WINDOWMAKER-FLUXBOX

[nipson anomhmata]

I installed windomaker and fluxbox with apt-get, but
gdm does not show them!I add them in gdm's
configuration file but the problem still exists! Any
idea guys? Thanks!!!

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[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:31:02 -0800 (PST), nipson anomhmata wrote:
> I installed windomaker and fluxbox with apt-get, but
> gdm does not show them!I add them in gdm's
> configuration file but the problem still exists! Any
> idea guys? Thanks!!!

Packages from where?

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[jason pratt]

On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 21:31, nipson anomhmata wrote:
> I installed windomaker and fluxbox with apt-get, but
> gdm does not show them!I add them in gdm's
> configuration file but the problem still exists! Any
> idea guys? Thanks!!!

what apt repository did you get those from? I'd like to know.. :)

[Kevin B]

On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 09:07, jason pratt wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 21:31, nipson anomhmata wrote:
> > I installed windomaker and fluxbox with apt-get, but
> > gdm does not show them!I add them in gdm's
> > configuration file but the problem still exists! Any
> > idea guys? Thanks!!!
>
> what apt repository did you get those from? I'd like to know.. :)

Hi

Windowmaker is from Dag's repo.  Here's my /etc/apt/sources.list
[comments removed] which is the default when you install apt-get from
freshrpms.net.

[kevin@www2 kevin]$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# Fedora Core 1
rpm     http://ayo.freshrpms.net fedora/linux/1/i386 core updates
# ATrpms for Fedora Core 1
rpm     http://apt.physik.fu-berlin.de fedora/1/en/i386 at-testing
# FreshRPMS for Fedora Core 1
rpm      http://ayo.freshrpms.net fedora/linux/1/i386 freshrpms
# NewRPMS for Fedora Core 1
rpm     http://newrpms.sunsite.dk/apt/ redhat/en/i386/fc1 newrpms
# Dag Wieers' rpms for Fedora Core 1
rpm     http://apt.sw.be redhat/fc1/en/i386 dag
#JPackage for Fedora Core 1
rpm     ftp://jpackage.hmdc.harvard.edu/JPackage 1.5/generic free
rpm     ftp://jpackage.hmdc.harvard.edu/JPackage 1.5/fedora-1 free
# Planet CCRMA for Fedora Core 1
rpm     http://www-ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/apt fedora/1/i386
planetcore planetccrma

Kevin

[jason pratt]

On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 12:21, Kevin Brouelette wrote:
> Hi
>
> Windowmaker is from Dag's repo.  Here's my /etc/apt/sources.list
> [comments removed] which is the default when you install apt-get from
> freshrpms.net.

Great thanks! ok now where his question was headed.. how do I add this
to the optional desktop/windowmanagers in gdm? i'd like to add both of
these if it's possible.

thanks.

[Paul Morgan]

On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 20:31, nipson anomhmata wrote:
> I installed windomaker and fluxbox with apt-get, but
> gdm does not show them!I add them in gdm's
> configuration file but the problem still exists! Any
> idea guys? Thanks!!!

This worked for me (from http://www.fluxbox.org/docs/en/faq.php#fedora):

<quote>
The fedora distribution uses a different setup again. Instead of the
dm-specific locations, it requires session files to be in
/etc/X11/dm/Sessions.

So, to get Fluxbox into its session menu, create the file:
/etc/X11/dm/Sessions/fluxbox with contents:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Fluxbox
Type=Application
Icon=
Exec=fluxbox
You may need to put the full path to fluxbox in the Exec line if it is
in a non-standard location.

</quote>

[James Jones]

Paul Morgan wrote:
> This worked for me (from http://www.fluxbox.org/docs/en/faq.php#fedora):
>
> <quote>
> The fedora distribution uses a different setup again. Instead of the
> dm-specific locations, it requires session files to be in
> /etc/X11/dm/Sessions.
>
> So, to get Fluxbox into its session menu, create the file:
> /etc/X11/dm/Sessions/fluxbox with contents:
>
> [Desktop Entry]
> Encoding=UTF-8
> Name=Fluxbox
> Type=Application
> Icon=
> Exec=fluxbox
> You may need to put the full path to fluxbox in the Exec line if it is
> in a non-standard location.
>
> </quote>

I tried that. (Actually, since the files were all named <manager>.desktop, I
named it fluxbox.desktop.) No luck; I'd choose a fluxbox session, log 
in, and
just get a blank blue screen with a mouse cursor (that did move around). 
I had
to ctrl-alt-bs out of X, after which I would get the nVidia driver 
splash screen
followed by the computer going into some sort of hibernation mode, 
taking some
keypressing to get out of and back to the graphical login.

