, that you don't hit that sysrq key by mistake ;-) or your system will power down in an instant.
;-) It amuses me that the print screen / SysRq key is used backwards to the legend printed on them. The print screen legend indicates that you should be pressing shift with the key for that function.
Likewise for the pause/break key - the only thing I've seen pay attention to that key is BIOS screen messages during boot (pausing when you press the pause/break key).
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