I got this yummed and then tried it. In a root terminal I wrote:
# mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fc4
and it worked. I went to /fc4 and there was my windows file system.
This would sure make getting things off that Windows file system easy :-)
Karl
On 7/20/07, Karl Larsen k5di@zianet.com wrote:
I got this yummed and then tried it. In a root terminal I wrote:# mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fc4
and it worked. I went to /fc4 and there was my windows file system.
This would sure make getting things off that Windows file system easy :-)
Karl
NTFS-3G uses the 'ntfs-3g' fs type for mounting. The 'ntfs' fs type is for the default NTFS driver included in the Linux kernel.
-Mauriat
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Hi Mauriat,
Mauriat M wrote:
NTFS-3G uses the 'ntfs-3g' fs type for mounting. The 'ntfs' fs type is for the default NTFS driver included in the Linux kernel.
-Mauriat
I am curious as to what is the inherent difference between the two? I have a mount statement in my fstab that reads:
/dev/sda2 /media/Windows ntfs defaults 0 0
and a 'mount -l' paints the following about the same partition:
/dev/sda2 on /media/Windows type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
Now, when I connect an external hard drive that has a NTFS partition, I see the following in my messages:
ntfs-3g[15743]: Mounted /dev/sdb1 (Read-Write, label "External NTFS", NTFS 3.1)
and doing a mount -l gives the following for this drive:
/dev/sdb1 on /media/External NTFS type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)
from the looks of it, stating ntfs should also do fine. Or I am grossly mistaken? I am assuming that the presence of the ntfs3g package is altering the NTFS provider implementation thus explaining the above behavior.
If that is the case, then should we still suggest that users specify the type to be ntfs-3g?
thanks, Rogue
Rogue wrote:
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Hi Mauriat,
Mauriat M wrote:
NTFS-3G uses the 'ntfs-3g' fs type for mounting. The 'ntfs' fs type is for the default NTFS driver included in the Linux kernel.
-Mauriat
I am curious as to what is the inherent difference between the two?
ntfs is in-kernel implementation while ntfs-3g is a better (more robust, safe to write) user space implementation that runs over fuse by the same developers. It might get merged into the kernel at some point in the future to replace the in-kernel implementation.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Rogue wrote:
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Hi Mauriat,
Mauriat M wrote:
NTFS-3G uses the 'ntfs-3g' fs type for mounting. The 'ntfs' fs type is for the default NTFS driver included in the Linux kernel.
-Mauriat
I am curious as to what is the inherent difference between the two?
ntfs is in-kernel implementation while ntfs-3g is a better (more robust, safe to write) user space implementation that runs over fuse by the same developers. It might get merged into the kernel at some point in the future to replace the in-kernel implementation.
Rahul
Well it works fine when mount -t ntfs is used but in my /etc/fstab the line /dev/sda1 /win ntfs noauto,user 0 0 does not work. Not at all sure why.
Karl
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 15:19 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
Well it works fine when mount -t ntfs is used but in my /etc/fstab the line /dev/sda1 /win ntfs noauto,user 0 0 does not work. Not at all sure why.
Define "not works". Did you want it mounted always, or on demand?
The "noauto" option will prevent it being automatically mounted when you bootup, you'll have to manually mount it, post boot. Take out "noauto" and it'll always be there.
Tim wrote:
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 15:19 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
Well it works fine when mount -t ntfs is used but in my /etc/fstab the line /dev/sda1 /win ntfs noauto,user 0 0 does not work. Not at all sure why.
Define "not works".
Sorry, by not works is this. A user can write in a terminal this: $ mount /win and it will complete but when you look at /win there is nothing there. If you then as root do mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /win it does work.
The line in fstab works but it doesn't complete the job for some reason.
Karl
Did you want it mounted always, or on demand?
The "noauto" option will prevent it being automatically mounted when you bootup, you'll have to manually mount it, post boot. Take out "noauto" and it'll always be there.
Karl Larsen k5di@zianet.com writes:
Sorry, by not works is this. A user can write in a terminal this: $ mount /win and it will complete but when you look at /win there is nothing there. If you then as root do mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /win it does work.
Make sure that the user trying to mount the partition is in the 'fuse' group. FUSE on Fedora is setup to only allow members of the 'fuse' group to mount FUSE filesystems.
Regards Ingemar
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 14:10 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
I got this yummed and then tried it. In a root terminal I wrote:
# mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fc4
and it worked. I went to /fc4 and there was my windows file system.
This would sure make getting things off that Windows file system easy :-)
Karl
It certainly would but is ntfs-3g available in the Live CD. -- ======================================================================= Information Center, n.: A room staffed by professional computer people whose job it is to tell you why you cannot have the information you require. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 14:10 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
I got this yummed and then tried it. In a root terminal I wrote:
# mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fc4
and it worked. I went to /fc4 and there was my windows file system.
This would sure make getting things off that Windows file system easy :-)
Karl
It certainly would but is ntfs-3g available in the Live CD.
If you mean, Fedora 7 Live images, it is and is in the default package set in all Fedora spins.
Rahul
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 14:10 -0600, Karl Larsen wrote:
I got this yummed and then tried it. In a root terminal I wrote:
# mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /fc4
and it worked. I went to /fc4 and there was my windows file system.
This would sure make getting things off that Windows file system easy :-)
Karl
It certainly would but is ntfs-3g available in the Live CD.
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I looked at all the binary files in Helix and there are a lot but none called ntfs-3g. So maybe not.
Karl
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