I noticed the *.desktop files had the execute bits set, and set them on 
fluxbox.desktop;
no change. I noticed that /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions had a Fluxbox file in 
it, but noticed
that, unlike the other files therein, it just exec'd /usr/bin/fluxbox 
rather than doing

exec /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession fluxbox

analogously to the GNOME and KDE files in the same directory, so I made 
that change.
No difference.

Finally, I figured I should try the directions exactly as written, and 
changed the
name of the added file from fluxbox.desktop to just plain fluxbox. Then 
the login no
longer displayed fluxbox as a choice for sessions.

Any suggestions about what to do to let me use fluxbox would be greatly 
appreciated;
for me personally, it's just an experiment, but for the person who's 
getting the
200 MHz Pentium Pro box I've had sitting around and put Fedora Core on, 
having
access to a lower-overhead window manager is very much worthwhile.

James Jones

[David Muse]

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 14:48:43 -0600
James Jones  wrote:
> Paul Morgan wrote:
> > This worked for me (from http://www.fluxbox.org/docs/en/faq.php#fedora):
> >
> > <quote>
> > The fedora distribution uses a different setup again. Instead of the
> > dm-specific locations, it requires session files to be in
> > /etc/X11/dm/Sessions.
> >
> > So, to get Fluxbox into its session menu, create the file:
> > /etc/X11/dm/Sessions/fluxbox with contents:
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Encoding=UTF-8
> > Name=Fluxbox
> > Type=Application
> > Icon=
> > Exec=fluxbox
> > You may need to put the full path to fluxbox in the Exec line if it is
> > in a non-standard location.
> >
> > </quote>
>
> I tried that. (Actually, since the files were all named <manager>.desktop, I
> named it fluxbox.desktop.) No luck; I'd choose a fluxbox session, log 
> in, and
> just get a blank blue screen with a mouse cursor (that did move around). 
> I had
> to ctrl-alt-bs out of X, after which I would get the nVidia driver 
> splash screen
> followed by the computer going into some sort of hibernation mode, 
> taking some
> keypressing to get out of and back to the graphical login.
>
> I noticed the *.desktop files had the execute bits set, and set them on 
> fluxbox.desktop;
> no change. I noticed that /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions had a Fluxbox file in 
> it, but noticed
> that, unlike the other files therein, it just exec'd /usr/bin/fluxbox 
> rather than doing
>
> exec /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession fluxbox
>
> analogously to the GNOME and KDE files in the same directory, so I made 
> that change.
> No difference.
>
> Finally, I figured I should try the directions exactly as written, and 
> changed the
> name of the added file from fluxbox.desktop to just plain fluxbox. Then 
> the login no
> longer displayed fluxbox as a choice for sessions.
>
> Any suggestions about what to do to let me use fluxbox would be greatly 
> appreciated;
> for me personally, it's just an experiment, but for the person who's 
> getting the
> 200 MHz Pentium Pro box I've had sitting around and put Fedora Core on, 
> having
> access to a lower-overhead window manager is very much worthwhile.
> James Jones

I use fluxbox as my window manager on Fedora Core 1.

Fluxbox has a problem with the locale-related environment variables
on Fedora Core 1.  Actually the problem is font-related.  It's complicated...
When you run fluxbox and just got a blue screen, if you wait a while (quite
a while) it will ultimately start up.  The solution is to set LC_ALL=C
prior to starting up fluxbox.

Create a .xsession file with the following contents:

export LC_ALL=C
    startfluxbox

(make sure startfluxbox is in your path)

Alternatively, if you're building fluxbox from source, you can
apply the following patch so you don't have to do the 
    export LC_ALL=C

diff --unified --recursive --exclude=CVS fluxbox-0.9.6/src/main.cc fluxbox-0.9.6-patched/src/main.cc
--- fluxbox-0.9.6/src/main.cc   2003-10-02 12:14:41.000000000 -0400
+++ fluxbox-0.9.6-patched/src/main.cc   2003-12-05 11:18:56.000000000 -0500
@@ -134,6 +134,8 @@
 }

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
+
+    setenv("LC_ALL","C",1);

std::string session_display = "";
     std::string rc_file;

Save the patch as lcall.patch in the same directory as the fluxbox-0.9.6
directory.  Apply the patch by running patch -p1 < ../lcall.patch from inside
the fluxbox-0.9.6 directory.

On the GDM login screen, select Session -> default
then log in.

If you want to use fluxbox as your gnome window manager,
add the following line to the end of your ~/.fluxbox/startup
file:

exec gnome-session

My ~/.fluxbox/startup file contains only the following lines:

fluxbox &
    exec gnome-sessioncd

You also need to copy /usr/share/gnome/default.session to
~/.gnome2/session and remove these lines:

1,id=default1
    1,Priority=10
    1,RestartCommand=gnome-wm --default-wm gnome-wm --sm-client-id default1
    2,id=default2
    2,Priority=40

This will prevent metacity from even trying to start.

Theoretically, all you should have to do is set
WINDOW_MANAGER=fluxbox in your .bashrc.  That should
cause gnome-wm to use fluxbox intead of metacity.  But,
the locale problem and the fact that fluxbox interacts strangely
with gnome-session make that solution unworkable.

If you want to use Fluxbox along with gnome and you like the Bluecurve
theme,  I made a FluxBluecurve style for fluxbox that approximates it.
Search for it at themes.freshmeat.net It includes another patch that makes
fluxbox tile pixmaps correctly.

Good luck.

David Muse
[e-mail]

[James Jones]

David Muse wrote:
> I use fluxbox as my window manager on Fedora Core 1.
>
> Fluxbox has a problem with the locale-related environment variables
> on Fedora Core 1.  Actually the problem is font-related.  It's complicated...
> When you run fluxbox and just got a blue screen, if you wait a while (quite
> a while) it will ultimately start up.  The solution is to set LC_ALL=C
> prior to starting up fluxbox.
>
> Create a .xsession file with the following contents:
>
> export LC_ALL=C
>    startfluxbox
>
> (make sure startfluxbox is in your path)

Hmmm. "rpm -ql fluxbox | grep startfluxbox" turns up nothing. "rpm -q 
fluxbox"
says I have fluxbox-0.1.14-0.fdr.6.1. Do I have the correct RPM?

http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/fluxbox/startfluxbox.html shows what
appears to be the contents of startfluxbox, and that matches what's in
/usr/X11R6/bin/startfluxbox on the computer I have running Mandrake, so I'll
create that in that place and see how far I can get.

Thanks very much for the advice. I will followup with the results I get.

James

[James Jones]

James Jones wrote:
> Thanks very much for the advice. I will followup with the results I get.

OK. I created the startfluxbox script, changing the path to fluxbox 
itself to fit
where the Fedora RPM puts it, and also adding /usr/share/fluxbox/startup
which wasn't there but which startfluxbox references. I put the "export 
LC_ALL=C"
in /usr/share/fluxbox/startup.

That done, and with a .xsession of

startfluxbox

I can run fluxbox fine by asking for a default session (it takes maybe 
five or six
seconds to start up). Asking for a fluxbox session explicitly bypasses 
startfluxbox,
I presume, and thus /usr/share/fluxbox/startup, and hence takes a long time
(I have yet to wait long enough to say how long it is). I'll experiment 
with the
fluxbox.desktop file, maybe making it

Exec=startfluxbox

to see whether that works.

James

[David Muse]

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 18:10:19 -0600
James Jones  wrote:
> David Muse wrote:
> > I use fluxbox as my window manager on Fedora Core 1.
> >
> > Fluxbox has a problem with the locale-related environment variables
> > on Fedora Core 1.  Actually the problem is font-related.  It's complicated...
> > When you run fluxbox and just got a blue screen, if you wait a while (quite
> > a while) it will ultimately start up.  The solution is to set LC_ALL=C
> > prior to starting up fluxbox.
> >
> > Create a .xsession file with the following contents:
> >
> > export LC_ALL=C
> >    startfluxbox
> >
> > (make sure startfluxbox is in your path)
>
> Hmmm. "rpm -ql fluxbox | grep startfluxbox" turns up nothing. "rpm -q 
> fluxbox"
> says I have fluxbox-0.1.14-0.fdr.6.1. Do I have the correct RPM?

Ahh, sorry, I use fluxbox-0.9.6 which I compile from source.  Fluxbox 0.1.14
doesn't have a startfluxbox script but 0.9.6 does.  Also, the patches and
FluxBluecurve theme are for 0.9.6

Sorry for the confusion.

Dave

[David Muse]

On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 21:37:15 -0600
James Jones  wrote:
> James Jones wrote:
> > Thanks very much for the advice. I will followup with the results I get.
>
> OK. I created the startfluxbox script, changing the path to fluxbox 
> itself to fit
> where the Fedora RPM puts it, and also adding /usr/share/fluxbox/startup
> which wasn't there but which startfluxbox references. I put the "export 
> LC_ALL=C"
> in /usr/share/fluxbox/startup.
>
> That done, and with a .xsession of
> startfluxbox
>
> I can run fluxbox fine by asking for a default session (it takes maybe 
> five or six
> seconds to start up). Asking for a fluxbox session explicitly bypasses 
> startfluxbox,
> I presume, and thus /usr/share/fluxbox/startup, and hence takes a long time
> (I have yet to wait long enough to say how long it is). I'll experiment 
> with the
> fluxbox.desktop file, maybe making it
> Exec=startfluxbox
>
> to see whether that works.
> James

I suspect that it will.  Although it seems like I tried putting "export LC_ALL=C"
my startup file and it didn't work.  I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't though
so maybe I'm just not remembering it right :)

Dave